Breed Proj Journal: Feb 04

KOIiiii

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Hello All, I just wanted to keep a journal since this is my first spawn It's a bit late but my phone is cramming with photos!
This breeding project is an experiment to see what the outcome is between my Dark Melano/Red HMPK x Cambodian HM Female.
Of course, I have food, frys, and space and future plans for the frys. Lets get started

Feb 04 - I decided to use a method that I've seen from YouTube. Where you just gently let the male and female in together. (They've been conditioned for 4 weeks prior.) Male was put into breeding container in the morning around 8 AM. Around twelve hours later (8PM) female was gently put inside breeding container and I shut off the light.
NOTE: I did let them see each other like maybe 4 times out of the 4 weeks conditioning.
I did feel uncomfortable letting them in like this, but I hoped for the best.

Feb 05 -Next morning, Woke up late for school, didn't get to check much, but just turned on light. no real dmg at all! Female follows male, but he'll be aggro at times just trying. Not very much. But he built his nest overnight it seems. (Under a styrofoam cup)

Feb 06- Fast forward 8 hours into afternoon (4PM) (Since I had school ;- there seems to be eggs I was excited! Female was hiding underneath bunch of hornworts. Safely removed. Quite sad I didn't get witness the embrace.
 
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KOIiiii

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Feb 07 - Eggs just keep falling! Father is keeping it up. The nest seems to be cut down in half :| Was a bit worried there.
Around 9 PM, they hatched. You could see minI tails hanging from underneath the eggs. I was taken by surprise because they hatch so soon!
Which means I predicted their spawn wrong and could have taken overnight when I introduced them.

Feb 08/09 - Father looking after the eggs very well So far no eating eggs. First time father is doing excellent !
 
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KOIiiii

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Feb 9 Afternoon - Some are free swimming now! That's always good thing My iPhone 6 is pretty whack so I couldn't really capture those minI fry T_T.
Feb 10 (1 AM) - Seems like all are free swimming. I removed the male.
At this point, I predicted maybe there were about 20-30 But i'm fine with that =)
Sorry for the blurriness- phone can't focus that well
 
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KOIiiii

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Feb 11 - For the first couple days I only had BBS. I think they were too big for the frys so instead I really hope with the plants inside the tank will provide enough infurosia for the gang.
I have MW and Vinegar Eels but just a slight problem--- MW didn't produce enough yet to harvest, and Vinegar Eels were still in shipping due to weather we've had in Wisconsin :/ (Still a very chilly and snowy weather climate still)
Heres a little fella
It seems there might be more than 20 !

Feb 12 - First feeding BBS. Most are able to pick and eat it. Thank god lol.
 
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KOIiiii

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Feb 16 (1st Week Since Free Swimming) - I can see most of them now. Daily feeding 3x per day. BBS/ MW

NOTE : Sorry about pictures. Since videos aren't allowed and I'm lazy to turn them into YouTube URLs, I'll be screenshotting pictures from the videos as best as could.
 
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KOIiiii

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Feb 25 ( 2 Week Old) - Transferred the whole batch into a bigger tank with higher level of water, 20g.
While moving, I'm suspecting maybe more than 50. Woahhh
NOTE : I forgot to mention that when the frys hatched, so did some snails from the hornworts.
 
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KOIiiii

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Mar 3 (About 3.2 weeks old) - Removed plants and the container(It held the baby snails and such) you see in the picture. Anal and Dorsal fins are developed with small hint of red.

Picture of the whole tank - Taken Feb 27. Feel free to count , =) I think it might be around 70+
 
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KOIiiii

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Mar 10 (4 Week Old) - Well well, looks like we got a variety of sizes. I might start separating the smaller ones from the big ones. or should I wait a little longer?
 

Guanchy

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great man! Good luck with the fry, would be great to see photos of the parents too
 
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KOIiiii

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Guanchy said:
great man! Good luck with the fry, would be great to see photos of the parents too
I'll update you with pictures of the parents when I get home =))
 
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KOIiiii

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Guanchy said:
great man! Good luck with the fry, would be great to see photos of the parents too
Sorry for blurriness. The Male and Female are both from LFS. I don't know why it looks like that :/
Taken just now. He is put in the cup temporary for the photo )
 
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KOIiiii

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The female behind the cup was recently bred with this KoI . Frys are hatched and currently 2 days old. We'll see how this batch does, but just wanted to share it out there. Excited for the outcome.
 

Guanchy

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beautiful bettas man! you have a female sorority?
 
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KOIiiii

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Thank you! Yes I do! Just 5 in one 20 gallon though.
 
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KOIiiii

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Guanchy said:
Keep us update!

I bred my betta kois two months ago

check out the thread here

KoI Betta Breeding Journal
I've been watching your journal! Inspired me to start and keep track haha! You are amazing! =)
 

Guanchy

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Haha thanks! Its been a lot of fun. I'm updating with some new photos in a few minutes
 
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KOIiiii

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In need of a little bit of help. It seems so about a day or two ago, I saw 2 dead fries. I didn't think much of it, they were small and wouldn't eat much. Now that I inspect closer, A FEW of the smaller ones lie at the bottom tilted 30 degrees.

Feed 3x a Day BBS.
Temp: 82 F
Filtered. 50% Water Change Daily Basis.

Please let me know what might be wrong... ;-;
 
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KOIiiii

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Mar 17 (5 Weeks) - I do not know if they're growing appropriately. But they seem to be getting bigger and bigger!
On the down side, about 30-40 of the smaller ones didn't make it. Many are starting to develop their baby colors.
These particular two are average sizes.

This one's showing yellow with an outline of black. Quite interesting, really hope he carries that all the way through! < 3 (Sorry for blurriness, will upload cleaner one later.)
 

Thedudeiam94

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50% water changes daily isn’t ideal. Honestly any of my fry have always done well when I’ve done water changes only if the ammonia in the water starts getting too high. Once weekly water changes of about 30% usually do the trick for me and keeps the water stable with less fluctuations. Sometimes water changes can throw off the good bacteria growth and cause the fish to die off because the fluctuations were too great. However (this is only what has worked for me) someone else might think differently.
 
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KOIiiii

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Thedudeiam94 said:
50% water changes daily isn’t ideal. Honestly any of my fry have always done well when I’ve done water changes only if the ammonia in the water starts getting too high. Once weekly water changes of about 30% usually do the trick for me and keeps the water stable with less fluctuations. Sometimes water changes can throw off the good bacteria growth and cause the fish to die off because the fluctuations were too great. However (this is only what has worked for me) someone else might think differently.
Thank you for that comment. Currently, I'm testing water changes every 3-4 days since they're older now. I'll do the 30% instead of 50%
 

Thedudeiam94

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Awesome sounds good! I hope the best for your fry!! post pics when you can!
 
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KOIiiii

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Apr 1 (7 weeks): Hello , it’s been awhile! They’ve grown much bigger and getting really interesting. They stopped dying so I guess changing 30% every 3 days have helped! )

Remember the one with Yellow with black outline?? WOW! It’s changed a lot and it’s the biggest and only! Definitely keeping an eye on that mustard

SIDE NOTE: I realize some of them despite being 7 weeks are really small! Not hitting 1 cm yet. I will try my best otherwise culling ;-; they’ve been moved with my other batch (3 weeks old) they’re roughly the same size

 

Guanchy

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Wow they look great! Love that
Blue and yellow one
 

CameronsBettas

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Any updates?
 
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KOIiiii

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MidnightBettas said:
Any updates?
Hello! I can post a picture later when I get home. But I have to say-
The Blue/Yellow one drastically changed colors!
 
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KOIiiii

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Look who changed! Don't even know what to expect. What do you guys think he'll/she'll end up looking like? =)
 
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KOIiiii

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Remember the Blue and yellow one from a few weeks ago? Feeling old, he changed so much! Male for sure. His fins aren't top notched but color is beauty!
 
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KOIiiii

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This one really interested me ! It's hard to take a picture :/ but -- He/She has metallic color - and it's sort of like copper. Not sure if female or male yet, but we'll see. Leaning towards Female
 
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KOIiiii

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Some aren't as developed yet, however most looks like First and second picture. Second picture though, leaning towards a long tail. He seemed to have longer fins and light red to him.
The last two picture-- Felt bad for some of the smaller ones. They're getting picked!

INFO and Notes:
Jarred the Blue Butterfly (I think he'll turn out butterfly) on April 18th due to aggressiveness and flares. He matured quite fast and started blowing nest right away ! LOL.

Jarred 6 of them today as you can see . Just temporary till I set up a rack for them.

Separated some of the smaller fry into another batch (The other batch only had about 20 survivors).

Total Fry from this batch : 122.

Current age : 11.5 Weeks Old
 
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KOIiiii

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Jun 4 (Approx 28 weeks) - Many are ready to be jarred. They can't stay with the others no longer :3 Many have torn fins (minor). Hopefully they'll recover quickly. Here are some that are ready and pretty much matured!

*** I really like this one (HfM2) A bit torn up , because the other somehow jumped in during water change... Lids are placed back now : ))





*** HfM3 - Blurry one, sorry. He doesn't like pictures much, moves wayyyy too fast. I need to find my camera soon ://
 
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KOIiiii

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***** Little marble. Can some one help identify if this is a female or male? I'm leaning more towards male at the moment. Thanks. Can't get it to flare yet since he/she was just transferred to be jarred. Still adjusting .
 

CameronsBettas

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KOIiiii said:
***** Little marble. Can some one help identify if this is a female or male? I'm leaning more towards male at the moment. Thanks. Can't get it to flare yet since he/she was just transferred to be jarred. Still adjusting .
I can't really see the ventrals or check for an egg spot in those photos but I'd say male. Whenever you can get a better photo upload it
 
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KOIiiii

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Update : Frys are now adults (4.5 Months) . About 30 of them jarred. Up for sale, we'll see how that goes. Some are sold/reserved.
Pictures upload on a later date.
 
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KOIiiii

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1HPM - Marble. Only one of two.

2HMP / 4 HPM - About 6 of the same. Give or take.

4 HMP - 2 of the same.

5 HMP - First to color change =))

6 HMP - A couple of the same/

7 HMP - Marbled. The other one of two

8 HMP - 2 of similar color. The other nipped its fin. Currently recovering.
 

e_watson09

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KOIiiii said:
1HPM - Marble. Only one of two.

2HMP / 4 HPM - About 6 of the same. Give or take.

4 HMP - 2 of the same.

5 HMP - First to color change =))

6 HMP - A couple of the same/

7 HMP - Marbled. The other one of two

8 HMP - 2 of similar color. The other nipped its fin. Currently recovering.
Oh my goodness they're STUNNING! I am so excited to breed my bettas down the road. We are still a while out but wow this makes me so excited. These guys have colored up wonderfully
 
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KOIiiii

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e_watson09 said:
Oh my goodness they're STUNNING! I am so excited to breed my bettas down the road. We are still a while out but wow this makes me so excited. These guys have colored up wonderfully
Thanks! Good luck to you for your success !
 

Guanchy

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KOIiiii said:
***** Little marble. Can some one help identify if this is a female or male? I'm leaning more towards male at the moment. Thanks. Can't get it to flare yet since he/she was just transferred to be jarred. Still adjusting .
I believe this is a female! not sure tho but he/she is stunning! as well as all the other ones. great job.

What are you planning to do with all of these?
 
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KOIiiii

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Guanchy said:
I believe this is a female! not sure tho but he/she is stunning! as well as all the other ones. great job.

What are you planning to do with all of these?
Thanks for the reply although late. The one you mentioned is the most recent picture of 7 HMP. Turned out to be male.

Most will be sold. I'm keeping one or two.
 

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