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SeanyBaggs123

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Good Morning,

I hope I'm being paranoid for nothing, but my instincts tell me otherwise.

I brought home 2 oscelaris clowns, 1 lawnmower blenny, 1 frogspawn, and 1 green star polyp frag yesterday.

I acclimated the fish and added them to the display tank, and glued the corals down to some live rock.

The clowns haven't settled yet and are still scanning the tank. The blenny is seemingly normal, grazing the rock for food, but also taking the occasional swim to the top and resting on the magfloat or heater.

This morning when I woke up, the clowns look different to me. The gills look dark (and admittedly might have yesterday, I was more elated with the corals), and they have a few white spots. The sump I inhereted does not have a bubble trap and I have far more microbubbles than most. So, I'm not sure if this is the cause, or if I'm dealing with disease.

In addition, I noticed small moving critters on the glass. Thin, tubular, tiny white worms that I couldn't get a picture of. Also, what I think are amphipods (picture attached).

Parameters:
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 30ppm (I know they're high)
ph: 8ish
dkh: 8

@stella1979 @Jesterrace @Lchi87 @saltwater60

Any help is appreciated!
 

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The white spots could be ich... do they look like grains of salt?
 
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Parameters:
Ammonia: 0ppm
Nitrite: 0ppm
Nitrate: 30ppm (I know they're high)
ph: 8ish
dkh: 8

Welp. He was laying in the sand this morning, more spots, white stringy poop... So rather than come home from work to a dead fish I tried the only thing I could.... Freshwater bath. Immediately following the freshwater bath (4 minutes 30 seconds), I put him back in the DT and he couldn't swim upright. So, I euthanized him. Pictures are attached for a better shot of the gills.

The other clown is still in there. He has slight discoloration in his face, and a small white mark near the back side of one gill. I bought them, the lawn mower blenny, and some corals, on sunday. I water changed the day before. Everyone, including the shrimp, snails, blenny, and corals are doing great. The clowns are the only ones showing any symptoms... which leads me to believe I bought them sick :(

Lesson Learned. Have Prazi Pro, ich-x, and some QT tank supplies on the way, unless you guys have any other suggestions...
 

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Lchi87 said:
The white spots could be ich... do they look like grains of salt?
It was really hard to tell with the microbubbles. I've experienced and successfully treated freshwater ich, but I couldn't be certain. However, he definitely did have more of them this morning. I had a tough time distinguishing between ich, velvet, and brooklynella in clowns
 

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Clowns usually get Brooklynella rather then marine ich ..Tangs get ich !
The bug in first pic is a pod , they are a good thing .
 

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SeanyBaggs123 said:
It was really hard to tell with the microbubbles. I've experienced and successfully treated freshwater ich, but I couldn't be certain. However, he definitely did have more of them this morning. I had a tough time distinguishing between ich, velvet, and brooklynella in clowns
I hear ya on not being able to tell! My female clown had something that looked like a mix of all three. Formalin based treatment took care of it but she spent 11 weeks in QT :/
 
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Lchi87 said:
I hear ya on not being able to tell! My female clown had something that looked like a mix of all three. Formalin based treatment took care of it but she spent 11 weeks in QT :/
So far the remaining blenny and clown that were added at the same time look good and are acting normal. The clown hasn't picked a spot to host yet, but otherwise looks good.

Formalin dip/prazipro QT was going to be my course of action, but now I'm not sure if I should do that or let things play out in the tank.

For all I know it was a deformity, injury, or stress.....:banghead:
 

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One of the things that has saved me lots of hassle over the last few years is to never bring home fish straight in from a new shipment at the LFS. I usually only get the ones that have been at my LFS for a couple of weeks or more as many of these issues weed themselves out. Definitely not foolproof but it has greatly increased my odds of success. Since using this method I think I have lost 1 fish out 7 additions over the last couple of years and the one I lost was an impulse buy (so I didn't completely adhere to my own rule in that case). Active and eating for a couple of weeks or more is generally a good sign though.
 
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So, Good News:

The formalin/meth blue bath, followed by prazi pro in QT worked!
I could see large opaque flukes all over the bottom of the QT tank :yuck:

So, I decided that the inhabitants of my main tank (Benny the Blenny) should probably be treated too. Since I can't catch benny... I waterchanged and dosed the display with prazi. So far, the corals haven't reacted and everyone still acts like they're starving and active.

However, the clowns gills still look... well .... the only way I can think to describe it is sore or inflamed. I know I just eradicated a TON of flukes from this guys gills and eyes. So, this is normal? I should be worried?
 
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