Bichir

Discussion in 'Oddball Fish' started by CatPlaysWithPets, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Hey guys. So I recently found out my tiger oscar will grow too big for his 55 gallon. So, once he is big enough that I have to find a new home for him, I was wondering if I'd be able to keep a bichir in that tank. The only ones they have at my lfs is the "dinosaur bichir." I think this is aka the Senegal bichir. Thanks to anyone for the help
     
  2. Coradee

    CoradeeModeratorModerator Member

    Giving this a bump up for you
     
  3. Books&Fish

    Books&FishWell Known MemberMember

    I don't have one, but a local craiglist ad has a person selling one with its tank. It's a 220 gallon and that fish takes up a lot of space! I would say no.
     
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Oh darn. Ok thank you
     
  5. TwoHedWlf

    TwoHedWlfWell Known MemberMember

    The Senegalus are one of the smaller ones. Max sizes seem to vary from 14-20", so I'm gonna say 55 is too small for him.
     
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Alrighty. Do you guys have any recommendations for that tank? Like some type of cichlid or larger fish? But not too large. Lol
     
  7. TwoHedWlf

    TwoHedWlfWell Known MemberMember

    It's a bit borderline for a Severum, Maybe firemouth. There are a lot of the dwarf cichlids though that it would be great for. The apistos, Rams and similar.
     
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Never heard of an apistos. Or is that plural? Lol. I'll look em up
     
  9. OP
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Don't severums get larger than Oscars? I saw one in my lps and saw they could get up to 15 in. Although it is petsmart, and they were 25 bucks a piece. So they may be overdramaticising.
     
  10. TwoHedWlf

    TwoHedWlfWell Known MemberMember

    Not even close to larger than oscars, more like 7-9" would be a big one. They're around the middle of the cichlid range.

    Appistogramma.

    May be only one P, can't remember.
     
  11. OP
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Huh. Ok. Dang. So they were trying to make it reasonable for them to be more expensive. Idiots
     
  12. slayer5590

    slayer5590Well Known MemberMember

    Average size cb P senegalus is 8"-10" which is pushing it in a 55.
     
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    So I was on Instagram, and in thr feed I saw these beautiful fish called badis. Do you think I would be able to get a badis in my 55?
     
  14. Stephen Hiatt

    Stephen HiattWell Known MemberMember

    Scarlet Badis are even prettier. You could get a large handful in your 55. At least 10-20.
     
  15. Fishpuns

    FishpunsValued MemberMember

    You could definitely get badis! My lfs has a tank of scarlet badis that I've been eyeing up for ages. They stay rather small too, I would do a couple dozen alone in a 55 or 1 dozen with a tank mate
     
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    CatPlaysWithPets

    CatPlaysWithPetsValued MemberMember

    Ok thanks!!!
     
  17. tyguy7760

    tyguy7760Fishlore VIPMember

    agree with @slayer5590 . 75 would probably be minimum for a senegalus. Same for severums. Sevs can normally get to around 8 or 9 inches. In the wild they can get a bit larger.

    Badis would be fine but you wouldn't want to put anything larger than them or extremely active in the tank. They are a very shy fish and some need to be fed live foods. So make sure whatever you buy they are flake/pellet acclimated

    Some cichlids that would be appropriate that are commonly found would be a single blood parrot, eb acaras, firemouths, rainbow cichlids, bandits, rams, apistos, laetacaras, or kribs
     
  18. Polyguy

    PolyguyNew MemberMember

    I know this is an old thread but just want to put my opinion on senegalus, i agree @tyguy7760 about captive breed senegalus growin to 8"-9", they can grow bigger 10"-12" but takes along time. Some senegal ive own only grow to 5"-6" and i had it for 4yrs, genetics play a big role to the fish growth rate due to massive breeding. So its safe to have 3 senegal in a 55g.