Can several water conditioners be added to my tank at once?

Meludox
  • #1
I'm starting out a new freshwater tank for a betta fish that I'm going to get soon, and will be using a few API products to get the nitrogen cycle started, as well as conditioners that will be added when I change the water. It kinda seems like a lot chemicals that I'll be putting into the water, so I was just wondering if these different things can all be added to a 6 gallon tank without it being harmful to the fish?
To start the cycle:

For treating the water:
  • Prime by Seachem
  • API Ammo-carb (My ammonia levels were dreadfully high when I checked the water today)
  • API Aquariam salt
  • API Bettafix
 
sunnypsy0p
  • #2
There is absolutely no reason why you should have to put Melaleuca (BettaFix, a diluted version of Melafix) in the water regularly. This is a treatment for a sick fish, not a "maintenance" med for a healthy one. Important to have that stuff in the unfortunate event that your fish may become ill, just don't be dumping it in the tank with every water change, there's no need for it.

Aquarium salts are not necessarily a regular maintenance thing either. I only ever used them to treat certain ailments in fish while they were in quarantine. Hopefully someone with a fresher memory on all this stuff will come along soon to help you further, as I am just getting back into the hobby and a lot of my knowledge has gathered some dust over the years. :3

As a reminder, don't add the QuickStart (I'm assuming this is the API brand equivalent to Tetra's SafeStart) to the water at the same time as Prime or whatever dechlorinator/water conditioner. You need to add the SafeStart 24 hrs after you treat the water with water conditioner. I just made that mistake recently and had to go get another bottle of SafeStart after promptly killing the cultures with water conditioner. Oops.
 
Meludox
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
I know that the Bettafix isn't supposed to be added daily, I just didn't want to make a new category for one product. ^^
 
sunnypsy0p
  • #4
In that case, I don't see any reason why your list would be 'harmful,' provided everything is used properly. It looks like a lot of stuff at first glance, but when you separate what you put in a QT tank for a sick fish from the stuff you just put in the water on a regular basis (Prime), there's really not a whole lot of stuff you're putting in the water long-term.

Edit: I don't really have any experience with Stress Zyme but I do have a sample packet here, which says it "consumes sludge in the gravel bed" and boosts the biological filter. In a new tank you shouldn't really have any sludge in the substrate? Hopefully someone who has used this particular product can chime in.
 
Meludox
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Oh, well I actually do have "sludge" / it begins to accumulate because I have 2 ivory snails and I give them algae rounds. As the algae rounds break down, bits of it get stuck in the substrate. I'm not sure if that would really be considered as sludge though.
 
aylad
  • #6
I've used Stress Zyme. Stay away from it. It does more harm than good in a tank where the cycle isn't fully established, and I'm not convinced it's useful at all even in tanks where the cycle is stable.

Gravel vacuuming is the way to go here. The usual rule of thumb in this hobby is: if you can replace a chemical with good ol' fashioned getting-your-hands-dirty, it's probably a good idea to leave the chemical out.

I wouldn't use Quick Start, either, and I would take the Ammo-Carb out as soon as ammonia levels drop. Same reasons: you really want your cycle to establish naturally.
 
Meludox
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Alright..and actually I have a fewmore questions as I was doing some research last night-- I'm thinking of getting Tetra SafeStart to make the water immediately safe because I've had some difficulties with getting the nitrogen cycle started before. So if I add the TSS, will that eliminate the use of the aquarium salt, and Ammo-carb?
 
aylad
  • #8
To go with TSS, you'll need to do a massive water change to get your ammonia as near to 0 as possible. You'll definitely need to leave out the Ammo-Carb. I think it should work with salt, but I agree with earlier comments that salt isn't something you should be putting in your tank without good reason anyway.
 

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