Cloudy water HELP

Louise50

Hello,

I have a 55 gallon fresh water fish tank. The water is cloudy. I use a canister filter. It’s been up and running for a month now. I have a Oscar fish in the tank right now. I’ve had other fish but everything keeps dying. When I test the water everything comes back fine. I did a half water change the other day thinking it would help clear the cloudy water but it hasn’t. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Can someone please help me?
 

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MercyGrace

Hmm. I don't why your aquarium water is cloudy, but I do know a product you can try to clear it. I had a aquarium that had cloudy water, and I used tetra water clarifier. It did the trick and it hasn't been a problem since!
 

Louise50

Hmm. I don't why your aquarium water is cloudy, but I do know a product you can try to clear it. I had a aquarium that had cloudy water, and I used tetra water clarifier. It did the trick and it hasn't been a problem since!
Thank you. I will go and get some tomorrow. it works.
Thank you. I will go and get some tomorrow. it works.
Hoping it works.
 

PAcanis

I'd like to hear how it works.

I bought some Seachem Clarity just in case.
Last night, several hours after planting a couple new plants, I noticed my normally clear tank was cloudy, so I went ahead and added the required amount of Clarity.

The instructions said it might take one to two hours to clear, but I did not trust that for as cloudy as it made my water. I added another filter into the tank to help clear it more quickly.
And this morning it is still cloudy. Really wishing I had not done anything. Or gone with a charcoal insert.

The fish seem fine anyway, but you should have seen them after adding the Clarity. The rummynose went into hiding and the corys and cherry barbs were actually shoaling.
 

otterblue

I had the same problem when I set up my own tank. It drove me crazy! It didn't start clear and didn't become clear. I'm certain part of my problem was not rinsing the substrate well enough and disturbing the substrate when I added the water.

I ended up siphoning out all the water, replacing the substrate and changing the way I added the water (I also put Poly-fil in my filter).

Since then my tank has been crystal clear.
 

Fisch

Welcome to Fishlore. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but could you provide some additional information? My first question would be if your tank is cycled? You state that everything is dying, and that is concerning.
With the information provided it seems to be a bacterial bloom during the cycling process. If you please fill the Emergency template, I am sure the more experienced members can help you to find a solution to your issues.
 

Ouse

Let’s not add in a bunch of chemicals just yet...

Louise50, what are you using to test the water?
 

Louise50

Let’s not add in a bunch of chemicals just yet...

Louise50, what are you using to test the water?
I am using the test strips and I bought a sample to Petsmart and petco and they told me everything is testing fine.
 

MercyGrace

I'd like to hear how it works.

I bought some Seachem Clarity just in case.
Last night, several hours after planting a couple new plants, I noticed my normally clear tank was cloudy, so I went ahead and added the required amount of Clarity.

The instructions said it might take one to two hours to clear, but I did not trust that for as cloudy as it made my water. I added another filter into the tank to help clear it more quickly.
And this morning it is still cloudy. Really wishing I had not done anything. Or gone with a charcoal insert.

The fish seem fine anyway, but you should have seen them after adding the Clarity. The rummynose went into hiding and the corys and cherry barbs were actually shoaling.
Hmm, the tetra water clarifier I used says it makes small particles the water to clump together and sink.
 

Ouse

I am using the test strips and I bought a sample to Petsmart and petco and they told me everything is testing fine.
This is just the answer I anticipated.

Such cloudy water is the result of a bacterial bloom that occurs during cycling. As your fish are dying off and a bloom is in process, I’m hinted the tank is still cycling.

Next, most test strips are known for being faulty, very faulty. Assuming you’re using API’s strips, yours would’ve begun degrading as soon as they were opened via exposure to the moisture in air. This spawns false readings. It’s a shame they’re so popular and they even troubled me before.

Big pet shops aren’t known for telling the truth. Even if the water tests come back as unpromising, often they’ll tell you it’s fine in order to prompt you into buying their fish regardless. This is commercialism at it’s finest.

My guess is that the employee who tested the water for themselves used either API’s strips or their Master Kit, the latter is actually one of the best tests out there, although if the employee who ran the water test told the truth is another story...

Are you using API’s test strips?

Anyways, whenever the combined total of ammonia and nitrite rises to 1ppm of above, do a 50% water change. This is key when fish-in cycling.

The cloudy water is harmless, however the rise in ammonia and/or nitrite which causes it isn’t. Just use appropriate water changes; no need to use chemicals to quell the cloudiness (adding chemicals usually has adverse effects and harms more fish than it saves).
 

Louise50

Welcome to Fishlore. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but could you provide some additional information? My first question would be if your tank is cycled? You state that everything is dying, and that is concerning.
With the information provided it seems to be a bacterial bloom during the cycling process. If you please fill the Emergency template, I am sure the more experienced members can help you to find a solution to your issues.
I had the same problem when I set up my own tank. It drove me crazy! It didn't start clear and didn't become clear. I'm certain part of my problem was not rinsing the substrate well enough and disturbing the substrate when I added the water.

I ended up siphoning out all the water, replacing the substrate and changing the way I added the water (I also put Poly-fil in my filter).

Since then my tank has been crystal clear.
I have a fluval canister filter. I have rocks on the bottom and washed them in cold water before putting them in the tank. I did a 25% water change a few days ago. I used tap water from my sink and added the tap water solution.
 

Ouse

Go bigger and do 50% water changes rather than 25%. 25% only dilutes compounds down by 25%, and usually removes them slower than they’re being produced. 50% is much more efficient. ;)

You’ll need a test kit that’s actually able to detect ammonia, nitrite and nitrate without giving false readings. I’m more then sceptical your current kit isn’t doing this.

Test no more and no less than once a day during this process.
 

Louise50

This is just the answer I anticipated.

Such cloudy water is the result of a bacterial bloom that occurs during cycling. As your fish are dying off and a bloom is in process, I’m hinted the tank is still cycling.

Next, most test strips are known for being faulty, very faulty. Assuming you’re using API’s strips, yours would’ve begun degrading as soon as they were opened via exposure to the moisture in air. This spawns false readings. It’s a shame they’re so popular and they even troubled me before.

Big pet shops aren’t known for telling the truth. Even if the water tests come back as unpromising, often they’ll tell you it’s fine in order to prompt you into buying their fish regardless. This is commercialism at it’s finest.

My guess is that the employee who tested the water for themselves used either API’s strips or their Master Kit, the latter is actually one of the best tests out there, although if the employee who ran the water test told the truth is another story...

Are you using API’s test strips?

Anyways, whenever the combined total of ammonia and nitrite rises to 1ppm of above, do a 50% water change. This is key when fish-in cycling.

The cloudy water is harmless, however the rise in ammonia and/or nitrite which causes it isn’t. Just use appropriate water changes; no need to use chemicals to quell the cloudiness (adding chemicals usually has adverse effects and harms more fish than it saves).
I am using the API test strips. The employees also used API test strips at both pet stores. The filter I am using is Fluval canister. When I setup my fish tank I washed everything before adding the water. I also treated it with tap water conditioner and waited a week before adding any fish.
Go bigger and do 50% water changes rather than 25%. 25% only dilutes compounds down by 25%, and usually removes them slower than they’re being produced. 50% is much more efficient. ;)

You’ll need a test kit that’s actually able to detect ammonia, nitrite and nitrate without giving false readings. I’m more then sceptical your current kit isn’t doing this.

Test no more and no less than once a day during this process.
Should I remove my Oscar fish and do a full water change and wash all rocks and fake plants?
Welcome to Fishlore. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but could you provide some additional information? My first question would be if your tank is cycled? You state that everything is dying, and that is concerning.
With the information provided it seems to be a bacterial bloom during the cycling process. If you please fill the Emergency template, I am sure the more experienced members can help you to find a solution to your issues.
Welcome to Fishlore. Sorry to hear about your troubles, but could you provide some additional information? My first question would be if your tank is cycled? You state that everything is dying, and that is concerning.
With the information provided it seems to be a bacterial bloom during the cycling process. If you please fill the Emergency template, I am sure the more experienced members can help you to find a solution to your issues.
Hello! I am using a fluval canister filter. I have rocks on the bottom that I washed before adding to the fish tank. I used tap water and used the water conditioner. I have 3 fake plants in the water and plastic reef that makes bubbles and a hide. I test the water every day with API test strips and the readings are coming back normal. I also brought some water into Petsmart and Petco for them to test it and they also used API test strips and told me everything is reading good. I have one Oscar fish in the tank now. I had another Oscar fish that died a parrot fish that died and a bottom feeder that died.
 

Ouse

I am using the API test strips.
It will help to the API Master Kit and then throw the test strips away. The strips are certainly giving you false readings.
Should I remove my Oscar fish and do a full water change and wash all rocks and fake plants?
Deep-cleaning the tank will only do untold harm. Please don’t do this. It would be best to just keep up with the water changes in the quantities I suggested.

I’ve come across many sites that recommend removing decorations to clean them. In my novice stage, I might’ve done this a few times. This is a terrible idea, especially during cycling.
 

Fisch

The canister filter is perfect, but the good bacteria converting Ammonia into Nitrites, and then Nitrites into the final Nitrate still needs to develop. It sounds like you are at the beginning of a fish in cycle, meaning that the good bacteria starts to build and grow.
There is no reason to panic, the Oscar will help you, and you have a nice tank size to start.
Ouse has great advice. Order/get the API Freshwater test kit, the expense is worth it as it provides you with pretty accurate data for the pH, Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates. Just follow the detailed instruction (and it will feel like you are in chemistry class again...). In the meantime I would go with the high frequency of water changes as Ouse suggested. If you condition your tap water with Prime, it will help to protect your Oscar a bit as well. But the water changes will save your Oscar's life. When the test kit comes, the parameter readings will guide you in regards to frequency of water changes.
No big tank or filter scrubbing necessary at this time. Cycles to build the bacteria take ~6 weeks (+/-), so there is a bit of patience involved. You are on your way :)
LFS and big box stores all seem to use test strips. While they are very cost effective to provide a trend, unfortunately they are not accurate enough to provide the detail you need during a cycle. Hope it works out for you and keep us posted.
 

Bwood22

There is some great advice in this thread....dont panic.

Two items for your shopping list:
API Freshwater Master Test Kit
Seachem Stability

If you feel the need to dose something...use Stability it will help with boosting your fish in cycle.

Im betting that the cloudiness is a hetero trophic bacterial bloom. This is the bacteria that is responsible for breaking down organic waste into ammonia.....its necessary. The nitrosomonas and nitrobacter bacteria are aerobic and usually grow too slow to see a bloom in the water column. But these are the bacteria responsible for nitrification. Once everything stabilizes the cloud will go away.

Don't add anything new to the tank.
Study up on the nitrogen cycle.
And for the sake of your wet pets....find a local fish store or ask us for advice here. Stray away from the big box guys.
 

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