Butterfly Ram In 36 Gallon Tank?

Would my 36 gallon tank be able to hold only one butterfly ram without it really disturb all my fish?
Tom

I'm guessing from no response that I woouldn't be able to fit one ram in my 36 gallon tank?
Tom

From different sites I checked out, the all say it would be okay to hold a ram due to the peacefulness of it.
Tom

 

Hi. I have one male Bolivian Ram that I removed from a tank that had 2 males & a female, to cut down on aggression between the males. I've had him in a community tank a couple days now, with Platies, Neons, and Cories, and the fish all get along just fine. I'd guess the same would be true with one butterfly since the species are closely related and similar in size. I guess a lot depends on what other fish you have in that 36 gallon, but the tank size is definitely fine, as long as it's not overstocked.

 

Terry, just have a look at my signature.
Tom

 

Well duh! I usually ignore signatures, and if I have the option I shut them off in the other forums I belong to - sorry. IMHO I'd say go with the ram. The only fish that I'm not really familiar with are the loaches. If they're peaceful I don't see a problem. I've had the other fish you have listed in tanks with rams and had no problem. I'd even make a guess that you could have a pair of rams, as long as you don't end up with 2 males. They can be difficult to sex when they're not fully adult - especially with the Bolivians. I had to get help sexing mine in a cichlid forum I spend a lot of time in.

 

I just want to have only one since I don't want any more aggression than my clown loach playfully chasing my yoyo loach.
Tom

 

Sorry tom for the no0 response. It's a shame when work gets in the way of my hobby LOL
Your tank is stocked to capacity right now. I wouldn't add any more fish.
Carol

 

What about 3 more harlequins?
Tom

Are these calculations correct?
Tom

 

As I said your tank is stocked. Sorry.
Carol

 

But are the calculations correct?
Tom

 

If I understand your calculations correctly no their not correct. when you calculate your fish sizes you calculate their ADULT size not their current sizes. In that case you currently have 47 inches or more of potential fish which won't work for your tank because of the clown which has more body mass so the 1 inch per gallon won't work for him.
Carol

 

For the clown and CAE, would I calculate what it's full adult size is, or the size when I am going to trade it for something else? And how big do yo-yo loaches grow to be?
Tom

 

Until you actually trade them their not gone so yes you would calculate their adult size because who knows you might still have them
Carol

 

It would all depend on how big the ram is if its onlI about 5cm then yeh go ahed but if its fully grown then no I wouldnt advise it

 

Tom this is one of the reasons why we advise people to figure adult size when stocking a tank. Some times things happen to make larger tanks impossible in the future or the fish are not trades like we think we are going to.
I still say your tank is full to capacity BUT... it is your tank and it's up to you to decide
Carol

 

For the loaches and CAEs, I got those before I registered on this site. And the people at the stroe said they will only grow a few inches. But, hey, I we are only human, we all make mistakes, "That's why pencils have erasers"Lenny Leonard(The Simpsons). And thanks for not saying that I have to do everything according to 'the rules' of fish keeping(which I try and not break any of them).
Tom

 

Yes I have noticed you try to take good care of your fish But when you ask a question and I respond I'm going to give you the very best information I know how to give and then it's up to you to decide whether it's the info you need or not
Carol

 

Going with the good old 'honesty is the best policy' line. I am not trying to be rude but truthful. And I thank you for it, you have helped me make a few good decsions regarding my tanks.
Tom

I went to the store today and they didn't have any rams(lucky me), but they did have 3 harlequins like the owner said they would. So I got the rasboras and might get a ram in a few months but not now.
Tom

 

I think u might be ok np
aqua

 

Butterfly or anyone else, do you know how big yo-yo loaches really grow too? loaches.com says 6", while 75% of the sites say 3" and my books say 3" as well. So which is it?
Tom

 

Yep - searching around I've seen everything from 3 inches to 6 inches max. One site said they rarely get over 4 inches in aquaria. But, they have the potential to get to 6. Even at 4-5 inches that's a fairly large fish.

 

I have 4 yoyos in the 55G three have gotten to be about 5 inches and the fourth is close. when they all quit growing I think they will be between 5 and 6 inches.
Carol

 

Thanks.
Tom

 

Welcome as always
Carol

 

HI Tom. I came across this link on Clown Loaches in a different forum. In all my years I've never kept any loaches so I never realized how huge the clowns can get - up to 16 inches! At that rate, even Butterfly's 75 will be overstocked at some point!

clown loach

Check out the pic of Marge!

 

Even though I have already seen that, thanks. I am aware they grow really big, I was going to trade mine for something when it gets to be about 4-6" in length. I don't want it to suffer and not get to it's potetial length.
Tom

 

"He" is very cute! Have you named him?
Brianna

 

Thank you. I have not named him yet, any suggestions?
Tom

 

Nice Ram and it is a male I believe This is what my ram used to do with the gravel vac.

 

Is that your ram or someone elses?
Tom

 

This is what my ram used to do with the gravel vac.