Help Betta Female Tail Type?

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Hi all , hope you are well
I recently purchased my first ever female betta (Gypsy) from my local lfs. I had wanted a little girlie for a while and came across this little gem by chance. The only one, sticking out like a sore thumb, in with your regular mixed red and blue VT ladies (or so they were labelled)
. She was priced the same at 2.99 and had a lovely little friendly nature on her so I thought why not! I was planning on it at some point anyway. So I figure she's a koi partial dragonscale? marble I'm assuming? Please correct me if I'm wrong! this is all new to me. But I have no idea how to tell the tail type with the girls, could somebody please lend me a hand with identifying her finnage? she had a different tail to the others and looks to be a plakat, but I'm so stumped when it comes to the different varieties of plakat and whether she actually is or not . Any help would be massively appreciated!

Here's some pics the day I got her
Gypsy Day 1 ID.png

And here's her settling in with her colours brightening up and nibbled dorsal healing
Gypsy Settled ID.png
 

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I think she is a halfmoon plakat. Her lower fin seems longer than typical plakat. She doesn’t have the shape of spade, delta, or veiltails. She is probably koi and has some dragonscale appearance.
 

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Her colouration could fit under the galaxy koi category. She has more rays than a plakat betta to be a plakat and her caudal fin spread isn't 180° to make her a halfmoon. She looks more like a super delta.
 
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I think she is a halfmoon plakat. Her lower fin seems longer than typical plakat. She doesn’t have the shape of spade, delta, or veiltails. She is probably koi and has some dragonscale appearance.
She definitely has 4 ray branches, just doesn't seem quite 180 degree spread so I wasn't sure. Can halfmoons be under? she is small still but I don't know if that would make much of a difference in spread?

Her colouration could fit under the galaxy koi category. She has more rays than a plakat betta to be a plakat and her caudal fin spread isn't 180° to make her a halfmoon. She looks more like a super delta.
Thank you! yes I was confused about her caudal not being 180 degree but having more ray branching. I'm not too familiar with delta nor super delta in all honesty. She's also young and I've read they can develop more ray branching with age? The galaxy koi are generally marble arent they? or can they have the locked in koi gene too? her iridescence seems to bee royal blue on one side and turquoise on the other lol so sorry for bombarding you with questions, I'm trying to figure out whether she'd make a good breeding prospect or not
 

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Thank you! yes I was confused about her caudal not being 180 degree but having more ray branching. I'm not too familiar with delta nor super delta in all honesty. She's also young and I've read they can develop more ray branching with age? The galaxy koi are generally marble arent they? or can they have the locked in koi gene too? her iridescence seems to bee royal blue on one side and turquoise on the other lol
Yes they can develop more ray branching as they get older. A lot of koi types will have the marble gene as it's very uncommon to get a true koi that doesn't change.
 
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Yes they can develop more ray branching as they get older. A lot of koi types will have the marble gene as it's very uncommon to get a true koi that doesn't change
Awesome, thanks again! I'll just keep watch on her development and form as she grows then, as she's only just about 1 inch
 

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I think she's a plakat. Plakats can have 4 or more rays. Typically it's the traditional plakats that have 2 rays and the halfmoon plakats can have more. I have a hmpk male that is very obviously a plakat, fully developed, over a year old and short plakat fins. There's no way he's a halfmoon or delta yet he has 6 rays.

Although yours does not have a full 180° cadual, I would still put her under the hmpk category rather than traditional plakat. There are different grades of hmpks. The ideal one has a straight across cadual but many (if not most) come up a bit short. Her analfin is the most telling. It has such a straight across edge like a plakat whereas a halfmoon typically has a large drop down or is somewhat rounded.

Still a very young betta and such a cutie! She's got a baby betta face lol. In the newest picture I could certainly label her as a samurai. That means they have a lot of iridescent scales along their back. Cellophane would also describe her see through fins.
 
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I think she's a plakat. Plakats can have 4 or more rays. Typically it's the traditional plakats that have 2 rays and the halfmoon plakats can have more. I have a hmpk male that is very obviously a plakat, fully developed, over a year old and short plakat fins. There's no way he's a halfmoon or delta yet he has 6 rays.

Although yours does not have a full 180° cadual, I would still put her under the hmpk category rather than traditional plakat. There are different grades of hmpks. The ideal one has a straight across cadual but many (if not most) come up a bit short. Her analfin is the most telling. It has such a straight across edge like a plakat whereas a halfmoon typically has a large drop down or is somewhat rounded.

Still a very young betta and such a cutie! She's got a baby betta face lol. In the newest picture I could certainly label her as a samurai. That means they have a lot of iridescent scales along their back. Cellophane would also describe her see through fins.
Thank you so much! Very informative post! I've only ever had male bettas before (Standard plakats and VTs in normal solid colours or cambodian) so having a female that's obviously less telling in the fin department and quite flashy in colour has me intrigued to learn more about their genetics. I'd never even heard of the samurai type before, though after having a quick google, you look to be correct! Her iridescent scaling doesn't look scattered enough to be a galaxy. But yes she is still very young and small so there's lots of room for development! when she flares she's very nearly at 180° but I wasn't sure if it had to be exact to classify as a hmpk so thank you for clearing that up! She is very cute I agree! thank you lol she's got a very sweet temperament too, will jump in my hand and over my fingers when I'm doing maintenance or trying to feed her lol!
 
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