Bulbs and vals.

Discussion in 'Aquarium Plants' started by MatthewM, Jul 26, 2015.

  1. MatthewM

    MatthewM Valued Member Member

    My Madagascar lace is growing at a fantastic rate. It started as a bulb with nothing, now look at it! ImageUploadedByFish Lore Aquarium Fish Forum1437938505.475205.jpg ImageUploadedByFish Lore Aquarium Fish Forum1437938527.556477.jpg
    My question is, does it need to be planted... It always seem to get dug up :/ so i just left it and it seems fine...my large common pleco was rehomed and he was the main culprit so i may re plant it. But if it keeps getting dug up, can i just leave it? Or does it need to be in the sand with the root tabs.
    And onto the vals. ImageUploadedByFish Lore Aquarium Fish Forum1437938628.789686.jpg
    All my valls are doing this. It seems a bit more than just some movement melting...how can i save them? If i can...
     
  2. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    Do you use Excel in your tank?

    I'd plant the lace. But not planting it won't hurt.
     
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    MatthewM

    MatthewM Valued Member Member

    Excel, flourish, iron, potassium, root tabs. I did start excel slowly so the vals could adjust. But i dont think it worked...
     




  4. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    It won't always work with simple plants like vals. Stop using it, or don't keep the vals. And I edited my last post, but you can plant the lace or leave it. It won't matter.
     
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  5. Beeker

    Beeker Well Known Member Member

    If you are using all of that, you might be killing them with kindness.
    Try stopping all of that and let your fish naturally fertilize your tank for a while.
     
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    MatthewM

    MatthewM Valued Member Member

    I use flourish once a week. And potassium and iron two to three times, and excel every other. But i'll try that. How long should i stop for?

    What are cheap, nice plants that are easy to keep? I noticed my amazon sword is thriving. What are some plants like that? If anyone knows
     
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  7. Beeker

    Beeker Well Known Member Member

    Stop until you see something change in the plants. It could take a couple of weeks or even a month. Keep an eye on them and report back. Too much love can be worse than neglect with plants.
     
  8. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    If all your other plants are doing fine, I wouldn't change anything except for cutting out the Excel if you want to keep the val.
     
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    MatthewM

    MatthewM Valued Member Member

    Alright. Thanks guys
     
  10. Beeker

    Beeker Well Known Member Member

    Vals a pretty easy. They don't need a ton of ferts. Other easy plants are Anubias, Java Fern and Wisteria. Those are the old faithfuls in my tank. Amazon Sword is a monster. I'm glad you have a 75 gallon tank, because those plants take over. When I finally decided to take it out of my 20 gallon, instead of fighting a losing battle with constantly cutting it back, it almost took the whole bottom of the tank with it.
    If you have one of those, just put a root tab near it and hold off with the rest of the ferts.
     
  11. BDpups

    BDpups Well Known Member Member

    It depends on if you want to cintinue to use Excel or not.

    Wisteria and anubias would work. And cyperus that looks like vals.

    Java ferns and crypts would also work. But can be like vals when it comes to Excel. So be prepared if you get some and use Excel, it may take some time for them to thrive. And it may melt them away.
     
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    MatthewM

    MatthewM Valued Member Member

    I had an anubias, and i killed it, lol. I was told to plant it. Anndddd that didnt end well. So no more anubias nana. I have a plant list if my current set up if it helps. ImageUploadedByFish Lore Aquarium Fish Forum1437966720.690983.jpg
     
  13. Dom90

    Dom90 Fishlore VIP Member

    How did you kill the anubias? Did you have the rhizome below the substrate?


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    MatthewM

    MatthewM Valued Member Member

    Yeah...i was told it was supposed to be planted that way... Then the base rotted out. Now i know not too. Shame, i thought it was a cool plant.
     
  15. Beeker

    Beeker Well Known Member Member

    I'm sorry about your anubias. I did that too when I first started. They are great plants, though. I'll never go without them. Mine have been blooming a lot lately and the fish love hiding under the leaves or resting on top of them.
    Give it another try. Don't bury the rhizome. Just rest it on top of the substrate or tie it gently to an ornament. The plant will send out roots that will dig into the substrate on their own and the plant will do great. The rhizome just needs to be on top of the substrate.

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