Betta Having Fungus?

alpha34
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I have a dumbo ear plakat betta in a 5 gallon tank which is fully cycled before adding fish. 0 Ammonia, 0 nitrite, 10 Nitrate. Water Temp is 78F , also I have heater in tank. I brought the fish 6 days back and today I noticed there is white cotton like thing on fish I believe its Fungal infection not sure.
So I started with Seachem Polyguard medication and added salt also.
Fish is eating food and acting normally. I also have Pimafix & Melafix. So should I continue with same treatment?
 

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Crazycoryfishlady
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Hmmm some of his scales are raised which could either mean the scales/skin is infected, or there is swelling beneath the skin.

You could start by doing a water change to remove some of the salt, salt isn't the best for fish, though it helps often as a 30 second bath.
And it especially shouldn't be used while medicating as it lower oxygen content as well as medications do too.

Do you have a bubble stone you could add?

Also forgive me if I call your betta a female, I've got a female who looks kinda like that.

I think right now, one of the best things you could do is remove some of the salt, and do a peroxide dip/rub.

Get a bit of peroxide on cotton swab if you have them, or a cotton ball/paper towel if you don't.
(Rather than netting the betta, try to scoop it up with a cup or bowl, it's less stressful and less harmful to the scales and slime coat.)

Cup the betta, lift affected areas out of the water if you can (probably need a net if you don't have cotton swabs)
And gently wipe peroxide over the area, wipe it back and forth 3-5 times to make sure you got a good amount on.
Just be careful not to get a huge amount of peroxide by it's face and gills. (a little bit won't hurt a lot could)

You could also do a bath, or add peroxide right to the water.
A bath would be about a minute minutes in 3 tablespoon of peroixde in a gallon tub, you don't want to over do it because of the salt and meds.
This looks either fungal or bacterial, but I'm thinking it's a bacterial infection.
 

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alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Hmmm some of his scales are raised which could either mean the scales/skin is infected, or there is swelling beneath the skin.

You could start by doing a water change to remove some of the salt, salt isn't the best for fish, though it helps often as a 30 second bath.
And it especially shouldn't be used while medicating as it lower oxygen content as well as medications do too.

Do you have a bubble stone you could add?

Also forgive me if I call your betta a female, I've got a female who looks kinda like that.

I think right now, one of the best things you could do is remove some of the salt, and do a peroxide dip/rub.

Get a bit of peroxide on cotton swab if you have them, or a cotton ball/paper towel if you don't.
(Rather than netting the betta, try to scoop it up with a cup or bowl, it's less stressful and less harmful to the scales and slime coat.)

Cup the betta, lift affected areas out of the water if you can (probably need a net if you don't have cotton swabs)
And gently wipe peroxide over the area, wipe it back and forth 3-5 times to make sure you got a good amount on.
Just be careful not to get a huge amount of peroxide by it's face and gills. (a little bit won't hurt a lot could)

You could also do a bath, or add peroxide right to the water.
A bath would be about a minute minutes in 3 tablespoon of peroixde in a gallon tub, you don't want to over do it because of the salt and meds.
This looks either fungal or bacterial, but I'm thinking it's a bacterial infection.
The local Pet store had put this betta in small 1 gallon tank which had lot of dragon stone in it with very little space to swim and I think it had got its scales scratched which might explain the fungal infection but wasn't sure
I have a sponge filter with a air stone. And its a male.
Right now I'm treating with Polyguard which is a very broad spectrum anti-bacterial & fungal medication as per Seachem website. Should I discontinue this?
 
Crazycoryfishlady
  • #4
The local Pet store had put this betta in small 1 gallon tank which had lot of dragon stone in it with very little space to swim and I think it had got its scales scratched which might explain the fungal infection but wasn't sure
I have a sponge filter with a air stone. And its a male.
Right now I'm treating with Polyguard which is a very broad spectrum anti-bacterial & fungal medication as per Seachem website. Should I discontinue this?

I've never used it and I'm unsure of the ingredients as of right now, if it's both antI fungual and bacterial, it may do it's job and work, but it could also take a bit longer for recovery unless you use a med specifically for what this disease is.
I'm not totally sure what it is, but the dragon stone totally could have done it.
I've seen some really sharp pieces that seem more like death traps than decor.
Adding more photos as you go helps as well.

I'll tag some others who I know are a bit more knowledgeable than I am in hopes they can answer about the med, or direct you to one that will work better.
Just keep in mind that you may get a bunch of different answers, and some may not be the right ones for your fish.
There is a wide variety of fungus and bacteria, so there's a wide variety of meds to treat "the same thing".
Look into whatever meds you are advised to use, and make sure you feel good and right about using it before you do.

I had a quick decision to make when my fish got fuzz, I could either treat them as if they just had a slime issue or a parasite, or I could treat them for a specifc columnaris strain.
I could have killed my fish by treating them, they were very weak to begin with and were starting to die quickly.
I felt safe using kanaplex as I truly believed it was columnaris, and I believed the medicine would do more good than bad.
I ened up being recommened a totally different med that treats a different illness, and I'm glad I didn't use it, because my decision to use kanaplex saved their lives.

Anyway, time to call on the help.

Mcasella has been very helpful to me before.
Hoping you may have some advice or idea about this fungus/bacteria and the med treatment.

Dave125g any thoughts? I'm definitely thinking a post wound infection.

Goldiemom have you used these meds before? I know you do a bit of work on fungus posts.

KimberlyG I've also found you give great advice too, any thoughts on treatment for this one?

Islandvic I forgot if you do disease? I know I've seen you a lot more active lately.
I think you gave me some advice once.
 
KimberlyG
  • #5
The local Pet store had put this betta in small 1 gallon tank which had lot of dragon stone in it with very little space to swim and I think it had got its scales scratched which might explain the fungal infection but wasn't sure
I have a sponge filter with a air stone. And its a male.
Right now I'm treating with Polyguard which is a very broad spectrum anti-bacterial & fungal medication as per Seachem website. Should I discontinue this?
Since you have started the medication, continue it. Stopping before treatment is finished leads to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria. How long have you been treating? Does it seem to be helping?
 
Dave125g
  • #6
I've never used it and I'm unsure of the ingredients as of right now, if it's both antI fungual and bacterial, it may do it's job and work, but it could also take a bit longer for recovery unless you use a med specifically for what this disease is.
I'm not totally sure what it is, but the dragon stone totally could have done it.
I've seen some really sharp pieces that seem more like death traps than decor.
Adding more photos as you go helps as well.

I'll tag some others who I know are a bit more knowledgeable than I am in hopes they can answer about the med, or direct you to one that will work better.
Just keep in mind that you may get a bunch of different answers, and some may not be the right ones for your fish.
There is a wide variety of fungus and bacteria, so there's a wide variety of meds to treat "the same thing".
Look into whatever meds you are advised to use, and make sure you feel good and right about using it before you do.

I had a quick decision to make when my fish got fuzz, I could either treat them as if they just had a slime issue or a parasite, or I could treat them for a specifc columnaris strain.
I could have killed my fish by treating them, they were very weak to begin with and were starting to die quickly.
I felt safe using kanaplex as I truly believed it was columnaris, and I believed the medicine would do more good than bad.
I ened up being recommened a totally different med that treats a different illness, and I'm glad I didn't use it, because my decision to use kanaplex saved their lives.

Anyway, time to call on the help.

Mcasella has been very helpful to me before.
Hoping you may have some advice or idea about this fungus/bacteria and the med treatment.

Dave125g any thoughts? I'm definitely thinking a post wound infection.

Goldiemom have you used these meds before? I know you do a bit of work on fungus posts.

KimberlyG I've also found you give great advice too, any thoughts on treatment for this one?

Islandvic I forgot if you do disease? I know I've seen you a lot more active lately.
I think you gave me some advice once.
I haven't read the entire thread, but the initial picture is definitely an injury. If that's the area where there's fungal growth then I agree a post wound Infection.
 

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alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
Since you have started the medication, continue it. Stopping before treatment is finished leads to antibiotic resistant strains of bacteria. How long have you been treating? Does it seem to be helping? I would definitely do the peroxide that crazycoryfishlady suggested.
I have been treating it for 4 days and the infection doesn't seem to be growing but the area of infection has slightly shrunk.
As per the instructions the course has to be continued max of 2 weeks.
 
alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
I've never used it and I'm unsure of the ingredients as of right now, if it's both antI fungual and bacterial, it may do it's job and work, but it could also take a bit longer for recovery unless you use a med specifically for what this disease is.
I'm not totally sure what it is, but the dragon stone totally could have done it.
I've seen some really sharp pieces that seem more like death traps than decor.
Adding more photos as you go helps as well.

I'll tag some others who I know are a bit more knowledgeable than I am in hopes they can answer about the med, or direct you to one that will work better.
Just keep in mind that you may get a bunch of different answers, and some may not be the right ones for your fish.
There is a wide variety of fungus and bacteria, so there's a wide variety of meds to treat "the same thing".
Look into whatever meds you are advised to use, and make sure you feel good and right about using it before you do.

I had a quick decision to make when my fish got fuzz, I could either treat them as if they just had a slime issue or a parasite, or I could treat them for a specifc columnaris strain.
I could have killed my fish by treating them, they were very weak to begin with and were starting to die quickly.
I felt safe using kanaplex as I truly believed it was columnaris, and I believed the medicine would do more good than bad.
I ened up being recommened a totally different med that treats a different illness, and I'm glad I didn't use it, because my decision to use kanaplex saved their lives.

Anyway, time to call on the help.

Mcasella has been very helpful to me before.
Hoping you may have some advice or idea about this fungus/bacteria and the med treatment.

Dave125g any thoughts? I'm definitely thinking a post wound infection.

Goldiemom have you used these meds before? I know you do a bit of work on fungus posts.

KimberlyG I've also found you give great advice too, any thoughts on treatment for this one?

Islandvic I forgot if you do disease? I know I've seen you a lot more active lately.
I think you gave me some advice once.
Seachem Polyguard has Active ingredients: sulfathiazole (36%), malachite green (1.9%), nitrofurantoin (0.14%), nitrofural (0.14%), quinacrine dihydrochloride (0.27%). Inactive ingredients: excipients (61%) and I read somewhere that this is a combination of Kanaplex & Furan 2. So I went with this
 
alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
I had one question....Can I give hydrogen peroxide bath in 1 gallon tub as I tried applying the cotton swab but betta was too stressed so thought better to give bath than applying. Can I do this while I'm still medicating? or should I do the bath after the medication course?
 
KimberlyG
  • #10
I had one question....Can I give hydrogen peroxide bath in 1 gallon tub as I tried applying the cotton swab but betta was too stressed so thought better to give bath than applying. Can I do this while I'm still medicating? or should I do the bath after the medication course?
Edit: read my comment below
 

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alpha34
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  • #11
You can't do the bath. It's out side of the tank. You are not mixing meds or anything like that. It is topical.
You mean I can do the bath right? If yes then how much hydrogen peroxide to be used and for what duration the fish has to be kept in it?
 
Dave125g
  • #12
I would just finish the course of meds. After that keep the water pristine with daily water changes.
 
KimberlyG
  • #13
You mean I can do the bath right? If yes then how much hydrogen peroxide to be used and for what duration the fish has to be kept in it?
I don't actually do them. I do methylene blue baths. You don't have Kordon's Methylene Blue? I went to read dosage from a very good site and from what they were saying. No, I would not do it. especially since a betta is a labyrinth fish. I'm not comfortable suggesting it. I know people on here use it as a bath. If you would like to research it, start with the link below and go from there.



 
alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
I don't have methylene blue but polyguard has malachite green as one of the active ingredients this should right? Else I will buy methylene blue
 

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Dave125g
  • #15
Meth blue is better, but the green is also an antI fungal ,so it should work.
 
alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
hello all I had one question...how long does the fungal infection take to go I still see the white patch on my fish but its not spreading but has shrunk a little....
 
Dave125g
  • #17
A week mabee 2. It depends
 
alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #18
A week mabee 2. It depends
So its been more than week now ....After this treatment can I start Pimafix? or just go with adding salt
 

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Dave125g
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So its been more than week now ....After this treatment can I start Pimafix? or just go with adding salt
Not sure why my reply wasn't posting earlier lol.
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alpha34
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  • #20
Heres the current picture
 

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Dave125g
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I see a fishes injury healing. I don't see a fungal infection. Just keep her water pristine and it should be fine. Keep checking for any cotton like growth. For now it looks good.
Great job .
 
alpha34
  • Thread Starter
  • #22
I see a fishes injury healing. I don't see a fungal infection. Just keep her water pristine and it should be fine. Keep checking for any cotton like growth. For now it looks good.
Great job .
Thank You Dave...
 
Dave125g
  • #23
Your very welcome.
 
Demeter
  • #24
I don't think that's fungus either. Not fuzzy and the area around doesn't appear to be infected. Ever heard of lymphocystis? From my understanding it's a viral type illness, much like warts. They're not necessarily harmful or painful but they can certainly appear like scales with a thickened metallic layer. Sometimes area gets kinda lumpy and this is where the disease gets another name, cauliflower disease.

Not much to be done, just keep him happy. Sometimes the fish's immune system fights it off just fine and the fish recovers. He looks plenty healthy otherwise.
 

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