Biz's BN pleco breeding journal! Yellow blue eyes?!

  1. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    I thought I was done breeding plecos. After just two spawns a little over a year ago, I was fed up with plecos. Too much poop and too many babies!! lol

    BUT there was one project/dream that I started over a year ago that has finally come true and has me willing to breed them again.....

    To sum it up for those who don't already know, I have had a yellow blue eyed male BN pleco for 4 years. He is stunning. He fathered babies with a long finned brown female in October 2015. They were all brown. And they were a mixture of long and short fins. I saved several of the babies until I had a for-sure female. He has been living with his daughter for almost a year as I have waited patiently for her to get big enough to lay me some eggs. The goal here is that I HOPE that she has the yellow blue eyed gene recessively since her dad is a yellow blue eyed pleco. And I HOPE that, as a result, a portion of her babies will be yellow blue eyed babies. Maybe even some long fin yellow blue eyes babies (because his daughter is long finned)!!!

    She finally laid me some eggs WOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!! I have waited sooo long!!! The kicker is whether or not she did in fact get the gene. Do all of the babies get all the genes from both their parents? Or might she have missed out on the yellow blue eyed gene from her dad? I am so anxious. We will know in the next couple weeks!!

    I'd love to have people follow along on the journey!! tyguy7760 you asked for a mention :)
     
  2. kitkat67 Initiate Member

    You might want to research the genes in question. It could be as simple as a punnet square, but it could also be the result of multiple genes in play, on the same or different chromosomes. If it's a sex-linked gene then none of your females will ever inherit it. Really depends on how many genes are respondsible for the yellow-blue eye, dominancy, inheritance, and expression.
     

  3. Mootang Member Member

    Following:)
     
  4. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    I have tried my darndest to find some info about it, but I am not having any luck. Believe me, I have done my research LOL

    I breed angelfish and use the angelfish genetics calculator a lot. I find that when one parent has a trait and the other doesn't, it says that 100% of the babies WILL have it recessively. Not just a portion of them. So if pleco genes are at all similar to angelfish genes, then I would assume that his daughter does have the gene recessively.
     

  5. Mootang Member Member

    Not trying to get off topic but what calculator do you use?

    Also we need pics!
     
  6. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    Just google "angelfish genetics calculator" :) there are two options that I have used! But you have to know a lot about the different genes to pick out the right angel parents. And then also, you don't know what recessive genes each of those parents have, so you never really know for sure.

    I will add some pics shortly!!! :)
     
  7. Aquaphobia Fishlore Legend Member

    Awaiting the results with bated breath! How long until they hatch do you think?
     

  8. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    Here is dad
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    And mom.... his daughter... with a belly full of eggs :)
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    And one of the new babies I just bought because I was getting impatient. Interesting timing LOL
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  9. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    I don't know, experience wise, because both of my previous litters were not known about until the babies started being brave and leaving the cave!

    I read that they hatch after about 4 days and after 10 days you should start to see some of them start swimming. I don't know FOR SURE when she laid her eggs. I hadn't looked at her belly in a few days. But I saw how skinny she was last night and I knew she had to have laid eggs. It could have been anytime in the last few days.
     
  10. tyguy7760 Fishlore VIP Member

    following!
     

  11. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    There is a small bundle of eggs that fell off the top of the "cave" and right into the line of sight for the opening of the ship they used. This is kind of neat because it will allow me to possibly see the development process like I can with angelfish. However, dad isn't caring for those eggs. Not that I can tell. He is focused on the others. So without his care taking, I am not sure if they will successfully hatch. But here is a picture of them :)[​IMG]
     
  12. ShadowKittyCat Well Known Member Member

    Following!
     
  13. tfreema Well Known Member Member

    So exciting! I want a yellow blue eyed if you will be shipping them!
     
  14. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    I'll consider it!!! :)
    I don't want to get too excited because I'm so paranoid I'm going to end up with a litter of all brown babies!!
    That will be a HUGE let down! A major blow to the gut!!!
     
  15. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    The babies just hatched!! And thanks to the small bundle that fell to the ground...I get to see them!!! Here's a video I was sooooo pumped to be able to capture!!
    https://youtu.be/7tNjMTc80ho
     
  16. Lchi87 Fishlore VIP Member

    How cool! I've never seen newly hatched baby plecos. Congrats!
     
  17. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    It is super cool! I never thought I'd get to see their development since they are always stuck in a dark cave! I wonder how many are up there with dad!!!
     
  18. tfreema Well Known Member Member

    Oooh, they all look yellow! Or are they all born that color?
     
  19. Aquaphobia Fishlore Legend Member

    LOL I was going to say the same thing! IIRC though they take a while to develop their colour. Mostly all you can see if the yellow yolk:p
     
  20. bizaliz3 Fishlore VIP Member

    Here is a pic of my first dad with his babies....this was taken the day the first baby ventured out of the cave....which from what I have read takes place approx 1 week after hatching. So we may know very soon.... 1270.jpg The mother was a brown long fin bn pleco. Clearly she had the albino gene recessively since the babies are half albino!