Can Anyone Identify The Disease I'm Dealing With.

Discussion in 'Freshwater Fish Disease' started by Gary1962, Apr 6, 2019.

  1. Gary1962Valued MemberMember

    I need some help and advice please.

    My fish have continued to die, one by one, over a period of weeks.

    Despite large water changes and a course of Sera Baktopur anti bacterial treatment.

    If you can see from the picture, the fish develop thickened white looking pectoral fins, not long before they pass away.

    They then die suddenly, often without any other visible disease.

    Any ideas welcome - getting desperate. IMG_20190405_195741578.jpg
  2. WhitewolfWell Known MemberMember

    You'll need to tell us more about your tank and the symptoms of the sick fish if you want a good answer.
    Cant really see the picture,
    Is the tank cycled?
  3. miss.miknValued MemberMember

    Yes, we definitely need more information about the tank.

    How many gallons is it?

    Is it cycled?

    What is your ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate reading?

    What is the temperature of the tank?

    What fish and how many of each are in the tank?

    Can you try to get a better picture so it’s easier to see what’s wrong with the fish?
  4. Gary1962Valued MemberMember

    @Whitewolf - here's all I have, on the Fishlore template:

    What is the water volume of the tank?

    180 Litre = 47 US Gal
    How long has the tank been running?
    8 months
    Does it have a filter?
    Eheim ecco pro 200, plus Juwel Bioflow 3.0 with a 600 powerhead.
    Does it have a heater?
    JBL 200 Watts
    What is the water temperature?
    25-26 c
    What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
    8 Harleys, 7 Cardinals, 6 Corys, 4 Kuhli Loaches, 7 Amano Shrimp & 1 Starlight Pleco.

    How often do you change the water?

    How much of the water do you change?
    What do you use to treat your water?
    Seachem Prime
    Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water?
    Substrate (sand)

    *PARAMETERS - Very Important
    Did you cycle your tank before adding fish?

    What do you use to test the water?
    API Master Test Kit
    What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.
    : 0
    Nitrite: 0
    Nitrate: 5 (tap 40!)
    pH: 8.2

    How often do you feed your fish?

    Twice daily
    How much do you feed your fish?
    Two pinches per feed. Plus 1 Pleco tablet nightly. Occasional bloodworm.
    What brand of food do you feed your fish?
    JBL Novo Bits, King British Bloodworm and Pleco Tablets
    Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?

    How long have you had this fish?

    About 2 years.
    Of the other 11 fish that have died over the past 4 weeks: 5 Harleys, resident for about 2 years. 4 Cardinals, resident about 6 months. 1 Kuhli Loach, resident about 6 months. A male Betta also died recently, having had suspected Dropsy.
    How long ago did you first notice these symptoms?
    For his fish, about 7-10 days ago.
    In a few words, can you explain the symptoms?
    One of this Harleys pectoral fins appears thickened. An opaque (milky) white colour.
    Have you started any treatment for the illness?
    Yes, a large (50%) water change 7 days ago. Then a course of Sera Baktopur (a German anti-bacterial fluid).
    Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?
    How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all?
    See symptoms
    Explain your emergency situation in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)
    Since introducing 6 new Harleys to the tank about 4 weeks ago, my fish have begun to die, one by one. Most of the Harleys had one or more fins which developed the same symptoms described above. They all died within a few days of showing these symptoms. I don’t have space for a quarantine tank. But these 6 new Harleys still all appear to be perfectly healthy. A specialist local retailer told me that the supplier for the UK national chain store I bought these from (Pets at Home) do NOT quarantine their fish.
    Last edited: Apr 7, 2019
  5. WhitewolfWell Known MemberMember

    Bacterial infections are usually secondary to other problems, parasites
    Try to find "meds" to cover your bases for parasites
    Do they "flash" or scratch on stuff, do they have stringy white poop?
    Is the body covered in white mucus?

    I don't know much about UK meds, but having copper or some other ick med might help.
    I think it might be flukes, this is usually the parasite you can't see that causes fish to get sick and die.
    Praziquentel or formalin kills flukes.
    Have to treat several times, a week apart