Can I Turn Off My Filter?

Discussion in 'Freshwater Beginners' started by Z123Killer, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    I decided to go with fishless cycling with using pure ammonia only but my ammonia is not arriving till monday or tuesday; however, I started my aquarium and added the substrate and water. Can I leave my filter off with a full tank and only have my air pump running till the ammonia arrives?
     
  2. MaddieTaylah

    MaddieTaylah Well Known Member Member

    Yes you can leave your filter off until you begin your cycle once your ammonia arrives.
     
  3. OP
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    Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    Would it be ok if I let water sit in it for a couple of days? Because I turned it on to see how it would work and now there is water inside.
     




  4. MaddieTaylah

    MaddieTaylah Well Known Member Member

    It will be fine.
     
  5. OP
    OP
    Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    Ok, thank you for all the help today.
     
  6. BeanFish

    BeanFish Well Known Member Member

    Oh dear, what are you doing!
    Turn on the filter and add fish food, it will also help, once your ammonia arrives you can use that instead.
    Fish food contains some phosphates and stuff the bacteria may enjoy.
    You may develop some biofilm in the water if you let it stagnant for too much time.
     
  7. OP
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    Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    The fish food will arrive after the ammonia so that wouldn't be an option but I heard it is unpredictable and I should only rely on ammonia instead.
     
  8. BeanFish

    BeanFish Well Known Member Member

    Pee on the tank LOL. (joke it may mess up your tank lol)
    Any piece of food should do it. And while you dont know for sure how many ammonia you are dosing with fish food you should not worry, it is common belief that bacteria will die if your ammonia is too high but I dont think it is true, there are guys out there growing BB at 20-80 ppm of ammonia.
    I would just drop something in there to rot and start the cycling process but that is because patience is not my thing, if you can wait then Kudos to you!
     
  9. Thunder_o_b

    Thunder_o_b Fishlore VIP Member

    Only use clear ammonia. Do not use fish food.

    Using food is messy, smells, is imprecise and takes for ever. Ammonia if done right takes 7-12 days.

    Do not forget to get a good quality bacteria like  
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017
  10. OP
    OP
    Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    Do I need bacteria, or would ammonia be enough?
     
  11. BeanFish

    BeanFish Well Known Member Member

    He can use food to speed up the cycle and then dose ammonia.
    Depends, I would just wait until the bacteria grows cause there is no way I am paying for bottled bacteria lol.
    But that is just me, Mr. Krabs :cool:
     
  12. AllieSten

    AllieSten Fishlore VIP Member

    I used Stability for my fish-in cycle and was cycled in 12 days. Most of us use some sort of bottled bacteria to jumpstart their cycle. Either Stability or Tetra Safe Start. It is totally up to you.
     
  13. BottomDweller

    BottomDweller Fishlore VIP Member

    I used fish food instead of ammonia to cycle my tank but you could also use something like a dead shrimp. It would be better than nothing until the ammonia arrives.
     
  14. Thunder_o_b

    Thunder_o_b Fishlore VIP Member

    Clear ammonia with a starter bacteria.

    EDIT: sorry for all the edits.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017
  15. MaddieTaylah

    MaddieTaylah Well Known Member Member

    You're welcome.
     
  16. PaulaMPi

    PaulaMPi Valued Member Member

    I left mine filled but off for a several days (before I had my filter set up completely), and it got slightly greasy looking swirls on the top (assume it was biofilm). I removed most of it just by filling and dumping a cup several times. Then I wanted to add some more water to top off the tank when it was finally time to cycle, and had to do Prime again, and made sure to wait at least 24-hours after Prime before starting TSS+ with the ammonia.
     
  17. OP
    OP
    Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    Thank you for the info. So it'll take about 4 more days for my ammonia to arrive, when the ammonia does arrive, would you recommend dosing the whole tank again with Stress coat or no?
     
  18. PaulaMPi

    PaulaMPi Valued Member Member

    I'm still a newbie, so I'm not very familiar with all the different products. My understanding is if the water is dechlorinated already, you don't have to do it again. (I needed to add more water, which needed to be dechlorinated...) TSS+ specifically says you have to wait 24 hours after using Prime (dechlorinator), but if you're not adding water, you shouldn't have to re-dose it (assuming you already have done it). And also, if you're using different products, the directions will will probably be different :)
     
  19. OP
    OP
    Z

    Z123Killer Well Known Member Member

    Well I added about 27 gallons of water and dosed for the whole tank (29 gallons) ad today in the morning I added these 2 extra gallons without dechlorinating them.
     
  20. PaulaMPi

    PaulaMPi Valued Member Member

    If you added more water, you need to add more dechlorinator - no amount of chlorine/chloramines is good for the BB or fish :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2017




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