converting 20 gallon FW to FOWLR

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disclaimer: this is the tank i have, 20 gallon, using it for FOWLR with 3 fish absolute max, maybe 2 (clown, firefish, goby, mix of these maybe) i cannot buy a bigger tank, because i already have the led lighting and stand for this tank.

so with that said, 2 questions i have for doing this :)

1: i have read numorous times that for a 20 gallon FOWLR tank, i don't need a skimmer (right away at least) I have an aquaclear 30 HOB for my FW setup, can that be used as a filter for a a 20 gallon FOWLR? what kind of media would i put in it? the white sponge and chemi-pure? black carbon sack?

2: for starting out, what size of the instant ocean salt mix do i need? can i get away with a "50 gallon" container? or do i absolutely need the huge 160 gallon bucket? would the 50 gallon container last a few months? say with 10% weekly water changes.

I am soon dismantling the tank and clearing out my fw fish and plants, and in the process of pricing stuff that i need, because i am on kind of a budget, but i already have:

heater (might replace, not sure)
aquaclear 30
stand
24inch LED light with day/night lighting
nets and stuff
glass top
FW api master test kit (i know, getting SW kit lol)

so any ideas?
 

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Not really sure if you need the skimmer right away or not but it is going to get more expensive than you had originally planned. Here are a few other considerations to add into your budget. Live rock, substrate, a Powerhead, Refractometer for testing Salinity of your salt mix, salt water test kit, thermometer, bucket for mixing salt water. Those are just to name a few off the top of my head
 

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Yeah I know about all that I calculated it all today at my LFS, trying to see if I can get it all cheaper online lol (canada) only difference is I'll be using a hydrometer instead for a while because of the big price difference.

My main concern is this, a ro Di unit is out of the question right now, it's just a 20 gallon tank, and as long as I'm living where I am right now it will be my 1 tank. BUT I will be buying ro water at my LFS. 50 cents a gallon. Thing is transporting it lol, I need 20 gallons to start, and not sure how much for water changes (10% weekly?)
 

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I'm in Canada to and my lfs (big als) is about an hour and a half drive away. I've been ordering everything online because the price difference is a ton in savings. Like $20 cheaper on power heads, $30 cheaper on my Refractometer. Everything I've found cheaper online. The only thing I didn't get online was my 160 salt pail, tank, stand, and lights. I'm not sure how much I woulda saved had I had to pay for shipping but I haven't payed for shipping for anything at all for my setup. All I have left to get is substrate and a few pounds of LR to seed my 50lbs of Marco dry rock which I also got free shipping on. This site I've ordered everything has a free shipping for any orders of dry goods over $100 so what I did planned my orders. I made a list of everything I needed and just started to strategically place orders that always totalled enough to qualify for free shipping. All my orders I would get in like 5 business days and I'm not in a hurry to set up so it all worked out. That and I love getting packages in the mail lol. More than I like coming home with new stuff. If you want I can give you the site I ordered everything. Just let me know and I'll get u a link. I'm extremely happy where I place my orders so I didn't really even shop around. Just know that everything was way cheaper than big als.
 

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yeah my lfs used to be a big als, but they brandched off on their own on a different name. but same cocept. I found a place online in bc (im in quebec lol) that a few things are way cheaper. live sand is 12$ cheaper, salt is a few dollars cheaper, and the api test kit is way cheaper. its j&l actually.

problem is they didnt have everything I need, few things I couldn't find.

edit: ok i found a place in canada that has every single thing the same or better than my LFS (better live sand) and grand total came to about 20$ cheaper than my LFS because of the shipping for sand and salt (2 of the things that were cheaper online) after the shipping the sand comes to a bit more than the lfs lol.

what makes a difference is the api salt water master test kit, 39.99 at the lfs, 28.99 online, live sand is about a 10$ difference also but after shipping its the same.

so confused lol
 
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J&L is where I order. Everything is cheaper lol. And not just a little. Powerhead are like 15-20 cheaper, my Refractometer was like $30 cheaper. The only thing I found that wasn't really was like sand and salt because they don't count under the free shipping policy and you gotta pay extra shipping on them actually. I did see a place in Quebec or Montreal but never used them. I'm about an hour east of Toronto. J&L is fast tho. I'm sure I still have more to get. Gloves etc but I could setup now if I wanted. I gotta use big als tho for livestock and a few pounds of live rock
 
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