Changed Color, Is My Pleco Ill ?

Redtail
  • #1
I noticed yesterday morning that my common pleco has somewhat changed its colour between the fins and the body. You can't see it from first sight, only if you look closely.
I have seen many posts in the forum about parasite diseases with the same symptom , so I'm afraid he has something like that and if so, is it dangerous for other fish too?

Water parameters
Nitrites 0
Nitrates 0
Ph 8
GH 11
Co2 11 mg/l
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Kiks
  • #2
What size tank is it in?
And where is your ammonia at?
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
What size tank is it in?
And where is your ammonia at?
It is 130 L . I don't know my ammonia levels I don't have a test for that .
I assumed that the other 6 values I test connect with ammonia and if they are good then ammonia is going to be in a safe levels. :/
 
Kiks
  • #4
It is 130 L . I don't know my ammonia levels I don't have a test for that .
I assumed that the other 6 values I test connect with ammonia and if they are good then ammonia is going to be in a safe levels. :/

That is not the case. In the beginning of the cycle both nitrite and nitrate will sit at 0, but ammonia could easily be way too high.
Did you cycle the tank?
Your pleco needs a much much larger tank. It grows to be 15 - 20 inches.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
That is not the case. In the beginning of the cycle both nitrite and nitrate will sit at 0, but ammonia could easily be way too high.
Did you cycle the tank?
Your pleco needs a much much larger tank. It grows to be 15 - 20 inches.
Ok then I will ask the pet store for ammonia test. I know they become huge , although mine never reach that size I hope this one does. And then I will rehome him in another tank.

I also have one syn catfish a shark and threw guppies , all of them one inch long, and none of them has any symptoms
 
Kiks
  • #6
Fish that are meant to get large but live in way too small tanks will get stunted. This is the reason they never get big. This is also why the idea of buying a fish that is small now but will get large to bring it back to the LFS once it does get too large is a bad idea. By that time it is already stunted so the damage has been done and possibly someone else buys it and gets a fish that’s already in bad health.
When you stock your tank always look up the tank size required for when the fish is fully grown. If that exceeds the tank size you have, you need to choose a different fish.
In your case I would bring back the pleco and anything else that possibly get too big and swap it for something like a bristlenose. They do well in 20 - 30 gallons.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Fish that are meant to get large but live in way too small tanks will get stunted. This is the reason they never get big. This is also why the idea of buying a fish that is small now but will get large to bring it back to the LFS once it does get too large is a bad idea. By that time it is already stunted so the damage has been done and possibly someone else buys it and gets a fish that’s already in bad health.
When you stock your tank always look up the tank size required for when the fish is fully grown. If that exceeds the tank size you have, you need to choose a different fish.
In your case I would bring back the pleco and anything else that possibly get too big and swap it for something like a bristlenose. They do well in 20 - 30 gallons.
To give you a more complete , my pleco in proportion to my tank has this size , as you can see in the photo.
Do you think I can keep him a bit longer? and then maybe give him to a friend of mine with bigger tank
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Kiks
  • #8
You probably can, but I don’t know when they start getting stunted, so personally I’d never buy a fish I knew would get too large. To me it seems best to get it into an appropriate size tank as soon as possible since it’s gonna be moved anyway.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
You probably can, but I don’t know when they start getting stunted, so personally I’d never buy a fish I knew would get too large. To me it seems best to get it into an appropriate size tank as soon as possible since it’s gonna be moved anyway.
I made a new test and here are the results that it gave me. I think the Android app is not so accurate ,but still there seems to be a problem. What do you think
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And these are the results from 3 days ago . I started using a liquid product which is fertilizer and carbon additive, and you have to add it once a week. Is this maybe related ?
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Kiks
  • #10
The only issues I see is that your nitrite isn't 0 and that your pH has fluctuated a lot.
If possible go out today and buy an ammonia test - a liquid one since the strips are pretty inaccurate. If you can afford it buy the entire API freshwater master test kit, it will last you a long time and give you more accurate readings.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
I have posted again about this ,but now I'm convinced that it is a disease that my pleco has. I found a picture in google w a pleco with fin rot that had the exact same white thing near his gills.
Has sbdy had the same symptoms with their pleco? Can this actually be fin rot ?

130 l tank
0 nitrites & nitrates
8 ph
11 GH

Stocking: 1 synodontis, 3 guppies
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DoubleDutch
  • #12
I don't exactly see what you mean. Just in front of the pectoral fins you mean?

BTW : This fish wil outgrow your tank pretty soon.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
I don't exactly see what you mean. Just in front of the pectoral fins you mean?

BTW : This fish wil outgrow your tank pretty soon.
You re right it's really hard to see in golden pleco.
 
Coradee
  • #14
Threads have been merged so all the information is in one place.
 
DoubleDutch
  • #15
I think what you see is the natural coverage /protection / muscle of the finbase. Think those will show equal on both sides.

These fis have an "armour" but the fin base is one of the weakest spots, so Mother Nature knitted some extra protection for those.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
I think what you see is the natural coverage /protection / muscle of the finbase. Think those will show equal on both sides.

These fis have an "armour" but the fin base is one of the weakest spots, so Mother Nature knitted some extra protection for those.
If that's the case then he is all healthy. Good news !!
 
DoubleDutch
  • #17
If that's the case then he is all healthy. Good news !!
To me it is, but as said a 130 litre tank will be to small for this animal.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #18
To me it is, but as said a 130 litre tank will be to small for this animal.
I agree, maybe will be better to rehome him in 180 l tank.
 
DoubleDutch
  • #19
I agree, maybe will be better to rehome him in 180 l tank.
I think that even will be too small.
But there will be other member keeping this fish, so they'll be able to give you a better advise on that.
 
Redtail
  • Thread Starter
  • #20
I think that even will be too small.
But there will be other member keeping this fish, so they'll be able to give you a better advise on that.
Thank you for your advice so far , it was enlightening.
 
DoubleDutch
  • #21
Thank you for your advice so far , it was enlightening.
You're welcome.
 

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