Can I rant for a minute? I've had a bad fish day...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by riptide904, Jan 6, 2013.

  1. riptide904Valued MemberMember

    Today I went to pick up a new tank from Petco, but unfortunately that meant having to go with my mother and eleven year-old sister as well, who know about as much about fish as they do about quantum physics. When we were about to leave, my sister finds a female betta she reallyreallyabsolutelyhadtoget. Only issue it, my current tropical tank is having problems with ammonia and nitrite levels and really shouldn't have more fish until that's fixed (I've been holding off on more guppies for this exact reason), though every time I attempted to explain this to either of them I was simply met with a blank stare and more begging. Of course, my mom sided with her and I had to pay for it, on top of the $80 I just paid for a tank. :no2:

    We get home only to find that the one of the current tank inhabitants, a black molly, is shaking rather violently with what I could only guess was the shimmies. The only advice I got was to dose the tank with aquarium salt, which it turns out bettas are not very tolerant of. Seeing as they refuse to bring the betta back to the store, they are now attempting to put it in with the goldfish, who luckily are kept in mid-seventies temperature. I can only think of this ending in disaster (the cup is still floating in the tank,so I have no idea what's gonna happen.) At least we get to move the goldfish to a bigger tank next week, but I still don't know what to do with the betta then...

    Anyway, on top of this I got to see a Petco employee sell a pair of kids seven comet goldfish and a five gallon tank (The stupidity! It buuuuurrrrnnnnssss!) and I still have to figure out how to fix my tank. Please kill me:'(
     
  2. ZiggiWell Known MemberMember

    Personally, I would have taken the opportunity to introduce your mom/sister to the fish world by telling her to grab a cheap 2.5-5 gallon tank (just something small to get them started, you could work them into an upgrade) that she can keep in her room on her desk or something.

    Sorry you had a rough day :console: Try to stay positive! *models your new tank* lookit at the neeeeeewwwwwwwwwnnnneeeeeessssssss!!! oooooOOOOOOOOooooooo! :D
     




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  3. oscarsbudWell Known MemberMember

    That made my head hurt just reading about it. Do you have a small container you can keep the betta in until you can talk them into getting a regular tank for him? I kept Simon in a large pretzel container for almost a month until I got him a real tank. I used filter media from one of the other tanks and made a makeshift filter using that, an airstone and some sponge. Even a large Tupperware type container will do.

    As Ziggi said, try to get them to understand what is needed to keep a fish like that. I'm sure your sister will really enjoy it when she gets to keep one in her own room.
     




  4. ButterflyModeratorModerator Member

    Baring everything else You can get a rubbermaid container at the dollar store for just a few dollars that will do as a tank for now. then you can deal with your sick tank.
    Sorry you've had a bad day.
    carol
     




  5. JDcichlidloverWell Known MemberMember

    I just let anything my nonfishyfamily has to say about fish in one ear and out the other. mom's been getting better. she has a 15 in her classroom that i stocked for her. but she paid for the fish and has been doing regular water changes like i told her. and using Prime :D

    My Petco is like that on the weekends. during the week the fish specialist is usually there. he has 7 tanks. 2 of which are saltwater. our gm has 2 salt and 1 fresh. and I have the cichlids. the other two like community tanks lol. but stupid college kids work weekends and don't know a thing about fish. I hate going in there on days off...

    I'm sorry you had a bad day, rant away :D
     
  6. kellyiswickedValued MemberMember

    I guess my boyfriend was one of those "stupid college kids" who didn't know anything about fish, even though he spent his free time reading up on different fish species and compatibility. But his supervisors would override him if he didn't want to sell a fish to a person who was ill equipped for it.

    I took a little offense to this - if the employee wanted to know about fish, they would learn. Plenty of the "adults" working there know nothing either. And most of the time it's the fault of the managers, who think they have knowledge but really believe whatever the corporation puts on the fish labels. I would ask that you don't blame the "stupid college kids" who have not been taught any better and really do mean well. Maybe bring the problem to the attention of the management - it is their responsibility to make sure their employees are knowledgeable.
     
  7. ZiggiWell Known MemberMember

    It may make you feel better just getting it off of your chest!
     
  8. JDcichlidloverWell Known MemberMember

    no. the point is that our stupid college kids Don't Care. they don't want to learn. our dog trainer, a college kid (very smart actually) will sell a fish doing its death spiral and tell the customers its normal. so yeah. I don't like going in when people who don't care and don't want to learn about fish are selling them.

    and don't take offense. its a rant session for riptide. like I said before. our gm and aquatics specialist are fishy people. fish are not furniture to them. so why would the gm not pay attention to employees who don't know anything selling fish. our gm has refused sales to people before. like goldies going in a 20 gal. most managers would say ok thats fine. he flat out refused and talked to them about neon tetras...
     
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  9. ZiggiWell Known MemberMember

    Please remember, every store is different, local fish or chain pet stores alike ... actually all stores. Dont take offense because you're (boyfriend's) situation is different than whats described. Especially since it's a wee off the topic of the original poster :) It's a shame that he's dealing with that, and I'd take it to the boss or show them they're wrong if that is the case ... but I have a ego and a HUGE "I told ya so" type attitude that gets me in trouble when I'm right...

    actually ... wouldn't that mean your boyfriend is NOT a "kid" (see ... the ones I deal with aren't in college... -_-; I think they're worse) ?
     
  10. klogue2Valued MemberMember

    I don't want to go off-topic but being a student (not college but still) I also take offence to this. You can't speak for every college or student out there; I'm in high school and a lot of the members on this site are students of some sort. We're all trying to learn how to properly care for our fish and make them happy.
    I'm sorry you feel our students are "stupid", but I don't think that gives you the right to take it out on us... I do agree a lot of kids go straight from high school to college, some just to please their parents, and then they drop out because it's too hard or they just don't want to do it. But I also know there's plenty of college students out there who really want to learn and move forward in life.
     
  11. kellyiswickedValued MemberMember

    This is my last comment on the topic: if the management cared about the fish, they would ensure that their employees were knowledgeable. My boyfriend worked at PetSmart. So I have some understanding of how it works, and what they are taught, which is negligible. Have you worked there?

    Blame the organization that allows them to sell fish, thinking they know enough to give good advice, because that's where the problem truly lies. If it is a problem at your store, bring it to the attention of the management and maybe changes will be made. If you'd rather just rant behind a screen name, nothing will ever change. I wish you the best with your substandard store policies, and hope for those fishies that you choose to bring it to the attention of the people that can make changes. :)
     
  12. riptide904Valued MemberMember

    True, I often do hate the big stores simply because they don't care about their fish. But even the local stores do it, as one salesgirl told me that the pale, limp betta at the bottom of the cup was "just resting". I don't buy from them anymore.

    The goldies don't seem to care much about the new fish, they're too focused on whether or not we're going to feed them. The best solution we could figure was to let her take over the old goldfish tank once I get them moved up (I cannot wait to start decorating, there's so much I want to do!) and keep her betta with some tetras and such. It's a bummer for me, of course, I wanted to try kuhli loaches or something there, but I think it's good she can learn how to "participate" in fish keeping instead of whining when I ask her to carry a bucket outside.
     
  13. JDcichlidloverWell Known MemberMember

    omg. I'm not talking about All students. Do you really think I'm that mean? I'm talking about the specific ones that work in my store. they Don't care about fish. the new old guy who works with me during the week and has never had fish in his life pays more attention than the college kids. he at least tries to make sure they go to good homes. pretty sure I walk him down the isles and tell him what the min tank size is for each fish once a week lol. and if he doesn't know if he should sell them he finds the gm, fish specialist or me. the kids who work the weekends don't give a flying hoot. they'll sell ten fancy goldies to someone with a 5 gallon tank that hasn't even been cycled. And if we're slow and I start talking fish they don't listen. they just start talking about something else. they DO NOT CARE. fish are furniture.
     
  14. klogue2Valued MemberMember

    Oh, I'm sorry, I must have misunderstood. I'm a little slow sometimes haha :) My last post on this topic.

    Glad you've got a plan riptide! I'm sure everything will turn out fine in the end.
     
  15. ZiggiWell Known MemberMember

    If you want to take offense you can, but honestly, if the statement doesn't apply to you then why take offense? The statements (mine and JDs) were directed to those that DONT care and ARE NOT there to learn... it's directed to those X people (of all ages) that just want the paycheck and got the job at the store... or atleast mine was. Please no mountians out of mole hills, especially when the topic is not the one we're discussing.

    There's my rant :)
     
  16. JDcichlidloverWell Known MemberMember

    sorry kellyiswicked and klogue2 . I didn't mean to go off. You guys had me flustered. I don't enjoy offending people.

    too bad she stole your ten gallon:( maybe she should buy you another one :D
     
  17. ZiggiWell Known MemberMember

    Maybe you'll get lucky and you can get her to "practice" water changes on all your tanks :) or some other grunt work? Your little apprentice! :D

    And this gives the opportunity for another tank? maybe?? :;dk yeah ... I need to stop spreading MTS on everyone else -_-; contagious condition!!!
     
  18. AvaValued MemberMember

    An apprentice - what a wonderful idea! That would be an awesome way for you and your sister to share the wonderful world of fishkeeping.

    I think you mean an opportunity for another BIGGER tank. :D Hey, if we're gonna do this MTS thing - we've got to commit to it!
     
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