Calcium And Magnesium For Shrimps

Roger121
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hI guys, well I trying hard the neocaridina breeding but the mothe....the shrimp... just don't want to do it so I will make all perfect to make them finally breed, so I read in internet about the shrimp salt, what is calcium chloride and magnesium sulfate, but idk if those salts have the purpose to make a specific GH , or if the shrimps use the calcium and magnesium to make their exoskeleton and breed faster. can somebody say me what is the exact purpose for those salts?
 
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EbiAqua
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Can you tell me more about your setup? Size, temperature, water parameters, etc.

How long have you had the shrimp and how many do you have?

Calcium and Magnesium are related to GH, and they are used by shrimp to maintain healthy molts and body chemistry. However, your tap may already have sufficient GH as well as KH.
 
Roger121
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  • #3
I have a ph to 6.5, I have my thermostat calibrated to around 25 Celsius, I have a kh to 10 and Gh 7 , nitrites 13ppm nitrates, 0.5ppm phosphates , 17ppm potassium coz I got very planted setup. I have not the special shrimp substrate and I won't buy it xdxd,
PD. high spectrum and lumen ligth and high co2
 
richiep
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In the last thread you said you were going to do big water changes to force your shrimp to breed, I advised you not to do this and you never answered, so you need to update this new thread as to what you've don with the tank before proper advise can be given, it may be your trying to hard these things take time and messing with water,salts ect only prolongs things and can be detrimental to the shrimp
 
EbiAqua
  • #5
Ok, as richie.p said big water changes are a no-no. Small weekly changes of 10 to 15 percent are more advisable.

Neocaridina do not need a special substrate, I bred hundreds of them on plain sand.

Also, CO2 injection GREATLY impacts breeding. You cannot expect to have a successful breeding setup in a high-tech planted tank environment, as there are too many factors that prevent the shrimp from breeding such as pH changes, TDS swings, and in your case large water changes.

You can't force shrimp to breed, especially in less than ideal conditions. Frankly you're trying too hard and would have a LOT more success in a low tech planted environment that doesn't require a lot of fertilizer or light with small weekly water changes. In my breeding setup I had sand, lava rock, and cholla wood. My plants were java moss, hornwort, duckweed, and marimo moss balls, anubias and java ferns, and the tank had an integrated sump that I packed with pothos. I almost never fed the tank, as the shrimp were well supplied with algae and biofilm as well as magnolia leaves. Any algae that grew, I left alone. I only did a 20% water change once a month on that system. I had hundreds of cherry shrimp in that tank in only a few months and I started with 25.


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Roger121
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yeah, I did not make the water changes to breed them in the last post u said it was wrong and stupid xdxd, so I'm looking different ways to do it , I read in some post in another forum about the shrimp salt, so I want to know if the shrimp needs the calcium and magnesium to have a special GH or if I can give them some vitaminic supplement with calcium and magnesium to make them stronger and can breed in my tank , I was thinking about making special shrimp food with corn (magnesium) and pulverized eggs shells (calcium carbonate) and vitaminic and mineral supplements without copper and spinach and chicken and , u get it shrimp food with calcium and magnesium or is better the salt?
I read in some part of the internet about the neocaridinas shrimp can live very good in high tech alone lol , maybe a mistake bought them.
PD, I think I already have some magnesium and calcium chloride in my tank but is for plants so xd. yeah.

ohhhh, bois look this xd , I already find a pregnant srhimp lol , just yesterday was not pregnant lololol, can u see the orange belly full of eggs? , I saw some males swimming all around the tank lolol, I'm pretty happy, some trick to make the female more comfortable ? xd
is a little bit weird coz that shrimp is not the older or the bigger one but , yeahhh boiiii, I was expecting more from other shrimps but this is now my favorite xdxd
 

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EbiAqua
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yeah, I did not make the water changes to breed them in the last post u said it was wrong and stupid xdxd, so I'm looking different ways to do it , I read in some post in another forum about the shrimp salt, so I want to know if the shrimp needs the calcium and magnesium to have a special GH or if I can give them some vitaminic supplement with calcium and magnesium to make them stronger and can breed in my tank , I was thinking about making special shrimp food with corn (magnesium) and pulverized eggs shells (calcium carbonate) and vitaminic and mineral supplements without copper and spinach and chicken and , u get it shrimp food with calcium and magnesium or is better the salt?
I read in some part of the internet about the neocaridinas shrimp can live very good in high tech alone lol , maybe a mistake bought them.
PD, I think I already have some magnesium and calcium chloride in my tank but is for plants so xd. yeah.

The shrimp salts are for remineralizing RO water for consistent parameters, but 9/10 people can breed Neos in their tap water.

Don't try so hard lol. All they need is stability, the simpler your setup the better.
 
Roger121
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
I will try to don't disturb the parameters so much xd, I'm trying so hard coz one friend told me that kind of shrimps can breed in the toilet and I have 5 months and just a couple of pregnants shrimps xdxd, lol well, thx both for the answer.
 
Jeff041419
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The shrimp salt is for general health of the shrimp, including a healthy exoskeleton. Water such as distilled or reverse-osmosis or rainwater will need to have minerals added to it, unless there is some other source of minerals in the tank.

For tap water, you would need to test it. Really, for any water, you should test it, to see how acceptable it is.

The parameters for red cherry shrimp are listed as.....

GH of 6 - 8 (optimal) but they can tolerate a wider range.

KH of 2 - 4 (optimal) but again they can tolerate a wider range.

TDS of 150 - 200, but again a wider range can be acceptable.

They become sexually mature at 4 - 6 months old.

I have a ph to 6.5, I have my thermostat calibrated to around 25 Celsius, I have a kh to 10 and Gh 7 , nitrites 13ppm nitrates, 0.5ppm phosphates , 17ppm potassium coz I got very planted setup. I have not the special shrimp substrate and I won't buy it xdxd,
PD. high spectrum and lumen ligth and high co2

What are your nitrite and nitrate readings again?

Just those two.
 
Roger121
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
0 nitrites , and I always keep the nitrates up to 13ppm but sometimes I can have 20 to 0 ppm if I don't take care about it, coz plants I add potassium nitrate not so much but I do it.
 
Jeff041419
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0 nitrites , and I always keep the nitrates up to 13ppm but sometimes I can have 20 to 0 ppm if I don't take care about it, coz plants I add potassium nitrate not so much but I do it.

Excellent, I didn't see the nitrite number there, so I decided I would check. But I see you're good.
 
Roger121
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Lolol, I find another pregnant shrimp xdxd, the hype increase to 4000%, very nice very nice, 2 months of inativity and now two pregnant, gud gud
 

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