Betta question

  1. Tdahl09 Member Member

    So I have a king male and was wondering about adding a "friend" to his tank. He was living with 2 baby cray fish but they started to get to big to live in the 10gl with him I felt like they were cramped.
    Since I removed them he seems kind of bored I guess...
    I added some ghost shrimp but he doesn't seem to even notice them.
    Tried some mystery snails... Again nothing.
    So wondering if anyone has any ideas?
    He used to "hunt" the crays but never tried to bite them or even flare at them and if they lunged at him with their claws up he would back away.
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  2. PJMattio Initiate Member

    Bettas really prefer to be left alone. They all have different personalities and some may rarely get along with something else but from every source I have seen they don't like tank mates.
     

  3. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    If yours does seem to be one that is pretty docile though, you could try 3-5 harlequin rasbora
     
  4. Tdahl09 Member Member

    Yeah I know but he seemed so much more active and explored the tank with the crays in it, now he just surfs the glass in the front of the tank.
    I know he can't possibly see that far but across the room is the 20gl with His cray friends in it, it's like he is trying to get to them lol

    I have other tanks to put them in if it doesn't work out is there a safe way to test it?
    I was thinking maybe get a breeder box and put him in it then add the other fish?
     

  5. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    If you have the time, you could put them in and watch them,(on and off) for about an hour.. If you see him flaring watch him to make sure he's just trying to look "big" and not about attack.
    A breeder box may also work.
     
  6. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    Harlequin rasbora aren't appropriate for a 10 gal.

    While you may think he's bored, adding fish to his tank will probably stress him out. And he may not be bored - we tend to anthropomorphize with our fish a lot.

    Why not try adding some cherry shrimp? He can feed on some of the shrimplets and that'll keep him active.

    Or add more plants to give him more exploring opportunities.
     
  7. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    According to liveaquaria.com they are, sorry ;)
     

  8. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    LiveAquaria isn't a reputable site for fish water requirements and tank sizes :)
     
  9. Tdahl09 Member Member

    I know I'm probly just anthropomorphizing my fish but he isn't acting the same putting human feelings on it was the only way I could explain it.

    There are 6 ghost shrimp in the tank and he doesn't notice them. Any I added plants and a fake hollow log and a few cave lots for him to explore
     
  10. Cef Member Member

    I just use liveaquaria for image verification and cross checking, or it there pics there also inaccurate?
     

  11. FallenOwl Well Known Member Member

    Where did you look to find the minimum tank size for harlequin rasbora? The top four websites (on Google) all said a 10 gallon minimum..
    -Aquariumtidings.com
    -pets.com
    -Liveaquaria.com
    -About.com
    I am in no way trying to argue, sorry if it comes across like I am :)
     
  12. hampalong Fishlore VIP Member

    Bettas don't have 'friends' (anthropomorphism again :) ). They're loners that roam over large expanses (the ones that occur in 'large expanses'), and are territorially aggressive about their 'personal space' wherever they happen to be. In a small tank this behaviour is sometimes modified but they tolerate other animals, at best.

    Fish do have very good eyesight however, and can easily see across a room. It might be wanting to go and find a female (although that's not usually a good idea unless they're in a big tank).

    I wouldn't call any of those 'top four' websites. The best websites for information about fish are the specialist websites, rather than the most visited or hobby-orientated. Fish will live in tanks that are too small to give them enough space, and most websites tend to just copy information between themselves.

    FishBase gives a minimum tank size of 2' for harlequins.
     
  13. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    I use Fishbase and SeriouslyFish.
     
  14. Tdahl09 Member Member

    What do u think about my question? The original post
     
  15. Flowingfins Fishlore VIP Member

    The only tank mates I would try are shrimp and snails. Other fish are too risky.
     
  16. Tdahl09 Member Member

    Yeah that was kind of my fear
     
  17. rabbott Initiate Member

    Try a small, dull colored fish species that doesn't nip and likes the same water as the beta. Have a plan for the fish if it doesn't work. I like to take my beta out when introducing new fish so he feels like he is going into their territory and not them going into his. When the new fish is in float the beta and watch for aggression. He may flare at first but this should stop or greatly lessen within 24 hours. Once he is calm put him in the tank and have a net handy to separate them if necessary. He might be a little aggressive and that is ok but if he is causing the fish harm it will not work. Minor aggression gets better over time. I have a ten gallon tank with a young pleco, a male beta, and several feeder guppies. They all get along great. The beta keeps a 2 inch bubble where no other fish goes. The only issue I have had is that during feeding time the guppies tend to go into his territory. He has never hurt them though. Good luck.
     
  18. Flowingfins Fishlore VIP Member

    Bettas should not be kept with fish in anything except a 20 gallon long aquarium or larger, and even then it's risky. The only option for the OP is shrimp and snails.
     
  19. TexasDomer Fishlore Legend Member

    I gave my opinion in post #6.
     
  20. Aquaphobia Fishlore Legend Member

    Give him some red cherry shrimp! I put them in my well-planted sorority tank and though I feel bad for the ones that don't survive enough do to keep the population going and my girls amused when I'm not around!

    It may be that your betta doesn't really see the ghost shrimp. They do tend to disappear into their surroundings! The RCS are at least visible:)