Couple questions before ich treatment

one of my mollies looks like it has two little white spots on its tail. everyone seems fine and nobody is scratching on anything. when the molly turns right you can see that the white spots are definitely on the tale not in the tail. as I start treatments I have a couple of concerns:

we have two little baby fry, 1/4" or so in the tank. will increasing the temp of the tank hurt them?

we also have a newly introduced young/small female betta will a temp increase hurt her? this is my first betta.

also, suggestions for the future. we literally just went through this. I lost all but one fish. we had the temp up for two weeks with the one survivor. lowered the temp slowly and over the last couple weeks we have added 2 guppies a mollie and the beta.....now I see ich again. I'm a little annoyed that I've got the same issue just a month after what I thought was a successful treatment/cycle of ich. I previously treated with medication and temp. gave everything a while to settle, water change thought I was on my way. did I need to wait longer? tank was at 82 for two+ weeks after end of med cycle.

 

I don’t think the temp change would hurt the mollie fry or the betta, I would increase it slowly though. Some medications are not betta friendly, so be careful.

 

Temp increase is always stressful but key point here is that even if its stressful the end result of ich without treatment is likely death anyway. As the ^^ poster said the gradual increase is absolutely paramount to the health of the fish and I would adjust it slowly up over the course of a day or two.
If you're seeing ich return after beating it before you either did not successfully end the ich in the tank or! you added fish infected with ich into the tank. Proper quarantine procedures are not always possible but it is the best bet for ensuring you do not reintroduce a disease to the tank.
When ich is present and everything dies (which I know it didnt here) the best course is to completely empty the tank and scrub everything down. Then afterward proper quarantine is needed to ensure that nothing is reintroduced.

 

one of my mollies looks like it has two little white spots on its tail. everyone seems fine and nobody is scratching on anything. when the molly turns right you can see that the white spots are definitely on the tale not in the tail. as I start treatments I have a couple of concerns:

we have two little baby fry, 1/4" or so in the tank. will increasing the temp of the tank hurt them?

we also have a newly introduced young/small female betta will a temp increase hurt her? this is my first betta.

also, suggestions for the future. we literally just went through this. I lost all but one fish. we had the temp up for two weeks with the one survivor. lowered the temp slowly and over the last couple weeks we have added 2 guppies a mollie and the betta.....now I see ich again. I'm a little annoyed that I've got the same issue just a month after what I thought was a successful treatment/cycle of ich. I previously treated with medication and temp. gave everything a while to settle, water change thought I was on my way. did I need to wait longer? tank was at 82 for two+ weeks after end of med cycle.

You may not have completely eradicated the ich the first go round with meds. What product (med) did you use the first time?
Raising the temp to 82° shouldn't really bother any of the fish you have in the tank right now. 82° will not kill ich (if you already know this, sorry, but I can't assume that ) but it will speed up the life cycle of the ich making medication treatment more effective.
You might want to try a different product this time. Also, (again, sorry if you already know this) be sure to remove all carbon from your filter before starting treatment. Carbon will absorb the medication as fast as you put it in the tank.

 

I'm a little annoyed that I've got the same issue just a month after what I thought was a successful treatment/cycle of ich. I previously treated with medication and temp. gave everything a while to settle, water change thought I was on my way. did I need to wait longer? tank was at 82 for two+ weeks after end of med cycle.

I can understand your annoyance. If it wasn't completely eradicated I would expect a recurrence to be noticeable much sooner than a month after the end of treatment. I guess it's possible for a low level of infection to persist unnoticed, but you've also added new fish in the last two weeks so it's difficult to be certain of its origin. I hope you are successful this time around.

 

Pretty much everything I've read says you need temps of 86° or higher to disrupt the ich life cycle. I just went through it last month myself, and kept my aquarium at 87° for two weeks without any apparent ill effects to my fish.

 

Pretty much everything I've read says you need temps of 86° or higher to disrupt the ich life cycle. I just went through it last month myself, and kept my aquarium at 87° for two weeks without any apparent ill effects to my fish.

Yes! 86° or higher is good if you're using heat alone or heat and salt to kill the ich and it's a great way to get rid of ich in an empty tank. Ich can't reproduce at 86 or higher so they will all die with or without a host in 7 to 14 days at that temp. However, high temps may be more stressful to some species of fish, fish that are already compromised, and to fry than medication and a moderate raise in temps.

 

Thanks everyone! I previously used ich-x this go round I have only the one fish presenting any symptoms so we tried the imaginatarium herbal stuff. After the second treatment all fish seem healthy/happy and all but one white spot is gone on the single fish that had them. Fry are missing but I'm hoping they are hiding. I will continue treatment and temp for a bit.

Quarantine tank is set up for the next introductions

 

Thanks everyone! I previously used ich-x this go round I have only the one fish presenting any symptoms so we tried the imaginatarium herbal stuff. After the second treatment all fish seem healthy/happy and all but one white spot is gone on the single fish that had them. Fry are missing but I'm hoping they are hiding. I will continue treatment and temp for a bit.

Quarantine tank is set up for the next introductions

I would advise you to keep treating the tank for a week after all spots are gone. Because this product doesn't list ingredients, has no credible contact information or phone number, has no msds information that lists ingredients, and only about a 60% confidence rating, I would be very skeptical about its effectiveness against ich. It's herbal. The treatment period is just long enough (6 days) for the ich to disappear from fish but not long enough to kill all the ich in a tank, I suggest that you have a plan B ready. I am very suspicious of any product that doesn't at least have an 800 contact number for the actual product manufacturer

 

One spot can turn into 100 pretty quickly. I personally wouldn't trust any herbal treatments.