10 Gallon Tank Camallanus worms? So scared please help

Oh gosh im so scared.

I got in some new endlers for my tank a few weeks ago.

What is the water volume of the tank? 10 gallons
How long has the tank been running? 2 months
Does it have a filter? Yes Aquaclear 30
Does it have a heater? Yes
What is the water temperature? 82
What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.) Several neocaridina shrimp, two mystery snails, a lot of small snails (5-8), 8 endlers livebearers All male, one male betta.

Maintenance
How often do you change the water? Once a week
How much of the water do you change? 50%
What do you use to treat your water? Prime
Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water? Substrate

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish? Yes
What do you use to test the water? API master test kit
What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.
Ammonia: TBD
Nitrite: TBD
Nitrate: TBD
pH: TBD
(Will test soon after this post)
Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? once to twice a day
How much do you feed your fish? As much as they can eat in around 30ish seconds
What brand of food do you feed your fish? Bug bites, Aquatic arts flakes
Do you feed frozen? Yes daphnia and bloodworms For my betta occasionally
Do you feed freeze-dried foods? No

Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish? The newest endlers came in about 3 two weeks ago, the others A few months ago, the betta around a month and half
How long ago did you first notice these symptoms? tonight
In a few words, can you explain the symptoms? Bloated, large whitish brown red worm thing coming from one of my endlers
Have you started any treatment for the illness? No
Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase? No? They were shipped so a little ugly from stress but not ill
How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all? Bloated no behavior change

Explain your emergency situation in detail.
(Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)

Feed fish. was trying to give more to one who hasne’t been doing well Since i got him, he has been dull emaciated a little and hiding. Thought he was dead earlier because i couldnt find him. He is doing better. I will call him from batch 3.

One of my batch 2 guys was bloated and had this big worm thing hanging from him.

Other batch 2 guy Seemed to have a small worm but couldnt tell.

A batch 3 guy now seems a little bloated as well.

The bloated batch 2 guy seemed to almost have fish diarrhea. White powder from his anus???? Or maybe i’m crazy he is erratic now. He seems to be devolving a red stripe i didnt seem to notice before. As well as the other batch 2 guy and a batch 3 guy devoloping a red dot on his back near his dorsal fin


The first picture is the bloated worm holding batch two guy. He no longer has a worm on him.

The betta seems bloated now too. Could this be because of the extra food? Or am i really unlucky? Watched the bloated batch 2 guy poop out a worm.

There seems to be more agression between the endlers. They are bullying each other quite a bit right now.

Don’t think it is camallanus worms now? It’s big singular worms not a lot of small ones. So i’m guessing its just A regular parasite?

Thanks in advance. My gosh this is a pain in the Butt

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Hard to tell from pic. If it looks like a worm get a dewormer. Praxi-pro will work. May have put the fishin a qt tank to medicate. Don’t think these meds are good with snails or shrimp.

 

Will general cure work? It has some of the same ingredients right?

I would have to put shrimp and snails in a different tank rather than fish. Nothing okay for fish to put in rn.

It is not camallanus right?

I turned out the light for the night but can turn it back on. What would you Recomend doing tonight? I have school tomorrow so cant do anything until 3pm tomorrow. (We in same time zone)

 

Hi, yes this is why I always treat for parasites with new fish. Seems like so many of them arrive with parasites of some kind. General Cure if it has praziquantel and metroplex is the perfect treatment. Start tonight and do the whole tank. I’ve never had issues with praziquantel and inverts. In fact I used it in my cherry shrimp tank awhile back when I had deitrus worms.

 

Should I do a water change? the light is out and I dont know if it would stress them? This is day 6 or 7 of schedule so I dont want to push it if since I believe it is a little overstocked. Should I WC and dose tonight or wait until tomorrow afterNoon and do a WC then dose? Or will i be okay if Im a few days late on the WC?

On a funny note you are the reason I was pretty sure API general cure had that in it.

YAY its a easy dose…

 

Test your tank, if ammonia and nitrite are 0 and nitrate is below 20, honestly I’d dose tonight. Getting rid of the worms is the priority right now. Do a WC after the first round.

If you have any ammonia or nitrite though then I’d say to first do a water change before dosing.

Make sure to remove carbon.

Yeah I thought I had you get that.

 

Yup okay will do right now

What about the red markings? Those are new. Definitely not normal

 

Not sure about the markings but at this point I’d say its related to the parasites.

 

Got it thanks. I tested water and it was 0-.25 ammonia. 0 nitrite 5-15 nitrate. I dosed the first round of General cure and we will see what happens.

 

Urrrgh this morning i went downstairs and looked in. All but one of my endlers was just laying on the sand. Betta was chilling in the back. Whatever it is they seem quite a bit worse than the betta. Thought they were all dead. Not sure which ones might be dead. This is a pain

 

Sorry to hear that. Treatment may have been too late if they were over ridden with worms. That said, if any are alive they won’t be feeling good as the de-wormer works and starts killing the worms which they then will need to expel. Even with flukes they usually will slow way down with any activity for a day or so. Then they usually perk up. I’ve never treated for worms but can’t imagine they are feeling good. I wouldn’t order from that seller again though thats for sure. You might be better off going to a fish store. They at least purchase from large farms and I would “guess” they treat prophylactically for best health before shipping.

 

That’s a shame as they were a pretty good seller… they Claim they quarantine before selling and I think they do. That makes sense, thanks I hope They do okay. And at the very least I hope my betta lives. Not that I don’t care about my endlers. I think all the fish stores near me are less than wonderful or too far away

 

I had fish for 3 months before parasites showed up. Quarantine only gets you so far. A good idea, but not a cure all.

 

Fed them today. saw that one was bloated. But he had literally seconds before eaten too much food. But his scales seemed slightly popped out. If he has dropsy I will scream will post a good picture soon

 

Fed them today. saw that one was bloated. But he had literally seconds before eaten too much food. But his scales seemed slightly popped out. If he has dropsy I will scream will post a good picture soon

Were any of them dead the other morning when you found them lying on the sand?

 

Thankfully no all alive as far as i can tell. Acting stressed/strange though. Cant get a pic of the one I’m worried about. Never stops moving. I will try again later

I hope I was overreacting but we will see tomorrow

 

Haha no dropsy. I overreact when it comes to my fish a lot.

,mine arentthat blue but getting there. in the pics you can see individual scales. A just panicked because I didn’t look close enough

 

Oh ok. You started treatment with the General Cure right?

 

Yup. Tomorrow night is the WC at the end of the dosage.

 

How many days is that? I’d do a 2nd round after your WC tomorrow night, you want to make sure you kill off all the worms and any that have hatched.

 

Okay will Do. Thanks for the help. If they eat even a little bit they become bloated. I assume that’s still part of worms? Or should I be worried?

 

I did the water change and started the second round. Every one alive and doing okay nothing super weird but still acting a little off

 

So I have to do the WC at the end of dosgae one day early or several days late. What should I do

 

I’d do several days late. I don’t think it will harm anyone to leave the medicine in longer it will probably become inert.

 

Okay thanks, it is supposed to be done tonight technically I might be able to have my dad do it. But probably no.

 

I was taking a look at my tank and noticed two endlers had worms hanging out of their anus. Is that just them “disposing” of the worms or are they still sick? It’s been about a week since the end of the second treatment

 

I‘d do another round of treatments. You followed the instructions and did the full dosing right?

 

Yes I did the full dose twice

i am out of general cure. I will have to get more later today or as soon as I can if you think I should. They act fine and eat still. Expect for the one who was always nt okay. I dont know what to do about him.

 

Maybe get Hikari Prazi Pro instead this time if they have it.

 

Not to argue but I have read about the worms coming out after they are dead? Do you think that’s unlikely?

 

Not to argue but I have read about the worms coming out after they are dead? Do you think that’s unlikely?

They do come out after they are dead though it surprises me it would take this long I guess. You can always wait and see….

 

I’ve heard of it taking months… I might be wrong

 

I posted a while ago about seeing an apparently dead tapeworm coming out of my CPD something like 4-6 weeks post treatment. I haven't noticed any other problems, and so the whole multi-week-after-treatment ejection does seem to be possible.

 

I posted a while ago about seeing an apparently dead tapeworm coming out of my CPD something like 4-6 weeks post treatment. I haven't noticed any other problems, and so the whole multi-week-after-treatment ejection does seem to be possible.

Good to know! Thanks