Betta Sorority Tank Plans

Sina-key
  • #41
Well I have 3 males and 16 females in a 75 gallon. It looks like a jungle. Its been set up since January of 2016 .

Since we have this conversation can I ask what is the minimum tank size for having two males with a group of females or 2 males by themselves without any trouble?? ( assuming the tank is heavily planted)

Edit: I have no intention to add my male to my newly stablished sorority at least I know it won’t work with Jeff my male crown tail he is mean.
 
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david1978
  • #42
I'm not really sure. I wouldn't add a male till you were into something like a 3 foot tank and a second in a 4 foot tank. I have heard of people keeping 2 males in a 40 gallon breeder .
 
Sina-key
  • #43
I'm not really sure. I wouldn't add a male till you were into something like a 3 foot tank and a second in a 4 foot tank. I have heard of people keeping 2 males in a 40 gallon breeder .

Thanks david1978 for answering, and thank you all for giving tips and infos for sorority. For now everyone are okay(except some shrimps which their color wasn’t brown enough to camouflage) girls flare at each other and chase each other but their chasing won’t last more than 10 second.
 
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Iverg1
  • #44
Can we see pics? I want to see all your girls!
 
Sina-key
  • #45
I sent some pictures before but here are some more:

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This is Aqua

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Cersei(she earned the name)

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Blood moon

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Dolores

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No name yet

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No name yet
There is seventh one too her name is Jade and she is green but she likes to hangout near and behind my red cabombas so no photos of her yet
 
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Aquilist
  • #46
Beautiful! I'd love a sorority one day!
 
Penny22
  • #47
This is a 75 gallon cycled tank. I have 11 corydoras, 9 plates, two mystery snails, 3 kuhlI loaches (waiting for my lps to get,more), and 11 female Bettas. Just curious on what y'all think of the scape. The plants are in the process of growing,out, but any suggestions?
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ValerieAdams
  • #48
I would personally add some plants with some height to the back, and just add more plants in general
 
Penny22
  • #49
I would personally add some plants with some height to the back, and just add more plants in general
What plants do you suggest? I do not have a very good light fyi
 
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Guanchy
  • #51
I would to add more plants to the tank especially tall ones. With that many female bettas you need lots of plants. but the tank looks great I like that you have sand on one side and rocks in the other, it looks like two tanks in one lol.

I would also ada more driftwood! you can add some nice gif tall pieces in there
 
Penny22
  • #52
Awesome! Thanks y'all just out in an order for jungle Val and driftwood
 
Guanchy
  • #53
show pictures once you set it up!!
 
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Penny22
  • #54
Doesnt make much of a differenece
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Guanchy
  • #55
I would get large and thick pieces of driftwood. look at these two tanks

Rena 350 With Heavy Bogwood
 
Penny22
  • #56
I would get large and thick pieces of driftwood. look at these two tanks

Rena 350 With Heavy Bogwood
Where would I get some?
 
Guanchy
  • #57
Where would I get some?
You can get them from many places, my local fish store has tons of them. I'm not sure where you are located at but some petcos and petlands here sell them too. Or you can always check online, amazon or ebay
 
Penny22
  • #58
Order some awesome driftwood, but won't come in til the 14th, so ive added some fake plants just until it gets there. Also I have,one betta everyone seems to hate, but she is holding,her own. I'm still gonna take her back to the LPS for everyones safety.
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ValerieAdams
  • #59
Order some awesome driftwood, but won't come in til the 14th, so ive added some fake plants just until it gets there. Also I have,one betta everyone seems to hate, but she is holding,her own. I'm still gonna take her back to the LPS for everyones safety. View attachment 508538
I vote keep everything in there AND add the driftwood. It looks good!! And you can never have too much cover for a betta sorority
 
Guanchy
  • #60
agreed! it looks great, I would only replace that red plant for a more natural looking one
 
Penny22
  • #61

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Got my driftwood in, more jungle Val, and anacharis! (Spell check) so happy with how it has turned out. Now just waiting for the plant growth! Thanks for the help!
 
Fanatic
  • #62
That's a beautiful tank, so big for a sorority!
 
wrs2
  • #63
I just wanted to make a post to add to the countless others about why sorority tanks are a BAD idea! To start, this was my 3rd attempt at a sorority tank. I knew they were bad news, but I wanted to try again anyways. I thought I had a successful sorority as it has been at least 6 months with no major issues. I thought there was some nipping a month or so back, so I removed the Rasbora from the girls tank and the nipping if fins stopped. One of the Rasbora was a bit of a jerk. They’re in a nice heavily planted tank always swimming around with each other. The tank had a Blue Green Algae outbreak so I had to take everything out to try and remove the algae. It was everywhere! I added some fake plants and hardscape to the tank so the girls still had territory, but they still schooled around together like it was nothing. I found one of the girls dead while doing the algae removal and thought nothing of it as she was a bug girl and thought maybe she was just bloated from eating too much. Now that she’s gone the heirachy is ina disarray and the girls, over night, look like they went to war! All small bites all over each other and now covered in what looks like fungus. I had to separate them all and try to treat them. Two died already and two more will likely soon as well. This tank was a mistake and I want everyone out there who thinks they want a sorority to reconsider because they may be good one day but the next can be a total war! Be warned!
 
TheWanderingFish
  • #64
A sorority was something I was considering trying and after reading all the horror stories I decided it wasn't worth it. Reading your post has reinforced that so thank you. Much as I love bettas, here it does indeed seem to be a case of 'too much of a good thing is bad (for them)'
 
wrs2
  • #65
Yes definitely! I thought because they were getting on so well they would be fine together during the algae fight, but nope! There was one girl who looked perfectly fine too, but she was dead this morning as well. I don’t know how many will survive the fight. I wish I caught it sooner and separated them, but this would’ve likely happened at one point or another with the one betta dying, this was inevitable.
 
w3amz
  • #66
It's unnatural and as you said can go wrong in a heartbeat even after time. In the wild bettas have about a square meter each (3 feet by 3 feet) between their territories. This is like having a 100 gallon tank each and even then it's fully covered with vegetation so they can't see each other.
 
CanadianFishFan
  • #67
Well now I am more Pernod of mine. My 4 have never nipped. Sororitys are risky but I am going with it!
 
Happy Mama
  • #68
I just wanted to make a post to add to the countless others about why sorority tanks are a BAD idea! To start, this was my 3rd attempt at a sorority tank. I knew they were bad news, but I wanted to try again anyways. I thought I had a successful sorority as it has been at least 6 months with no major issues. I thought there was some nipping a month or so back, so I removed the Rasbora from the girls tank and the nipping if fins stopped. One of the Rasbora was a bit of a jerk. They’re in a nice heavily planted tank always swimming around with each other. The tank had a Blue Green Algae outbreak so I had to take everything out to try and remove the algae. It was everywhere! I added some fake plants and hardscape to the tank so the girls still had territory, but they still schooled around together like it was nothing. I found one of the girls dead while doing the algae removal and thought nothing of it as she was a bug girl and thought maybe she was just bloated from eating too much. Now that she’s gone the heirachy is ina disarray and the girls, over night, look like they went to war! All small bites all over each other and now covered in what looks like fungus. I had to separate them all and try to treat them. Two died already and two more will likely soon as well. This tank was a mistake and I want everyone out there who thinks they want a sorority to reconsider because they may be good one day but the next can be a total war! Be warned!
I’m curious...what size was your tank? Before adding to a community, did they come from separate cups?
 
BettaBelieveIt123
  • #69
Yeah after hearing horror stories I would not attempt one, Yet after I bred my Plakat male and koi female, I was left with around 15 females and removed all the males, so far the girls have been tolerating each other, with daily hierarchy challenges. I'm hoping since they grew up together that maybe it would work out. If I notice too much aggression, I will be forced to remove and separate.
 
wrs2
  • #70
I’m curious...what size was your tank? Before adding to a community, did they come from separate cups?
It’s a 20 long and yes they were all from different places and separate cups.
 
Rtessy
  • #71
Dang, so sorry to hear that
Unfortunately, I keep hearing that they fail after 6-12 months, personally I don't think I'll keep one.
Maybe next time (if you're up for it, sorry man ) try some wilds? I've got a 20 long that's got quite a few imbellis, they get along well. Had a m/f pair, but honestly I think you should go with more, when it was just them it didn't go all that well.
 
wrs2
  • #72
I'm so over betta fish to be honest. The quality of bettas has gone down hill. I find it difficult to keep them alive for more than 9 months. Something always seems to go wrong health wise. These girls were doing great, but now 4 of them have died, one of them is a complete disaster and the other 3 looks somewhat okay, yet they are covered in fungus! Well not really covered covered, just in a few spots. I am trying to treat them, so hopefully they will be okay! I never even saw them fight with each other. It must have happened over night. It's just very sad.
 
Rtessy
  • #73
Aw man, I'm so sorry! Gosh, that sounds like it's just awful
I feel you though, I can't seem to find any normal bettas without serious health issues. Sure, they're fine for about 3-5 months (not all are, some passed before then), then some random obscure thing pops up. I think I even had one with scoliosis.
Fingers crossed that the rest pull through!!
 
SM1199
  • #74
Aw man, I'm so sorry! Gosh, that sounds like it's just awful
I feel you though, I can't seem to find any normal bettas without serious health issues. Sure, they're fine for about 3-5 months (not all are, some passed before then), then some random obscure thing pops up. I think I even had one with scoliosis.
Fingers crossed that the rest pull through!!
I had a rescue double tail with scoliosis, it's certainly possible! It's a genetic defect that double tails with two copies of the double tail gene will show, along with a few other odd physical abnormalities.
 
Rtessy
  • #75
It's not letting me quote posts, but how odd! I'd heard of it happening, but it was a normal long tail (halfmoon or delta), and just the way the spine curved, I'm not sure it was scoliosis or something else. At first, I thought it was SBD, but soon it became apparent that the spine bent upwards, almost a perfect curve, but the head was sitting about 1/2-1" below the end of the tail (not fin). Poor little dude!!
 
SM1199
  • #76
It's not letting me quote posts, but how odd! I'd heard of it happening, but it was a normal long tail (halfmoon or delta), and just the way the spine curved, I'm not sure it was scoliosis or something else. At first, I thought it was SBD, but soon it became apparent that the spine bent upwards, almost a perfect curve, but the head was sitting about 1/2-1" below the end of the tail (not fin). Poor little dude!!
That's really strange, I've never heard of that before. I know some bettas will have "hunchbacks," but that sounds different, or maybe just a very exaggerated hunchback. I don't think it would be scoliosis, since scoliosis is the spine bending laterally off-center, and that sounds like the spine was bending dorsoventrally. Really strange either way though, poor guy!
 
wrs2
  • #77
I don't usually have as many issues with the girls as I do with the boys - especially the fancy tail ones.
Of course I say no issues with the girls as these 4 are dealing with fungus. Tomorrow I'm going to start a fungus med. 1st day I did Methalyn (sp) blue baths. Then kanaplex. Why I have no idea. Fingers crossed these 4 do okay! I wish I could just do a peroxide swab, but I'm unsure if that would treat a fungus.
 
Rtessy
  • #78
Best of luck dude!! I'm rooting for you!

And yeah, it wasn't a hunch back, because it never went back down, just looked like half a parabola
 
AbraCadaver
  • #79
Try ich-x. It’s wonderful, and treats multiple things including fungal infections. Most of my fish are Bettas, and all of them but 3 are ones I rescued and treated for fin rot or ich. I have 3 males and 7 females in the same tank, it’s gorgeous! Some of my males are cranky so they have their very own 10 gallon tanks. But yeah, try ich-x. It usually takes about 3 days to see improvement and 5-7 to totally heal the fish of the disease! I swear by it. It’s saved a bunch of lives in this house.
 
imba
  • #80
Sorry to hear this.

There are so many other options for a nice community tank, I feel that I'd never want to risk trying a betta sorority
 

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