Can Apistogramma Cacatuoides, Bolivian and/or german blue ram, and Angelfish be in the same tank?

Nathantics
  • #1
I have a 180 gallon bowfront that used to house a 6" bichir a pleco and 5 Angels. Though I still have the angels, I ended up selling the bichir and the pleco as I have decided to move away from monster sized fish. I was wondering if I could introduce a pair of apistos and german blue rams (or bolivians depending on which is more compatable. I am planning on a large school of rummy noses to be my dither fish, but I really want another pop of character in the tank and I know that they don't get very big.
 

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SnookusFish
  • #2
Bolivians and angels will work. And with enough visual blocks and surface area on the base for territories some apistos should work too. Just be careful introducing them, especially the tetras, make sure the angels know its not food
 

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jake37
  • #3
The apistogramma like to stay near the bottom. I have 5 little one in a 40B; the lit i've read is that they can nip angels fins though in a 180 gallon tank i suspect they will stake out a corner somewhere (esp if you put a nice cave there) and pretty much stay in that area.
 
jake37
  • #4
So how did it turn out?
 
Nataku
  • #5
Bolivians are actually not the correct choice to go with angels, they like it colder than angels do. German Blue rams are the more compatible species to go with angels, keep the tank in the 82-84 range for happy angels and GBRs. Bolivians prefer it colder, 72-76, which is too cold for angels.

You could also go with some of the apisto species that are fine in warmer water like a. Macmasteri, a. Cacautuoides, a. Agasizzi and a. Hongsloi. Although to be fair, most apistos will be fine in warmer water.
 
jake37
  • #6
You can keep angels at 76 to 78. Also most apistogramma do better and 76-78 range. Apistogramma are actually quite robust.
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A couple of interesting alternatives to consider:
pelvicachromis subocellatus
and
pelvicachromis taeniatus
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I currently have apistogramma cacatuoides and apistogramma hongsloi as well as a pair of kribs. I don't recommend the kribs - they are vicious monsters though in all honestly now that they have kids to raise they've calmed down and stopped biting the tails off of everyone.
 
Nathantics
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
So how did it turn out?
Pretty well. I only got angels and apistos and they've been living pretty decently with each other, but I didn't get german blues simply because I feel that they're too delicate for my water parameters
 
FishBoy101
  • #8
Pretty well. I only got angels and apistos and they've been living pretty decently with each other, but I didn't get german blues simply because I feel that they're too delicate for my water parameters
Well, good luck with the tank!!!!!!
 

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