Important Clownfish vomited food after using Seachem Garlic Guard?

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Hi everyone,

Today I bought Seachem Garlic Guard because I heard it naturally boost the fish immune system. So I put 6 New Life Spectrum Pellets and soaked them in the garlic guard then put the soaked pellets and a tiny bit of the garlic guard that it was soaked with in the tank.

My clownfish occelaris which has been in my tank for only 6 days went crazy and ate the food faster than normal, he also ate more than usual per day (I usually do not feed him that much in the afternoon). He looks very healthy and is always eating, I bought the Garlic Guard because on the second day of me having him I believe he accidentally scratched himself and he got a red patch, it seems to be healing though, as I can see it less now. He is never scratching against anything. (Picture of him and the red patch attached)

Anyway 10-15 mins after he ate the pellets with garlic, I saw an "explosion" of "orange" stuff coming from him. It was pretty fast and I am not sure if it was diarrhea (is that even possible) or he vomited all the pellets?, it did look like digested food to me.

I am really concerned that he might be sick now, what do you guys think?. Did he just eat too much today, or did the Seachem Garlic Guard upset his stomach?, did I put too much Garlic Guard in the food?, or is he sick?. I have never seen him do this before.

After he vomited (or poo?), he continued to just swim normally as always, he seems pretty healthy.

Please let me know if this is something I should be worried about. Also I assume no more Garlic Guard for him perhaps?.

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Oscar
 

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Don't know much about the garlic stuff other than what you have, that's its good for the fish, but hope he is ok.
 

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You said he ate more than normal and faster as well... IMO that's the cause... I hope you clown heals quickly!
 

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Good morning,

Sometimes fish do spit out or regurgitate their foods after a little bit. The fish may have been stuffed and once it dissolved inside the fish, it may have been too much.

Too, foods may actually exit via the gills sometimes.

I really do not feel that Garlic Guard was the cause. I use this product twice a week on all of my fishes foods with no ill effects. (freshwater tanks).

Ken
 

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I think he may have been a little piggy, and ate too much, too quick.

I haven't used Garlic Guard on my SW tank (I use it on my FW occasionally), but I can't imagine it would do any harm to fish - maybe corals (big guess)

Which NLS do use? Does it have the Thera? If so, this is kind of like a garlic infused food anyway.

I would say, feed less next time, and don't use as much garlic guard. I can't see how you'll do any harm.
 
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Thank you everyone for your responses. He is eating normally today and seems healthy =). I did not use the Garlic today but I do agree he probably just ate too much.

What is NLS?, I feed him 1 mm new life spectrum.
 

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oscarmk said:
Thank you everyone for your responses. He is eating normally today and seems healthy =). I did not use the Garlic today but I do agree he probably just ate too much.

What is NLS?, I feed him 1 mm new life spectrum.
NLS = New Life Spectrum
 
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mrHDpants said:
NLS = New Life Spectrum
Oh , I just have the normal NLS they sell at amazon.com, I read and it seems to already have Garlic on it. I did not know there were different types of NLS.

Today I witnessed my fish doing the EXACT same thing, he was swimming and suddenly there was this explosion of orange stuff, I am pretty sure it came from behind, so I it was poo. But now I am really concerned, does he have diarrhea?, after the explosive poo, he even attempted to eat some of it!, although he spit it out. A few minutes later I fed him 4 NLS 1 mm pellets he ate them pretty fast, he seems healthy otherwise.

Am I feeding him too much?, I usually feed him at 11:30 AM 4-6 pellets which he eats all of them, and around 7 PM another 4, he eats them all. As a side question should I put additional pellets that he wont eat so that my CUC eats them?. I have 3 small red legged hermit crabs, 4 really small nassarius snail, and a small peppermint shrimp.

I must say before the Garlic Guard I never witnessed him doing that, but that definitely does not mean he has not done it before.

How can I threat him for diarrhea?, also I read online that some fish just normally have explosive poo, but this does not seem right to me at all, he is a clownfish occelaris about 2 inches.
 
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Clownfish occelaris with diarrhea???

Hi everyone,

I did not know this, and I have tried for hours to find information on this, but now that i have witnessed my small clownfish (about 2 inches), do this at least twice, I really think he has diarrhea, he is swimmif and suddenly an explosion of poop is released, it is orange in color, I am not a 100% sure it is coming from his anus, since it is pretty fast, but this second time i happened 5 hours after he last ate, so I dont think he vomited.

He eats NLS 1mm for the most part, twice a day and about 4-6 each time. The first time i saw this it was the first time I soaked the pellets in Garlic guard (this was yesterday), I did not use the Garlic guard today, but I saw him do the exact same thing again today.

This time he even attempted to eat the poo??, he spit it though, I fed him 4 pellets 10 minutes after and he ate them just fine, he looks really healthy too.

Anyway I have only had him for 8 days, my water params are all 0s, tank is only 1 month old.

I intend to give him flakes or frozen shrimp tomorrow... What do you guys think?. How do I cure this explosive poop?, could he die from this?.

Any help will be greatly appreciated
 

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My blue tang drops a deuce every time food hits the water. At first I thought it was just a weird occurrence but he does it every time now and I'm starting to wonder if it's to distract the other fish so he can get more food lol.

I feed NLS 1 mm pellets and the fish go crazy for it. I try to feed them several times per day a small feeding of the pellets but sometimes it's only twice a day due to lack of time. I then mix in rod's foods (the orange packs and the green packs) a couple times a week because it gets kind of expensive.

Not sure what is up with your clownfish. I would keep feeding it several times per day though. The NLS pellets can form the bulk of their diet and try to supplement with thawed foods like mysis, rod's, brine shrimp, etc. As long as it is eating well I wouldn't worry too much about the poo issue.
 
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Mike said:
My blue tang drops a deuce every time food hits the water. At first I thought it was just a weird occurrence but he does it every time now and I'm starting to wonder if it's to distract the other fish so he can get more food lol.

I feed NLS 1 mm pellets and the fish go crazy for it. I try to feed them several times per day a small feeding of the pellets but sometimes it's only twice a day due to lack of time. I then mix in rod's foods (the orange packs and the green packs) a couple times a week because it gets kind of expensive.

Not sure what is up with your clownfish. I would keep feeding it several times per day though. The NLS pellets can form the bulk of their diet and try to supplement with thawed foods like mysis, rod's, brine shrimp, etc. As long as it is eating well I wouldn't worry too much about the poo issue.
Thank you for your response. He continues to look healthy and eating, haven't seen him do his poop explotion today lol, but then again I am not looking at him all the time.

On a positive note his red scar he had is healing nicely
 

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Glad to hear he is doing good despite someone giving me negative reputation rating for my initial concern in my first post.
 
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troyvsc said:
Don't know much about the garlic stuff other than what you have, that's its good for the fish, but hope he is ok.
troyvsc said:
Glad to hear he is doing good despite you giving me negative feedback rating for my initial concern in my first post. Oh yeah forgot you got the bump when I responded cause at that point no one had responded to your thread.
I am really sorry, i do not even know how to give negative feedback, and I really appreciate your responses. i clicked the + sign and like on your posts, hope that helps.

How can I remove the negative feedback?
 

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Well then I apologize if it wasn't you. I edited my post to reflect that you were not the one that gave me the neg rep. sometimes i sou off before i know all the facts.

Someone gave me the negative reputation and made comment "if you can't help don't post..."

Again glad to see your fish is doing well.
 

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Glad your fish is ok. I dont see the negative comment anymore. I hope it wasnt the other me because it sounds vaguely familiar.
 
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He did the exact same thing today... It is orange poop that comes out very fast and desintegrates in the water really fast, kind if like an explotion... I mostly feed him NLS 1 mm 4-6 pellets at 12 am and 2-4 at 7 pm, is this too much? He is about 2 inches.

He seems really healthy otherwise.
 
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