Completely/Evenly Random Discussion 2: The Randomer Discussion - Page 35

FinalFins

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I currently have 6 and one of the weaker males is finally starting to fall. I bought 11 of these guys. and they all HAD to die after the 2 week guarantee period.

Also, thinking of rearranging my tank and adding dragon stone? Ideas would be appreciated !
 

PascalKrypt

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Crispii said:
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!!!
Year of the rat right (I swear, didn't look it up)?
 

FinalFins

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PascalKrypt said:
Year of the rat right (I swear, didn't look it up)?
Yup.
 

PascalKrypt

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FinalFins said:
\o/
Think we were moving on from the year of the pig? Not 100% sure on that one either tbh..
Not sure if I prefer golden rat or golden pig figurines. Probably pig

Not so sure about the 'happy' part though =# Been kind of obsessively following current events and things aren't looking so hot.
 

FinalFins

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my snails walking on water?!? How do they do that?

Yeah lots of sad stuff.
 
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Crispii

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Feohw said:
Sorry to hear. Are you planning on doing something else in the 5? Am I sensing ninjas?
I'm exchanging it for another pair. I told my friend about it and he recommends me switching my current pair to the pair at the LFS.

FinalFins: I'm curious of what nationality you are since you are celebrating the Lunar New Year with family. If you don't feel comfortable telling it, then I understand.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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In the hospital for the next few hours, not much to do here, why on earth do people come?
 

PascalKrypt

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
In the hospital for the next few hours, not much to do here, why on earth do people come?
You tell me. A couple years ago my grandmother was in the hospital, doing terrible. She was in a critical condition and we were told it was better not to visit to give her rest. (She recovered btw, she's doing good in her mid eighties rn)
Mom's sister (cat and dogs those two) and her children went and visited her. Then later one of the obnoxious kids lectured me on not having visited my grandmother because "what if it had been the last time? It was really nice to go and see her."

And all I could think was; Okay. You feel better for having seen an only half-conscious person who either wasn't fully aware you were there or she was and you were tiring her out while she needing all her strength. I'm pretty sure people would prefer not to be seen in that state and keep that indignified event a little private.

My mom gets really snarky when people want to visit her in the hospital She literally yells "don't come!" in the phone when they call to arrange and visit and insists they come and visit her when she's back home for some tea instead.

I mean, I hope it isn't that dramatic Hope it's just a routine visit after surgery or something?
 

jinjerJOSH22

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PascalKrypt said:
You tell me. A couple years ago my grandmother was in the hospital, doing terrible. She was in a critical condition and we were told it was better not to visit to give her rest. (She recovered btw, she's doing good in her mid eighties rn)
Mom's sister (cat and dogs those two) and her children went and visited her. Then later one of the obnoxious kids lectured me on not having visited my grandmother because "what if it had been the last time? It was really nice to go and see her."

And all I could think was; Okay. You feel better for having seen an only half-conscious person who either wasn't fully aware you were there or she was and you were tiring her out while she needing all her strength. I'm pretty sure people would prefer not to be seen in that state and keep that indignified event a little private.

My mom gets really snarky when people want to visit her in the hospital She literally yells "don't come!" in the phone when they call to arrange and visit and insists they come and visit her when she's back home for some tea instead.

I mean, I hope it isn't that dramatic Hope it's just a routine visit after surgery or something?
Mum was just going in for tests 2 more things wrong with her but nothing too serious.

My uncle was the same, he didn't want anyone to come see him, he was the eldest of 4 siblins he was stubborn and proud, he didn't like people seeing him weak.

I agree with you on this, hospital isn't a meeting place, it's for recovery. Of course there's exceptions but it takes a lot of energy to deal with people.

I do regret not going to see my Grandmother when she was on her last legs, but she said something to me and I couldn't bare to see her, to be fair I was 12-13 and this was the first time dealing with death.
 

FinalFins

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Crispii said:
FinalFins: I'm curious of what nationality you are since you are celebrating the Lunar New Year with family. If you don't feel comfortable telling it, then I understand.
Chinese. Et toi? Also if your not comfortable, I understand.
 

PascalKrypt

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
Mum was just going in for tests 2 more things wrong with her but nothing too serious.

My uncle was the same, he didn't want anyone to come see him, he was the eldest of 4 siblins he was stubborn and proud, he didn't like people seeing him weak.

I agree with you on this, hospital isn't a meeting place, it's for recovery. Of course there's exceptions but it takes a lot of energy to deal with people.

I do regret not going to see my Grandmother when she was on her last legs, but she said something to me and I couldn't bare to see her, to be fair I was 12-13 and this was the first time dealing with death.
Glad to hear, hope she recovers or at least continues to do well.

Yes, as children we are kind of excused. I skipped a funeral in my early teens when I was given the choice because the thought horrified me, I later realised that having that kind of 'ending' ceremony is better for processing later on. I kept running headfirst into the realisation that person was no more for months, as if my brain hadn't really processed it. And I wasn't even that close to them.
Also very much a learning process.

Sorry about the situation with your grandmother though. I can see how that might gnaw at you from time to time.
 

TheDitherFish

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why do you have to exchange your pair?
 
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Crispii

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TheDitherFish said:
why do you have to exchange your pair?
Aggression.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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PascalKrypt said:
Glad to hear, hope she recovers or at least continues to do well.

Yes, as children we are kind of excused. I skipped a funeral in my early teens when I was given the choice because the thought horrified me, I later realised that having that kind of 'ending' ceremony is better for processing later on. I kept running headfirst into the realisation that person was no more for months, as if my brain hadn't really processed it. And I wasn't even that close to them.
Also very much a learning process.

Sorry about the situation with your grandmother though. I can see how that might gnaw at you from time to time.
My Uncle was the difficult one, he was like the father I never had but the worst part of that was losing my 16 year old dog a month later and my 20 year old cat a month after that

This was a rough period but i'm fairly good at laughing things off these days. Especially when in my uncles last words he took the mick, saying he "could see the light" Mums not so much religious but ghosts and whatnot Her face was a picture, I didn't know whether to cry or laugh, so I did both.

Because I was so close to him I ended up giving a speech at his funeral, i'm not sure if "proud" is the right word but that experience standing in front of 50 or so people is something I'll never forget.

Closure is important, I got it with my Gran when we scattered her ashes, probably one of the most fun days of my life, simply because the wind was strong enough to sit on and what was meant to be a "sad" day ended hilariously with her flying out the box in a split-second

Thanks, Mum should be fine
 

CMB

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PascalKrypt said:
Glad to hear, hope she recovers or at least continues to do well.

Yes, as children we are kind of excused. I skipped a funeral in my early teens when I was given the choice because the thought horrified me, I later realised that having that kind of 'ending' ceremony is better for processing later on. I kept running headfirst into the realisation that person was no more for months, as if my brain hadn't really processed it. And I wasn't even that close to them.
Also very much a learning process.

Sorry about the situation with your grandmother though. I can see how that might gnaw at you from time to time.
Yeah, I know that feeling. The feeling of seeing something that reminds you of someone and just assuming they'll be there, then realizing otherwise. I just personally wonder if going to a funeral would actually help with this, or if your brain would remain in denial for a while either way. Idk, funerals just kind of bother me... Too many people, and the idea of a dead body just creeps me out. I think I'm just one of those people that prefers to morn in relative private, though.
 
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Crispii

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Goodbye old pair and hello new pair! I'm hoping that nothing bad will happen to the new pair.
 

NC122606

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Awww,
Did you guys see Kobe Bryant just passed away in a helicopter crash?
 

Feohw

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His 13 year old daughter too... so sad!
 

Feohw

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FinalFins said:
Guys need help on decision!!! ASAP!

mysis shrimp or brine shrimp for cpds?
Well I definitely didn't get to this soon. What did you go for? I've only fed them brine shrimp and bloodworms. Both do great and I'm sure mysis would too. I'd say whichever you chose/choose will do well.
 
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Crispii

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FinalFins

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Feohw said:
Well I definitely didn't get to this soon. What did you go for? I've only fed them brine shrimp and bloodworms. Both do great and I'm sure mysis would too. I'd say whichever you chose/choose will do well.
I bought bloodworms but they were a tad too oversized so I'm gonna exchange for something smaller. (just clickbait when I said asap )Trying to fatten up the males in the group, I might lose them, they are not coming out much and look kinda sickly. Loosing bit of fat too. Females are doing suprisingly well.
 
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Crispii

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FinalFins said:
I bought bloodworms but they were a tad too oversized so I'm gonna exchange for something smaller. (just clickbait when I said asap )Trying to fatten up the males in the group, I might lose them, they are not coming out much and look kinda sickly. Loosing bit of fat too. Females are doing suprisingly well.
Feed them some BBS.
 

FinalFins

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Crispii said:
Feed them some BBS.
Frozen? Can't get hands on live and they won't come out that often.
 

Feohw

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FinalFins said:
I bought bloodworms but they were a tad too oversized so I'm gonna exchange for something smaller. (just clickbait when I said asap )Trying to fatten up the males in the group, I might lose them, they are not coming out much and look kinda sickly. Loosing bit of fat too. Females are doing suprisingly well.
They must be tiny little guys. Pity you are experiencing problems with them, they can be such a fantastic fish. My LFS has bags of live BBS for sale if yours has anything similar?

In other news, check out this big boy I found at my LFS a few weeks back.
 
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Crispii

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FinalFins said:
Frozen? Can't get hands on live and they won't come out that often.
Frozen should be fine.
 

kallililly1973

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I've been doing quite a variety of frozen foods ( well a variety to my fish anyways ) frozen Bloodworms of course, brine shrimp, daphnia, and recently introduced carnivore frozen foods.... All Omega One brand. As soon as I tap the bbq skewer on the top of the tank everyone comes running ( swimming ) right through the plants to reach the top.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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I feed mine crushed flake, Tropical Bug Bites and frozen Daphnia. They've taken to all of them well.
 

PascalKrypt

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
My Uncle was the difficult one, he was like the father I never had but the worst part of that was losing my 16 year old dog a month later and my 20 year old cat a month after that

This was a rough period but i'm fairly good at laughing things off these days. Especially when in my uncles last words he took the mick, saying he "could see the light" Mums not so much religious but ghosts and whatnot Her face was a picture, I didn't know whether to cry or laugh, so I did both.

Because I was so close to him I ended up giving a speech at his funeral, i'm not sure if "proud" is the right word but that experience standing in front of 50 or so people is something I'll never forget.

Closure is important, I got it with my Gran when we scattered her ashes, probably one of the most fun days of my life, simply because the wind was strong enough to sit on and what was meant to be a "sad" day ended hilariously with her flying out the box in a split-second

Thanks, Mum should be fine
Your uncle sounds like he was a blast and the center of the party, haha. Must have been an epic guy.
Funerals are always .. weird. Always. And sometimes they can actually be pretty sweet. When my 90-something grandmother (other one) passed away after a decade of dementia so bad she didn't recognise her own sons and poured coffee in plant pots to 'water' them, the funeral was more of a chuckle and an awkward family reunion of estranged siblings and cousins than anything else. I tried not to feel awkward gossip-whispering in the back row during the service. Whoops. But everybody else was doing it

CMB said:
Yeah, I know that feeling. The feeling of seeing something that reminds you of someone and just assuming they'll be there, then realizing otherwise. I just personally wonder if going to a funeral would actually help with this, or if your brain would remain in denial for a while either way. Idk, funerals just kind of bother me... Too many people, and the idea of a dead body just creeps me out. I think I'm just one of those people that prefers to morn in relative private, though.
I think it depends on how heavy the loss is. If it was someone like a direct relative or one of your closest friends, then probably it doesn't make that huge of a difference in this experience. But when it is someone you do interact (e.g. professionally) with but are not that close to emotionally, I've found it makes a difference for sure.

Last summer I went to a funeral for a young kid (relative). That was the most surreal experience. They played a children's song during the service that was meant to be endearing but will now forever be tainted for me.

But you know, on to more lighthearted topics =#
 

FinalFins

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Feohw said:
They must be tiny little guys. Pity you are experiencing problems with them, they can be such a fantastic fish. My LFS has bags of live BBS for sale if yours has anything similar?

In other news, check out this big boy I found at my LFS a few weeks back.
Nope, no big bags of live bbs. Unfortunatly.
 

NC122606

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Question,
If I transfer my filtered sponge filter from my other tank to my other one will they die if the temperature difference is about 8°?
 

PascalKrypt

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NC122606 said:
Question,
If I transfer my filtered sponge filter from my other tank to my other one will they die if the temperature difference is about 8°?
Hahaha, nope. Filter bacteria are hardy as uh... you know.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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Might pick out a Paradise fraternity on Wednesday, not really any point in a Harem with Tiger Barbs around and last time my LFS had some bright males and nice Albinos.

Edit: or they occasionally have Chocolate Gourami, depending on whether they are tank bred I could try and keep them with my 130 tds?
 
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Crispii

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
Might pick out a Paradise fraternity on Wednesday, not really any point in a Harem with Tiger Barbs around and last time my LFS had some bright males and nice Albinos.

Edit: or they occasionally have Chocolate Gourami, depending on whether they are tank bred I could try and keep them with my 130 tds?
I'm tempted to get more wild Bettas.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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PascalKrypt

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
Might pick out a Paradise fraternity on Wednesday, not really any point in a Harem with Tiger Barbs around and last time my LFS had some bright males and nice Albinos.

Edit: or they occasionally have Chocolate Gourami, depending on whether they are tank bred I could try and keep them with my 130 tds?
Either would be an interesting and unique project, let me know what you go with!

If you end up going for the chocolates make sure to get at least 5 (assuming they are regular S. osphromenoides). You will have real aggression problems if you get less and problems with them feeling miserable and lonely if you get a single one. They are too hard to sex at the age they are usually sold.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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PascalKrypt said:
Either would be an interesting and unique project, let me know what you go with!

If you end up going for the chocolates make sure to get at least 5 (assuming they are regular S. osphromenoides). You will have real aggression problems if you get less and problems with them feeling miserable and lonely if you get a single one. They are too hard to sex at the age they are usually sold.
All the times I remember seeing them they usually only have had one, admittedly i've only recently been interested in Chocolates other than the "Vaillanti" so they might've had more.
Yeah they are S. Osphromenoides.
 

Lakenvelderin

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I found an amano shrimp in some frogbit I bought from my LFS! To this day he's one of my favorite little creatures, and he definitely helps keep mulm and algae off my plants.
 
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Crispii

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Just got back from my uncle's place. No aquarium related stuff to steal, unfortunately.

Now here's a tank full of belly-buttoned-mouth fish.
 

jinjerJOSH22

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I was going to grab a photo of my male Thick Lipped GouramI who developed a partial black breeding dress? but turning the lights on everyone was obviously asleep

I love SAEs
 

PascalKrypt

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
All the times I remember seeing them they usually only have had one, admittedly i've only recently been interested in Chocolates other than the "Vaillanti" so they might've had more.
Yeah they are S. Osphromenoides.
Really? Probably to protect investment since chocos are so notorious for dying in the stores.
My nearest LFS actually sells them in bundles (5 for the price of 4) as they do with other fish that are encouraged to be kept in groups. They get groups of 20 or so shipped in every other week. I shudder at the thought of what becomes of them though. Pretty sure 95% doesn't make the average 3 week post pet store survival rate...

jinjerJOSH22 said:
I was going to grab a photo of my male Thick Lipped GouramI who developed a partial black breeding dress? but turning the lights on everyone was obviously asleep
I love SAEs
Nice Active little buggers.

Let me know if you manage to catch it on camera, would love to see!


P.S. Just a heads up that starting on Tuesday, I'll be leaving the country again for a week and probably won't have much time online save for some 10 mins at night to catch up.
 

NC122606

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Ok so, you know that I’m cycling my 54 right now. But I have a question, how much ammonia should I be dosing to the tank? I don’t have any fish for the tank at the moment. Also how would you do a established media cycle? (I have an idea of how just want to hear how you would do it.)
 

jinjerJOSH22

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Ok not to bang on about the whole death thing because it's been done to death but a friend of the family died this morning from a heart attack..... so i'm thinking we start discussing winning the lottery or finding VaillantI Chocolate Gourami?

NC122606 said:
Ok so, you know that I’m cycling my 54 right now. But I have a question, how much ammonia should I be dosing to the tank? I don’t have any fish for the tank at the moment. Also how would you do a established media cycle? (I have an idea of how just want to hear how you would do it.)
Cycle it as you would a new aquarium, somewhere between 2-4ppm? The process will just be faster.
 

CMB

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
Ok not to bang on about the whole death thing because it's been done to death but a friend of the family died this morning from a heart attack..... so i'm thinking we start discussing winning the lottery or finding VaillantI Chocolate Gourami?
Alright, well I need a bit of advice on the whole lottery winning issue. Could someone please tell me how to guarantee I win the lottery if I don't even play?
 

jinjerJOSH22

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Lfs on Wednesday then in two weeks i'm hopefully going to one that's over an hour away, I can't wait, why is going to see new stores so exciting? Oh and to top it off there's one 3 miles away from that one which I will also be visiting on the way back.
I wonder what GouramI they'll have, i'm not going to post the names of the store to avoid spoilers
 

NC122606

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Dosed 1 DPG Ignore.
 

PascalKrypt

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jinjerJOSH22 said:
Ok not to bang on about the whole death thing because it's been done to death but a friend of the family died this morning from a heart attack..... so i'm thinking we start discussing winning the lottery or finding VaillantI Chocolate Gourami?
We jinxed it My condolences.

CMB said:
Alright, well I need a bit of advice on the whole lottery winning issue. Could someone please tell me how to guarantee I win the lottery if I don't even play?
I have this thing where I categorically refuse to play the lottery because it helps with my fear of flying. You know your odds of a plane crash are higher than winning a state lottery? So if I were to consider the "but I could just win..." scenario then I'd never be able to console myself with "come on, what are the odds that..." when my plane takes off. Rationality is a wonderful thing (though I do hope none of my acquaintances ever wins for that reason...)
Incidentally will be boarding two planes in a row in about 12 hours. >.< you'd think being a frequent flyer you'd eventually get over it, and it definitely isn't as bad, but it never goes away entirely.

jinjerJOSH22 said:
Lfs on Wednesday then in two weeks i'm hopefully going to one that's over an hour away, I can't wait, why is going to see new stores so exciting? Oh and to top it off there's one 3 miles away from that one which I will also be visiting on the way back.
I wonder what GouramI they'll have, i'm not going to post the names of the store to avoid spoilers
Yes yes yes! I know right, the internet ruins these things xD On the one hand you want to look up their database online so you'll know if it is worth it but on the other hand you'll have so much less fun!
 

CMB

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PascalKrypt said:
We jinxed it My condolences.


I have this thing where I categorically refuse to play the lottery because it helps with my fear of flying. You know your odds of a plane crash are higher than winning a state lottery? So if I were to consider the "but I could just win..." scenario then I'd never be able to console myself with "come on, what are the odds that..." when my plane takes off. Rationality is a wonderful thing (though I do hope none of my acquaintances ever wins for that reason...)
Incidentally will be boarding two planes in a row in about 12 hours. >.< you'd think being a frequent flyer you'd eventually get over it, and it definitely isn't as bad, but it never goes away entirely.


Yes yes yes! I know right, the internet ruins these things xD On the one hand you want to look up their database online so you'll know if it is worth it but on the other hand you'll have so much less fun!
Yeah, that actually makes sense in a weird way. I've never flown before, so my odds of winning the lottery and being involved in a plane crash are almost exactly the same.
 
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Crispii

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Something scary happened today while I was driving to my LFS. I was on the left turn lane and when I was turning around, I heard a police motorcycle siren go off. My thought was, "Oh no. Am I getting pulled over?" Fortunately, the cop didn't go after me and I safely made it to the LFS. If the cop pulled over, then I would be in big trouble!
 

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