Cichlids for beginner, what's your opinion? 30 Gallon Tank | Page 2

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    Believe me, I'm getting pretty antsy...... :party0049:

    Okay, with additional information, a revised list. How does this sound?

    5 kuhli loaches
    10 rummynose tetras
    1 pair apistogramma agassizi (or possibly GBR's)

    and 6 harlequin rasboras

    Is that good?
     
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    I'm going to my store today I'm bringing my 2 common plecos to put them in their pond. I think they need a more room they are about a foot long each and they are in my 100 gal.
    Lets see what I bring from there. ;D
     
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    Hope you end up with a real treasure.....

    Okay, with additional information, a revised list. How does this sound?

    5 kuhli loaches
    10 rummynose tetras
    1 pair apistogramma agassizi (or possibly GBR's)

    and 6 harlequin rasboras

    Is that good?
     
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    I think that would work quite nicely provided you have adequate filtration & good water change habits. The Harlequins put it in my category of slightly overstocked but it is workable. Maybe an extra water change each week will be needed to handle the extra stock but your test results will let you know if you need to do that. Don't forget to recycle the tank seeing it hasn't bee in use for awhile.
     
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    We'll get new gravel this weekend and begin a cycle. I do have filter material available to me from another tank, so that'll help get things going quickly.

    Thanks for your help.

    I think I'm going to get the kuhlis first , then the rummies, then the cichlids and live with that for a bit to see whether I really do need the rasboras. I've had mid-dwellers before that ended up being up top quite a bit.

    Time will tell.

    We do maintain our tanks with great care and have good filtration but I don't want to overstock either. If the fish are happy, I'm happy. ;)
     
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    Sounds like a good plan of attack. The Rams/Apistos might well chase the Rummies up to the top half anyway if they claim the entire bottom area as thier territory.
     
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    Just when I think I have it all figured out, I get thrown a curveball. Just printed out stat sheets for the above list of fish (minus the rasbora).

    The kuhli loach might not work in this case because his temperature requirements are 79-86 whereas the rummies and cichlids are in the 72-79 range.

    Yoyo's would work, they are in the same range as the other fish. I may go with my fave yoyo's again, after all. :rolleyes:
     
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    I have had kuhlis and rams before and everything was fine at 78-80. I have since gotten rid of the rams and got kribs instead but if you don't get too high in temp I don't think you will have any issues.

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    Thanks, Harry.
     
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    You shouldn't have any problems at 80. I've got Kuhlis & Blue Rams in one of my tanks at 80 without problems so far. (Rams only been in 4-5months)

    If you were to swap to Yoyos you would need to change the stocking all over again. They have a much larger bioload than the Kuhlis.
     
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    As long as the temp won't pose a problem, I'd love to stick with the kuhlis. Thanks, Nutter.
     
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    I just visited the lfs and absolutely fell in love with a krib. He was in with yoyos and seemed to be chasing them around. Can a single krib work with kuhlis?

    Could I still have a small top-mid species like the rummies or serpaes? Honestly, there are just so many fish I'm seeing that I really like.

    If the krib won't work, I saw a lovely medium size angel that I like, too.

    Maybe I should just have someone else choose all of my fish and set up the darn tank so I can stop at all the pretty fish choices.
     
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    bump :whistling:
     
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    A Krib will be fine with Kuhlis as well as the Rummynoses or any other similar size behaviour shoaling fish you would like. Best to keep Kribs as a pair & make sure they have a cave to call home. Like any other cichlid they get a little aggressive when it's breeding time but nothing too dramatic. Best not to have them with Rams in your size tank though if your still thinking of having those as well.
     
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    No! The kribs would be instead of the other cichlids I was thinking about. So, best in a pair, eh? I'm going back to the store after work to look again. I'll see if they have a pair.

    Thanks Nutter! You always come to my rescue! :;hug2
     
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    I agree, kribs are fine. They are pretty similar in size and temperament to apistos and rams so although you can't keep them together in your tank, you can stock the tank the same way whether you go with kribs or rams/apistos.
     
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    Once the kribs get paired up they will spawn like no tommorow. I have never had major aggression problems with my kribs except towards other kribs. They did get territorial during spawning and simply nudged or chased non-kribs away but never hurt anything. I can't say the same for the other kribs.

    I don't know if others had this problem but even in my 55 with plenty of hiding spots and part of the tank blocked I am sure I would have dead kribs in 24 hours from the dominant male chasing and attacking all the other kribs in the tank except the paired female.

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    Hi Harry,

    I did purchase the kribs. By Thursday morning, he was approaching her trying to curve himself around her. Is this some courtship thing? She did her best to not flirt with him.

    As of this morning, however, he's taken to chasing her around the tank some. As I have much to learn about their typical tank behavior, I'll keep taking notes.
     
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    Cool, do you have any pics of your new kribs?
     
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