Cauliflower Swordtail

Cauliflower swordtails and sabertails are very popular in Asia. Unlike most bred fancy strains of the Xiphophorus helleri, these two species seem the perfect cross between swordtail and molly when you take a look at their bodyshape. The exact origin remains a question at this very moment.
I myself am keeping the regular cauliflower swordtail. The sword of the male is totally brick red, thick and short in comparison to most male fancy descendants of the Xiphophorus helleri. The sabertail is almost the same with the exception of the shape of the sword. As the name already tells you, the tail has got the shape of a saber.
The cauliflower swordtails are also albino. Overhere, I've really noticed that their eye sight isn't optimal.
It's a great fancy species to look at. Especially the curled and extended dorsal looks gracious on both male and female.

 

Very pretty fish!

Hope to see them in the states at some point.

 

I'm sorry, this is amazing.

 

Very cool fish

 

Very pretty fish!

Hope to see them in the states at some point.

I'm sure they will show up in the States as well...

 

in Grand Rapids, Michigan on May 4-6. If they are in the country, that's the most likely place for them to show up.

 

Makes me wanna go to Grand Rapids next month but that would be a little bit too far for me...

 

Maybe next year, Stan. If I can find the right ear to bend, would you be interested in coming to speak? (That way the plane ticket would be paid for, too!)

 

Wow. I never saw colors that saturated before on a fish. They almost look like molds. I want one.

 

Maybe next year, Stan. If I can find the right ear to bend, would you be interested in coming to speak? (That way the plane ticket would be paid for, too!)

That would be interesting...

Next month we do have our own meeting as well. Couldn't find the time to write an article lately. The deadline for our own magazine has passed already. So, I'll write 1 or 2 articles for the third edition this year.
My article about the Amazon molly (Poecilia formosa) which has been published in the February 2018 edition of Poecilia Netherlands will be translated into german. Soon this article will be published in the Viviparos magazine in Germany.

 

Wow. I never saw colors that saturated before on a fish. They almost look like molds. I want one.

Just one...?

 

There is a seller on aquabid with them right now, they also have the culls from their project for sale (so they may have some recessive genes in play if bred to each other).

 

Anyone know where I can get these bad boys?
I’m in NYC.

 

You could ask if an lfs is doing business with the wholesale dealer Ruinemans. They've got an office in the States as well. They're one of the wholesale dealers which have these cauliflowers. At least, they had them. I don't know there current stock, of course.

 

scarface, overhere a video at the dutch office of Ruinemans.
The link to the american office: Home. And I just checked but at this moment no cauliflowers in their programme.

 

These fish shouldn't be in such fast-running water.

 

Nice video Stan ! My wife tried to make me stop watching it ..That's a lot of tanks !
Not hard to see where you get such great fish from ..Wish you could send me some of those GBR...I started with stock from the Netherlands and wish I could get more.
scarface there is a seller in Thialand [I think] that will ship to the US. From there you need to pay the American trans shipper to get them to you . One of my customers in California has ordered fish from this seller and gave them good reviews also..
They are on AquaBid usually but have no listings at this time..

 

scarface, overhere a video at the dutch office of Ruinemans.
The link to the american office: Home. And I just checked but at this moment no cauliflowers in their programme.

I appreciate the help as well as the video. I guess it's just a waiting game for now. I'm trying to avoid having to pay shipping myself, so hopefully one of my LFSs does business with them.

 

These are the most beautiful swordtails I have ever seen!

 

These fish shouldn't be in such fast-running water.

Agree! This goes for most fish with such fins and a compact body shape. But unfortunately a wholesaler won't pay attention to such aspects.

Nice video Stan ! My wife tried to make me stop watching it ..That's a lot of tanks !
Not hard to see where you get such great fish from ..Wish you could send me some of those GBR...I started with stock from the Netherlands and wish I could get more.
scarface there is a seller in Thialand [I think] that will ship to the US. From there you need to pay the American trans shipper to get them to you . One of my customers in California has ordered fish from this seller and gave them good reviews also..
They are on AquaBid usually but have no listings at this time..

Well, it's not that I purchase fish from wholesalers in general. Most come from other networks. It's even that wholesalers overhere are very interested in people like us to get their hands on rare fish.
I do have to agree that when you see such a number of tanks, it gets to you to have so many tanks as well. Probably you have the same problem as I have → lack of space!

I appreciate the help as well as the video. I guess it's just a waiting game for now. I'm trying to avoid having to pay shipping myself, so hopefully one of my LFSs does business with them.

You could contact the wholesaler if they know a dealer of them in your area.

These are the most beautiful swordtails I have ever seen!

They are beautiful indeed! In Asia these swordtails just like its relative the sabertail are very popular. The sabertail looks almost identical to the cauliflower with the exception of the shape of the sword.

 

They sound stunning! Absolutely stunning! Thank you for sharing them with us!

 

Anybody know where I can get the Cauliflower swordtail fish in US? I was lucky enough to get them at the local store however they can't get them anymore from a breeder in st. Louis. Both males died and only left with females.

Please do point me to a right direction if you know anywhere that sell them.

Thanks!

 

I don't think they'll be sold at every lfs in the US. They're not too common yet.
I assume that they'll be offered on Aquabid.

 

I don't think they'll be sold at every lfs in the US. They're not too common yet.
I assume that they'll be offered on Aquabid.

How much are they selling in your county? I don't think they are expensive at all if you can get them in USA. Not sure why folks aren't breeding these and selling them in the US compared to the popularity of Guppies. I'm planning to start a breeding project of these fish. I just need to find them now.

 

How much are they selling in your county? I don't think they are expensive at all if you can get them in USA. Not sure why folks aren't breeding these and selling them in the US compared to the popularity of Guppies. I'm planning to start a breeding project of these fish. I just need to find them now.

Overhere, they're known but still quite rare. At this point, I've heard that the common price at an lfs would be € 15,00 - € 20,00 each. Some may ask more.

Besides the cauliflower, there's also the saber sword. It's practically the same. Just the shape of the sword is different.
But I don't know what these fish would cost in the US. Could be cheaper or more expensive than overhere but still more expensive than an average sword.

Do you mean swordtails in general or specifically this kind of swordtail that you don't understand that people don't breed them in comparison to guppies? If it's this kind than I do understand. For it's not being sold at an average lfs. And probably the price won't be too friendly in comparison to an average swordtail.

 

Hello All,

I am new to this forum and from India, Mumbai. My interest to join this forum for the lovely Cauliflower Blood Red Sword Tail.

I searched in India but could not get them, just wondering If anyone on the forum can help and advise me with a seller who can ship fish to India, Mumbai

Thanks

Anand Salaskar

 

Hello All,

I am new to this forum and from India, Mumbai. My interest to join this forum for the lovely Cauliflower Blood Red Sword Tail.

I searched in India but could not get them, just wondering If anyone on the forum can help and advise me with a seller who can ship fish to India, Mumbai

Thanks

Anand Salaskar

These cauliflowers are bred in Asia a lot. You should be able to get your hands on some.

 

These cauliflowers are bred in Asia a lot. You should be able to get your hands on some.

Dear Bro, you know any breeder OR suggest any name..

 

Dear Bro, you know any breeder OR suggest any name..

I don't know if you're on facebook as well. But there's a group called : International Xiphophorus Breeder. It's a Fb group by a friend of mine by the name of Rainer Schulz. He also calls himself Rainer Rekord. I'm a member overthere as well. You could ask overthere if someone's willing to ship. For cauliflowers are posted overthere pretty often.

 

Here's a short video I've made of such cauliflower swordtails...

 

I now have cauliflower sabre tail swords and they seem to be very prolific .. I have many fry now ..I need to video my swords ..
I was told they were going to be difficult ? Although I have not had them a long time they don't seem to be much trouble yet .

I don't think they'll be sold at every lfs in the US. They're not too common yet.
I assume that they'll be offered on Aquabid.

I did indeed get mine from AquaBid !

 

 

Good Luck, but keep a close watch on those fry. I hope you get fry that match the parents fins. In the past I've seen the big fin females throw less than stellar fry because someone hit them with a male of another line. Got my fingers crossed that you didn't get taken advantage of.

 

Overhere a tank full of these cauliflower swords...
Made this short video at one of the wholesalers...

Some quick pics I've made of these fish at the wholesaler

 

Hi, I know this is an old thread, but is it possible to find out who this wholesaler is with these beauties

 

I got them off aquabid from a seller called HIGHPH named Bill. Good guy and super nice fish . Heartland Tropicals
I am growing out a boat load of fry but not all are high fin fry ..My buddy in HawaiI says every third spawn ??
I know you are new but what do know ?? They are just starting to sex out now for me at 3-4 months old .. I love swordtails ..
What state are you in ..

 

I am actually from Canada. Its a bit of a pain trying to bring in fish into the country as shipping is super expensive and there are a few regulations to follow. I tried to actually buy some off of Aquabid the other day but the guy would not work with me. I actually had these guys years ago and they were all giant beauties at a length of at least 3 inches. I ve looked for years in Canada and have not been able to find anything close to these. We just don't have the selection that you have down south

 

You close to Maine ??

 

No, 1 hour from the Montana border. I did find some in California but the guy would not ship, and I can understand as there are some hassles involved shipping north. Its easier for me to cross the border and just carry them across then try and ship across the border. But a drive to Maine from here would be like 3 days driving

 

Hi, I know this is an old thread, but is it possible to find out who this wholesaler is with these beauties

This wholesaler is called Ruinemans. They do have an office in the States as well.

 

This wholesaler is called Ruinemans. They do have an office in the States as well.

Unfortunately their site says they won't sell to individuals though, only to retailers. I discovered them (online) some time ago while searching for uncommon corys, and found their restriction when trying to register.

Might be able to get an LFS to order from them for you, though.

 

Thanks, I will look into it. I have tried LFS before and the ones here always get the plain red velvet ones in. Most places I have inquired to personally in the states usually will not ship to Canada. I am looking at trying to ship directly from Indonesia as they seem to have a lot of these type there. Just a little worried on the cost side.

 

I wasn't suggesting a trip to Miane..I live in NY..
But I have a customer / buddy who lives just over the boarder [your side ] but works everyday in Maine .
I ship fish to him at work and he drives them home..Figured if you were close I would hit him up ..
Look for a good transhipper for importing ..

 

Hey no worries. If my wife would let me I would literally drive to Maine. Thank you for trying to help tho, much appreciated! I have contacted 2 Tran shippers so far and the one that got back to me said they do not have access to these fish.

Thanks for that. Have not had much luck with the local stores. They just bring in the regular velvet swords

 

Unfortunately their site says they won't sell to individuals though, only to retailers. I discovered them (online) some time ago while searching for uncommon corys, and found their restriction when trying to register.

Might be able to get an LFS to order from them for you, though.

That´s an option to order it through an lfs. Me myself have purchased them at the dutch headquarters itself. Certain species that they have are provided by a good friend of mine. And he had them from me or I´ve arranged it that he got them. He breeds them in mass production and provides Ruinemans and some other wholesalers with these livebearers.

Thanks, I will look into it. I have tried LFS before and the ones here always get the plain red velvet ones in. Most places I have inquired to personally in the states usually will not ship to Canada. I am looking at trying to ship directly from Indonesia as they seem to have a lot of these type there. Just a little worried on the cost side.

Well, shipping and insurance costs can be high. The cauliflower and the saber version are widely bred in different asian countries.

 

You are lucky being overseas and having the connections. There seems to be so much more selection there then here. I know a guy here that brought in L236 Saltwater pleco s from Germany in but at a huge cost as there are no breeders here yet. I have friends that go to Holland every year, maybe I’ll try and hit them up to bring me back some fish

Scratch the saltwater, I don’t even know what autocorrect was correcting

Figured it out it was supposed to say L236 super white plecos

 

I happen to be planning a trip for 3 /21 to a fish store that has the L236 now !
More expensive for ONE medium then my group of 5 L046 [ which were not cheap !] !
L236 Super White (Hypancistrus sp.)LIMITED QUANTITIES
I looked at them last time but really prefer the L046 ..

 

You are lucky being overseas and having the connections. There seems to be so much more selection there then here. I know a guy here that brought in L236 Saltwater pleco s from Germany in but at a huge cost as there are no breeders here yet. I have friends that go to Holland every year, maybe I’ll try and hit them up to bring me back some fish

Scratch the saltwater, I don’t even know what autocorrect was correcting

Figured it out it was supposed to say L236 super white plecos

An acquaintance of mine comes over from Canada (Montreal) each year to visit her family. She's dutch but lives in Canada. When she's here, she visits me, some other breeders and a number of stores. The fish she's collected overhere will be taken to Canada. She does that every year. That's a lot cheaper than a special shipment.

Yes, in Europe there's much more choice in the commercial and rare livebearer species in comparison to the States and Canada. When I used to live in Canada I haven't seen that much diversity. Same goes when I've visited the States for a couple of times.

 

There are a lot of farmers that came over from Holland in my area. They bring a lot of equipment over but in giant shipping containers. Fish probably won‘t make the 1 or 2 month journey. I‘ll have to mention it to my friends in passing as they usually go for a month and its to visit family. Most likely I’ll bite the bullet and ship it myself and hope they make it over.

 

I happen to be planning a trip for 3 /21 to a fish store that has the L236 now !
More expensive for ONE medium then my group of 5 L046 [ which were not cheap !] !

I looked at them last time but really prefer the L046 ..

Have you seen the L236 SW. They are super beautiful with a mostly white body and black squiggles. If they were not 750.00 I would grab them in a minute. I have the reg L236 that bred for me and all I get are the brown ones and some yellow ones.