Bird Care <3

JamieXPXP
  • #1
So I've been thinking of getting a bird. Most likely a Budgie and want to know how to properly care for one as the last time I had one was when I was a child.

How big of a cage do they need, do they need to be in pairs, kind of food to feed for a good diet, etc. Also how to get them used to people and how to handle them until they get used to me and how to train them to respond to you.
 
Fanatic
  • #2
I think "THINK" if my memory serves me right, Mary765 has a bird.
 
Smalltownfishfriend
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RedLoredAmazon has one too!!
 
Fanatic
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TexasDomer
  • #5
I do as well, though mine is much bigger than a budgie haha.

If you're going to be spending lots of time with it, then a single is fine. Otherwise, I'd get two. Make sure you spend time with both though, or they'll be afraid of you and would rather spend time with each other than with you.

I would get some that are hand raised - that'll make it easier for you to get them to like you. Handle them a lot - hold them, snuggle with them, gently pet them if they'll let you. Take them around the house with you while you do chores. Give them treats, but I would do it while you're holding them so they look forward to being held.

Get them on a good pellet diet. Veggies and fruits are good (more veggies than fruits), and seed should make up only a minor portion of their diet.

Cage size depends on how many you get and if you're going to leave them flighted (this can cause a whole host of issues when you're taking them out of their cage - I'd recommend trimming their primary feathers). As a general rule, the bigger the better. For these guys, you want thin bars with small spacing between.
 
RedLoredAmazon
  • #6
I do have a bird and he's a bit bigger than a parakeet, but I did have parakeets years ago. I agree with all that TexasDomer said. Parakeets are big birds in a tiny bird body; major confidence through the roof! If you want one that has the potential to talk, I do recommend getting a male parakeet; it's not guaranteed, but they do have a higher chance at talking.

If I think of anything else, I'll chime in later. My brain is pretty toast since I don't have working AC in my house right now.
 
TexasDomer
  • #7
Or if you really want something that talks and stays small, look into parrotlets. Even smaller than budgies, but loads of personality and they can talk. They're a parrot personality in a finch's body size. Quite cute too!
 
Demeter
  • #8
You can google "budgie care" and get a ton of hits, but a few tips from others is always a plus. I suggest you have the wings clipped, at least for the first few months, so the bird has to rely on you to pick it up off the ground, forming a sort of trust. Plus this makes it easier for you to handle the bird and there will be zero chance of it flying out the door/window. We choose to let our cockatiel fly about, mainly because we also have cats and dogs, which don't bother the bird too much.

As for foods, it is surprisingly easy to end up with an overweight bird. Be careful what you feed and only have occasional healthy treats. My bird gets cooked rice, pasta, popcorn, cooked egg, green beans, cauliflower, broccolI and things like that. Not very often of course but every now and then.
 
Albifrons
  • #9
I'd also check out The Parrot Wizard's Guide To Well-Behaved Parrots. It's a really good read if you're thinking about getting any kind of bird, and it helps a lot with training! You can find it on amazon, along with most of Michael's other products.
Tons of research is needed when you get a bird, I been reading and researching them for three years and I still don't even have a bird yet. Another thing, if you can adopt, don't buy from a pet store or breeder. There are so many rescues out there that are full birds that deserve good homes!
 
Mary765
  • #10
Woah you remembered Fanatic !!!

Yrs I do have a bird. A singular budgie girl called Sky.

First things first, before you decide on cage size and all that jazz, how much free time and care are you willing to give your bird?

I discovered this site long after I got my bird but it is reccomended by lots of bird-keeping friends I know (inc myself) so please check it out JamieXPXP it might help us to decide which bird is best suited for your care!

https://myrightbird.com

If you could get back to us with the results that would be great..

I can provide details about my budgies diet, cage and lifestyle if you want but it's best to know if you can care for a bird first until then here is a picture of my girl posing for the camera in her doorway.
 

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JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Sorry been a bit busy today. I am willing spend as much free time and care as I need to. I got the Blue Fronted Amazon Parrott from that quiz
 
Albifrons
  • #12
Oh, another thing that I forgot to mention about rescues is that they will find a bird that will be good for you based on the bird's personality, not on the species stereotypes. You could walk into a rescue being a big fan of cockatoos, but then end up falling in love with an Alexandrine Parakeet. That's one of the things I love about rescues, they give you a chance to interact with adult birds who already have their core personality, instead of baby birds who will be little angels until they reach their terrible twos stage, start to hit puberty, and then show off how irritable they can be! Then after that, they'll achieve their core personality and stay that way the rest of their life.
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
I was going to take a look at bird sites but figured I'd come here first as I feel more comfortable with you all lol
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
There aren't any rescues here sadly so I will end up getting one from the petstore
 
FishFish221
  • #15
How big of a cage do they need, do they need to be in pairs, kind of food to feed for a good diet, etc. Also how to get them used to people and how to handle them until they get used to me and how to train them to respond to you.

(This is in my experience for budgerigars)
For the cage size, get as large of a cage as possible, but should be at least be 2 feet by 2 feet by 1.5 feet. They will eat most brands bird seeds mixes made for parakeets, but in my experience some brands just made by birds fat, so its best to stay to brands such as kaytee or all living things (both are pretty good ime). Its best that they are kept in pairs to allow them to socialize with each other, but if you do, don't expect to much luck training them. I have two of budgies, and it took around a week to train them to eat from my hands, and that's the most I have ever trained them. You may have more luck training with only getting one budgie though.
 
Mary765
  • #16
Don't worry, I've been pretty busy lately so sorry if I'm slow to reply!

If you are willing to spend as much time as you need to and as much space as you need to then I don't see why you can't get a budgie so long as you know you can care for them properly.

You can choose between getting one or two. One budgie will need much more training and attention but two budgies will need more space and resources. I did initially have two but unfortunately one had medical complications from birth and didn't make it, but my two didn't get on very well either.. so it's probably for the best!

Cage wise Sky has a 35 by 43 by 72 cm cage which I would say is about the right size for a single budgie if you want only one and can interact with them often. Male birds are reccomended as singles over females but either are fine really.

Diet wise they need fresh water and seed every day (a complete diet seed like Trill is best) with fruit and veg daily for vitamins. No avocado.

You should aI'm to interact with your budgie foe at least and hour a day and to have their cage filled with interesting toys and perches (with some flying space). No nesting boxes, mirrors or fluff (rope is ok though)

Those are the very basics of budgie care. I find the YouTube channel Flock Talk has some great tips on keeping birds of all kinds

Any other questions feel free to ask! I don't have all the answers but I can do my best!!
 
Mary765
  • #17
but in my experience some brands just made by birds fat, so its best to stay to brands such as kaytee

I don't know about their food but I've heard bad things about Kaytee in terms of toys and treats as most are unsuitable for birds. Just a heads up
 
Albifrons
  • #18
Yeah, Kaytee is pretty bad. For food I'd do fresh fruit and veg, and for pellets I'd go with Zupreem, or another good brand. Then for treats, seeds, or if you end up going with something bigger than a budgie, almonds and nuts!
 
Mary765
  • #19
Another important choice is pellets vs seeds. I suggest you do your own research on both as they have pros and cons for each but obviously some brands are better than others and you need to find reputable sources! I personally have had no issues with seeds
 
FishFish221
  • #20
I don't know about their food but I've heard bad things about Kaytee in terms of toys and treats as most are unsuitable for birds. Just a heads up
I only really used to use their parakeet diet, until switching to all living things because that was $3 cheaper. My budgerigars also refuse to eat pellets (hence why I have a 95% full bag of pellets), and wouldn't eat any of it even if I mixed it in with their normal seed food.
 
OneLittleBubble
  • #21
You need to get the budgie a big cage so that it has lots of room not the tiny ones that are the size of two 10 gallons stacked, but the bigger ones. Oh, and make sure to give them lots of fruits and vegetables an all pellet diet isn't good for them.
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #22
I've been wondering whether or not I should feed it seeds or pellets. In the past I fed only seeds with no issues
 
OneLittleBubble
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image.jpg It gives them feather disease or something can't remember off the top of my head, but birds want to eat other foods too. You know an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Works for my bird.
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #24
Alright I can do some fruits and veggies as part of it's diet. Which brand of foods is good?
 
OneLittleBubble
  • #25
I use this. The one on the left is the food and the one on the right are the treats
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OneLittleBubble
  • #26
There might be smaller sizes for the food not that sure
 
Albifrons
  • #27
Birds will develop something called fatty liver disease if you feed them nothing but seeds. Mostly fruit and veg, with some pellets on the side is the way to go. Only feed seeds as a treat! I cannot stress that enough! Seeds are nothing but oil and fat, however, if you grow them into sprouts those are so much better than the original seed! I would check out channels on YouTube like Wingsnpaws, Flock Talk, Adventures of Roku, Parrot Wizard, and Marlene Mc'cohen.
 
OneLittleBubble
  • #28
Omg flock talk I remember watching her.
 
Mary765
  • #29
I only really used to use their parakeet diet, until switching to all living things because that was $3 cheaper. My budgerigars also refuse to eat pellets (hence why I have a 95% full bag of pellets), and wouldn't eat any of it even if I mixed it in with their normal seed food.

That's namely why I use seeds! My girl was born and raised in a seed diet and is afraid of anything else
 
Mary765
  • #30
As I said there are pros and cons of both seeds and pellets.

I use Trill Budgerigar seeds as they have a complete vitamin diet along with additional nutrition such as shells and micro pellets.
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #31
Is there certain beddings I should avoid? I know with some rodents you can't use wood shavings
 
OneLittleBubble
  • #32
Bedding? For the cage? Or for the sleeping spot
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #33
The cage and/or sleeping spot
 
OneLittleBubble
  • #34
I just use some soft towels and shirts and stuff
 
RedLoredAmazon
  • #35
Sorry been a bit busy today. I am willing spend as much free time and care as I need to. I got the Blue Fronted Amazon Parrott from that quiz

Please, please, please don't get a parrot! If I had to do it again, I wouldn't get one or had begged my parents for one. They are a TON of responsibility and live a long time. Rickie is 25 years old and is very healthy (which I'm glad of) and we have many more years left with him.

Is there certain beddings I should avoid? I know with some rodents you can't use wood shavings

We just use old newspaper to line the bottom of our cages. If you don't want to use those, I've seen some people use a couple of sheets of paper towels. Also, birds sleep on a perch upright and not normally on the bottom.

ZuPreem is a really good brand of food for birds. We had to wean Rickie over to eating it since all he really wants to do is eat his veggies instead.
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #36
yeah ive heard parrots live for a long time but wasn't sure how long exactly.
oh cool, looks like my local store carries ZuPreem! hmm I think I will go with a parakeet for now as they aren't too big and are generally easy to find lol.
so for a single parakeet, would this cage be good?
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OneLittleBubble
  • #37
Yes that's very true mine lives for 40 years and they are a huge responsibility. They will take up your time and want to be with you 24/7.
 
OneLittleBubble
  • #38
yeah ive heard parrots live for a long time but wasn't sure how long exactly.
oh cool, looks like my local store carries ZuPreem! hmm I think I will go with a parakeet for now as they aren't too big and are generally easy to find lol.
so for a single parakeet, would this cage be good?
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Idk that looks kinda small unless you are going to let them out of the cage more then half the day then it may be fine, but if you will be away a lot you probably should get a bigger cage. That way the parakeet has more space
 
TexasDomer
  • #39
Agreed, please do not feed seed as a major part of the diet. It is very unhealthy for them. It's like eating potato chips all day.

I feed mine a mix of Zupreem fruit pellets and Roudybush maintenance pellets. I know Roudybush makes pellets small enough for budgies - I think they're called crumbles.

And I agree with RedLored - I would not get a macaw/parrot/cockatoo unless you do lots of research. Budgies are easy and it's harder to ruin them (they're not as dependent on people). My cockatoo is my baby and I have had him for 11.5 years, but I don't think they are appropriate for 95% of the people who want them. Budgies and parrotlets are a great way to go if you want a bird with less of a commitment/cost/noise/etc.

I line the bottom of his cage with newspaper. Make sure you change this out daily (or at the very least every other day). Otherwise the food and poop can mold and you don't want that around birds.

Make sure you're prepared for a mess. Birds are messy creatures; it's in their nature, and you can't change it. My Too has his own room, and he will scatter his toys and food into all four corners. Not to mention the poop! He's potty trained when he's with me, but when he's running around his room and I'm in a different room, he'll go wherever and whenever he needs to. I have a big, thin, plastic tablecloth under his cage, and I clean this daily and replace it monthly.
 
JamieXPXP
  • Thread Starter
  • #40
I plan on having them out for most of the day but not everyday kinda more like every other day. until I train them to come when I call them. I have found a few other cages as well that might be good but are a lot more money. I looked on amazon but those ones are wayy out of my budget. so petsmart and petvalu are my only options right now.

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26 in L x 14 in W x 22 in H


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