Betta Splenden + Neon/Cardinal Tetras

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HI all,
Just joined today, great website! I plan on cycling my new 3 gallon (12 Litre) fish tank (LxWxH; 31x17x20cm) and get a nice aquarium going. Its my first fish aquarium for me since my goldfish as a kid!  I was thinking of one nice male Betta Splenden and some Neon or Cardinal Tetras. Are they compatible? Also, with this size tank, how many Neon / Cardinals would you suggest!?

I have a pump, heater and nice red gravel. Will washing them in vinegar disinfect them? (I heard soap residue kills fish!)

Cheers everybody and thanks for any help!

Simon! (Australia)
 

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Welcome To FishLore

A 3 Gallon tank is not big enough for a Betta and other fish, to be honest I wouldnt reccomend a betta in this size tank.
Neon Tetras I guess would be acceptable tank mates, but they sometimes do nip at fins as for most of the tetras.
I would reccomend something different sorry

Chris
 

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First , just rinse your gravel in plain water until clean. If it's new just rinse the dust out of it.
A lone Male Betta can be kept in a three gallon tank with meticulous attention to water changes(we recommend five gallon tanks). 50% water changes each week and keep a check on the water test readings. Any Ammonia or Nitrites would indicate a need for an immediate water change. But the tank is too small for him to have any tank mates. He will enjoy a few plants whether they be live or artificial.
Most bettas don't enjoy tank mates that swim at the same level as they do unless it's a really large tank as they are severly territorial. But some thing that lives on the bottom works great such as Otocinclus(Otos), Corydoras(Corys), Bristlenose. Hope this helps
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Thanks Chris and Carol for the replies!

You guys would be shocked at the Betta market in Australia. Almost every pet shop sells Splendens in tiny 500ml-1 litre tanks and claI'm "hardy, easy to keep first fish, and IS COMFORTABLE with small tanks!" I remember last valentines day they kept advertising bettas in a heart shape tank the size of your open hand and about 10 cm deep! No wonder beginners get confused!

And I thought 12 Litres would be an olympic pool for him/her!  

I have also been reading books from the library and the tropical ones (about half the books) state a fish density of 2.5 cm (1 inch) of fish per 65-79 sq cm of surface area for an unairated tank (tropical, 130sq cm for cold fish). SO I would have thought my tank (30cm x 17cm = 510 sq cm) would hold about 6x 2.5 cm fish (15 cm total). Given a splenden of 5cm that still leaves one, maybe two extra small fish. Chris said even 3 gallon would be too smal for ONE?

Why is there such a discrepancy everywhere?  ???

And I know I will need to look after the water but I will have no problem doing that because the tank will be only 4 metres from the kitchen sink so I can do a partial change anytime really easily and quickly!

I'm off to the pet store this afternoon to by nitrate and ammonia test kits! Fun! 

Thanks again for the continuing chat!

Simon.
 

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Well..they can live in a 3 gallon tank, but they won't be happy with such small space. I hate it when people say that you can keep them in such small space because of their labyrinth orgins. They are suffering because of their unique features!!! :-[ :'(
 

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The conditions of survive and thrive are two different things .Most fish can survive in apalling(sp?) conditions for a period of time. But thrive, explore, and develop a personality all their own in a larger environment.
If he's that close to the sink I would think water changes would be easy. Don't forget the water dechlorinator I have a five gallon in the bathroom with three guppies and two cory fry and it makes water changes so easy.
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Just wondering.... if I put an algae treatment in the water, do I have to remove the carbon from the filter first, or will it work with it in? (I know for like white spot treatments the bottle says I have to, but the algae one doesn't) Just wondering what you fish experts out there think!?
 

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