Bettas and Snails

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
Since I had been giving all the attention to the girls, Marty has had his nose seriously out of joint so I promised to give him some attention and picture time. He gets along really well with Ivory now (Ivory Mystery Snail) and since Ivory was showing off today I got a couple nice pictures of him besides the ones of Marty's new tank.

Rose
 

0morrokh

Fishlore VIP
Messages
4,503
Reaction score
7
Points
208
Experience
5 to 10 years
Great pics!! ;D The tanks are so beautiful. Sheesh, I can't even keep my plants alive! : Hey, I just noticed you have that Ammonia Alert thing. Do you have problems with it getting dirty? Mine is covered with algae and I don't know how to clean it...do you? Your fish are so beautiful and the snails are awesome. I am thinking about getting a few myself. ;D
 

ebbandflow

Valued Member
Messages
284
Reaction score
0
Points
176
Beautiful setups Rose. And Marty to of course... goes without saying. How big is that snail? I have a few that came along with the plants in Satin's tank... theyre tiny though.
 

poefox

Well Known Member
Messages
582
Reaction score
0
Points
176
Really nice tanks, Rose. I love how they are set up, the combination of rocks and plants together. I didn't realize also that there were such nice looking snails.
 
  • Thread starter
  • Thread Starter
  • #5

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
These little guys (Snails) were about the size of small marbles when I got them a little over a month ago and now Ivory is the size of about half a golf ball. They say they will get to tennis ball size if you feed them well. A fellow I read a post from on a website about Mystery Snails said that canned spinach makes for BIG snails. Mine are going to get some fresh stuff from the garden this summer (spinach). They look like they are swelling out of their shells and you think there is something really wrong with them and then the shell starts to form and they are so BEAUTIFUL. They come in a Caramel Gold and the Ivory. (and I believe a striped Dark Brown) I have seen them advertised on , and some Walmarts have the Caramel colored ones. I got all my Ivory ones ordered by my Local Earl Mays Garden Center. Seems that they have pretty nice fish anymore but not my type (NO bettas).

Thanks for the fish and tank compliments. Actually the stuff in the tanks is mostly driftwood and a small cave made out of resin in Noels tank. They are just little boughten things. The fish keep digging up the plants and I have roots all over the place so I got metal plant anchors and just kind of let them float as otherwise I am rearranging the tanks twice a day. They just hate to have them planted. After a while the roots will grow down into the gravel on their own and then the fish won't be able to pull them out.

Marty finally decided it was okay to SWIM in his tank after hanging in mid water for half the day yesterday like he was afraid to move in all that room.

Yes the Ammonia Alert does get covered with algae but I just take a paper towel and wipe it off carefully. you have to just dab at the spot in the center as it will wipe off, but they can be cleaned. I also change mine about every 2 months.

Rose
 

0morrokh

Fishlore VIP
Messages
4,503
Reaction score
7
Points
208
Experience
5 to 10 years
Ok, thanks, I will clean mine off.

I believe Mystery Snails also come in black and blue. They sell several varieties at my Petsmart. I'm thinking of getting one. ;D I think they're supposed to get 2 inches in diameter...does that mean they add 2 inches of bio load, or is it different with snails?

Ebbandflow, don't worry, the ones that came on your plants are more than likely Pond Snails. They stay tiny, maybe a quarter or half inch max. They reproduce quickly but cause no harm and are fun to watch. Satin may eat some of them. I've got a whole load of them in my 20g.
 
  • Thread starter
  • Thread Starter
  • #7

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
My little pond snails reproduced to the tune of about 6 then as soon as the food supply got cut down by the Mystery Snail and the 2 Zebra Nerita the reproduction stopped. I think all snail reproduction depends on food supply and the only reason that they are so plentiful in Omorrokh's tank is that she has been doing a fishless cycle and "feeding" her tank. With no fish to compete for the flakes, the snails have had a grand time. When she has fish in there competing for the food and less food to be had there will be fewer pond snails. I got rid of my pond snails when I transferred into the large tank for the girls as I was afraid that I was pushing things with all of them in there so they became fish food. (Yes, it was hard for me to do but better than just throwing them out)

Rose
 

0morrokh

Fishlore VIP
Messages
4,503
Reaction score
7
Points
208
Experience
5 to 10 years
Oh, yes, mine were having a banquet on all the flakes and bits of dead plants and algae everywhere. So they figured they better make a whole bunch more to help enjoy the feast. ;D Hopefully now that I cleaned up the tank and got fish, the reproduction slows down. They are really cool but I can't have them taking over, if ya know what I mean. :
 

ebbandflow

Valued Member
Messages
284
Reaction score
0
Points
176
The snails in my tank are probably what your talking about 0morrokh. They arent growing too fast or multiplying that much... basically cuz there is almost no waste in that tank. Satin always eats all the food and there are so many plants in the tank that I still havent seen the nitrate levels rise at all. I'm thinking of putting some of them in my bigger tank but I'm afraid of an explosion. I wouldnt care if there were a lot of them as long as having snails in the tank didnt cut down on how many fish I can have. Does it?

I was just shining a flashlight on the snails and their outline glows neon. Their shells are real cool too. I cant seem to get good pix of them though. I'll post them if I do.
 
  • Thread starter
  • Thread Starter
  • #10

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
I wouldn't think the snails would cut down on your fish population unless you kept a LOT of the big ones. Correct me if I am wrong anyone, but I do not believe unless you want breeding that you want more than one big Mystery Snail in a tank. They do get big (Ivory is half the size of a golf ball already and I have only had him a month)

Rose
 

0morrokh

Fishlore VIP
Messages
4,503
Reaction score
7
Points
208
Experience
5 to 10 years
Pond snails are so tiny I doubt they would add enough bio load to cut down on your fish. I will try to find a link to Pond Snails with pics to make sure we are talking about the same thing. They can reproduce very quickly (I went from 1 to like 2 dozen in a few weeks), but that is really dependant on food supply. There really is no problem with having a lot of them though. I personally think they are so awesome. I have been observing the behavior of my snails and it is really quite interesting. I have seen them fighting (i think) and little snails riding on the shells of big ones. I just think they are so cute. Back to the point, I don't think you would need to worry about a huge population explosion as long as you regulate the amount of potential snail food--dropped flakes, dead plants, etc--that is in the tank.

You are right Rose about keeping only one Mystery Snail unless you want to breed. They need a male and female to breed unlike Pond Snails, so if you don't want more than one snail you can just get one. But if you don't mind possibly having a TON of snails I don't think there is any problem with keeping two together.
 
  • Thread starter
  • Thread Starter
  • #13

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
Thanks, that is good information. I had looked for more information on snails and couldn't find many usable sites. Most of what I found was confusing and hard to understand.

I still am amazed to see how fast my little snails are growing. I am just hoping that they do well as they are really pretty.

Rose
 

0morrokh

Fishlore VIP
Messages
4,503
Reaction score
7
Points
208
Experience
5 to 10 years
chickadee said:
Thanks, that is good information. I had looked for more information on snails and couldn't find many usable sites. Most of what I found was confusing and hard to understand.
That had good info? I'd better go back and read it! ;D I was just looking for a picture to make sure ebbandflow and I were talking about the same kind of snail. Didn't actually think to read the article. :
 

ebbandflow

Valued Member
Messages
284
Reaction score
0
Points
176
Ok, still havent identified which snails they are. Being partially colorblind is not helping. But their shells are more like the limpets in shape. They are some uniform color (either brown or red I think) and there are what appear to be little clear spots all over it. I havent seen any pictures of snails that look like this. Any ideas?
 
  • Thread starter
  • Thread Starter
  • #17

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
I am really mostly positive you are talking about pond snails. Are they about ____ this long? Mine were.

Rose
 

ebbandflow

Valued Member
Messages
284
Reaction score
0
Points
176
The last picture under the posting "Surprise!!!" is of the snails I have. Its the best one. They are tiny. Maybe about the size of the eraser on the end of a pencil, possibly smaller.
 
  • Thread starter
  • Thread Starter
  • #19

chickadee

Fishlore VIP
Messages
6,676
Reaction score
20
Points
358
Experience
5 to 10 years
We are playing "post tag" tonight. I just left a message on that thread that the snails in your picture are the Zebra Nerita Snail. Pooh and Piglet in my little girl's tank are of that variety. They never get very big. Mine are about like a 1 cm ball. (well not really ball but you know what i mean)

Rose
 

ebbandflow

Valued Member
Messages
284
Reaction score
0
Points
176
lol... we really are. well, ill stop it now cuz i should really head to bed (its 4 am here!). thanks for the id though. ill look them up tomorrow.
 
Toggle Sidebar

Aquarium Calculator

Follow FishLore!





Top Bottom