Consequences of stopping using gas co2 vs. "liquid co2"

Ben777
  • #1
Please, tell me if I understand it right.

I was discouraged from trying to use co2 gas system, when I read that if you stop using it, your plants are just gone and never recover. So I settled for a low-tech plant tank.

Then I read about "liquid co2", which has a much more gentle impact on the whole aquarium system.

I still have a question - what happens if I start using "liquid co2"? And what would happen if I stop using it? Would the consequences be as harsh as with gas co2 system?

Also, would you recommend using liquid co2 at all in nano aquarium? What are the pros. and cons.?

Thanks!!!
 
awilkinson871
  • #2
Most liquid co2 is really just an algaecide.
 
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Mudminnow
  • #3
Please, tell me if I understand it right.

...I read that if you stop using it, your plants are just gone and never recover.
I don't think this is true; it certainly hasn't been in my experience. If you stop injecting CO2, you usually run into some algae issues, because the tank is balanced around having higher levels of CO2. But, all you have to do is adjust things to a low tech tank. The plants may go through an adjustment period, but I haven't found this to be any worse than when plants are added to a new tank. There are a few species that don't seem to do well in low tech tanks, and these of course would struggle.

...what happens if I start using "liquid co2"? And what would happen if I stop using it? Would the consequences be as harsh as with gas co2 system?
I've found using a product like Excel does help plants grow a little. Some say this is only due to the product killing algae...I don't know. If you stop using it, you may see a little slower growth and perhaps a bit more algae. I think it would depend on your tank. CO2 injection has a far greater impact on plant growth--plants grow 5-10X faster with it. So, stopping CO2 injection will have a greater impact.

Also, would you recommend using liquid co2 at all in nano aquarium? What are the pros. and cons.?
It's up to you. One can definitely create a beautiful planted tank without any such products. Pros: maybe slightly faster growth and less algae. Cons: an unnecessary added expense.
 
GlennO
  • #4
"Liquid CO2" is a misnomer. It's not CO2, it's a disinfectant that, for aquarium purposes, can double as an algaecide.
 
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smee82
  • #5
If you start with pressurized honestly you wont want to stop but if you have to just slowly dual it down over a month and your fine.

Ive done this when ive gone back home home for a month or 2 and never had a problem. Some plants have stopped growing or lost a few bottom leaves while i was away but nothing had gone wrong.
 
Wayne73
  • #6
Please, tell me if I understand it right.

I was discouraged from trying to use co2 gas system, when I read that if you stop using it, your plants are just gone and never recover. So I settled for a low-tech plant tank.

Then I read about "liquid co2", which has a much more gentle impact on the whole aquarium system.

I still have a question - what happens if I start using "liquid co2"? And what would happen if I stop using it? Would the consequences be as harsh as with gas co2 system?

Also, would you recommend using liquid co2 at all in nano aquarium? What are the pros. and cons.?

Thanks!!!
Liquid co2 is glutaraidehyde.Its an agent for algae control (amongst other things). I've used it myself, but I'm in the process of first learning about pressurized co2 systems, then installing one.Ive no knowledge on how plants react if co2 is withdrawn, great point to ask though.But liquid co2 isnt co2.
 
MacZ
  • #7
All manufacturers of liquid CO2 products (be it still Glutaraldehyde or a similar substance), still have to proof their products work. All tests I've seen, that were NOT paid for by the companies, were at best inconclusive. One has even promoted the growth of certain green thread algae.

Glutaraldehyde and other substances from its class are known a long time as environmently hazardous, meaning technically aquarium water with that stuff in it would actually have to be disposed of not by just flushing it down the drain, but neither do the manufacturers tell you, nor is this written into law everywhere. Here they add a tiny sticker on the packaging of such products and when you look that sticker up it means you have to either bring it to a chemical disposal or if disposing of it via the household drain at least 10 times the volume of clear water should be used to dilute it. Which is really a waste.

So if one (hopefully) takes that serious, it should neither be put in a tank with animals at all, nor should it be used in general, no matter if it works or not.
 
Wayne73
  • #8
All manufacturers of liquid CO2 products (be it still Glutaraldehyde or a similar substance), still have to proof their products work. All tests I've seen, that were NOT paid for by the companies, were at best inconclusive. One has even promoted the growth of certain green thread algae.

Glutaraldehyde and other substances from its class are known a long time as environmently hazardous, meaning technically aquarium water with that stuff in it would actually have to be disposed of not by just flushing it down the drain, but neither do the manufacturers tell you, nor is this written into law everywhere. Here they add a tiny sticker on the packaging of such products and when you look that sticker up it means you have to either bring it to a chemical disposal or if disposing of it via the household drain at least 10 times the volume of clear water should be used to dilute it. Which is really a waste.

So if one (hopefully) takes that serious, it should neither be put in a tank with animals at all, nor should it be used in general, no matter if it

All manufacturers of liquid CO2 products (be it still Glutaraldehyde or a similar substance), still have to proof their products work. All tests I've seen, that were NOT paid for by the companies, were at best inconclusive. One has even promoted the growth of certain green thread algae.

Glutaraldehyde and other substances from its class are known a long time as environmently hazardous, meaning technically aquarium water with that stuff in it would actually have to be disposed of not by just flushing it down the drain, but neither do the manufacturers tell you, nor is this written into law everywhere. Here they add a tiny sticker on the packaging of such products and when you look that sticker up it means you have to either bring it to a chemical disposal or if disposing of it via the household drain at least 10 times the volume of clear water should be used to dilute it. Which is really a waste.

So if one (hopefully) takes that serious, it should neither be put in a tank with animals at all, nor should it be used in general, no matter if it works or not.
This is the product I've used.
All manufacturers of liquid CO2 products (be it still Glutaraldehyde or a similar substance), still have to proof their products work. All tests I've seen, that were NOT paid for by the companies, were at best inconclusive. One has even promoted the growth of certain green thread algae.

Glutaraldehyde and other substances from its class are known a long time as environmently hazardous, meaning technically aquarium water with that stuff in it would actually have to be disposed of not by just flushing it down the drain, but neither do the manufacturers tell you, nor is this written into law everywhere. Here they add a tiny sticker on the packaging of such products and when you look that sticker up it means you have to either bring it to a chemical disposal or if disposing of it via the household drain at least 10 times the volume of clear water should be used to dilute it. Which is really a waste.

So if one (hopefully) takes that serious, it should neither be put in a tank with animals at all, nor should it be used in general, no matter if it works or not.
This is the product I've used.
 

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MacZ
  • #9
This is the product I've used.
What are you trying to tell me? Or did you quote me accidently?
 
Wayne73
  • #10
What are you trying to tell me? Or did you quote me accidently?
Accidental
 
MacZ
  • #11
Ah, I see.
 

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