Betta Breeding Journey- yellow fancy HMPK

PNWBettas
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Hey y’all! Welcome to my breeding project log. I will post my updates and info about my first ever breeding project. Thank you to philam who started my betta obsession, especially with the plakats. This has been a long time in the works but I’m finally ready!

I am starting with a pair of yellow fancy HMPK betta I imported from Vietnam. I will attach photos of the parents. The male did come with slight damage to his fin, likely took a chomp on it during transit, but it has already grown back in the two weeks since I got them.

I am spawning them in a plastic tub! I have started the conditioning process today and will release the female tomorrow. So far so good as the male is already hard at work on his bubble nest. Can’t wait to share my journey with you guys!



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ayeayeron
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Hi, I follow you on tiktok! I’m super excited to see how it turns out and i’m definitely following
 
PNWBettas
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Hi, I follow you on tiktok! I’m super excited to see how it turns out and i’m definitely following
Glad you found my post here! Can’t wait to share more.
 
depan89
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the pair looks awesome!! They are going to make gorgeous babies for sure! Good luck, following the post. Can I ask why have you covered the tub with the cling wrap? to prevent evaporation or water from splatting out or some other reason?
 
philam
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Omg! Perfect pair! Believe it or not, I was wanting to breed one of my male or female line to a fancy yellow line. I hope this will be a successful project for you! I’ll be following this! Good luck!
 
PNWBettas
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the pair looks awesome!! They are going to make gorgeous babies for sure! Good luck, following the post. Can I ask why have you covered the tub with the cling wrap? to prevent evaporation or water from splatting out or some other reason?
Yes! It’s my lid. Betta in general are high risk jumpers and when the male initially chases the female they are pretty speedy. I wanted to make sure there was no chance anyone jumped out!
Omg! Perfect pair! Believe it or not, I was wanting to breed one of my male or female line to a fancy yellow line. I hope this will be a successful project for you! I’ll be following this! Good luck!
Thank you!! Hope it goes well too
 
PNWBettas
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  • #7
Just wanted to post an update!

I added the female on Friday and he chased her for a bit. In under 2 hours they wrapped and I was able to catch some of it on camera! Unfortunately she didn’t release many eggs and the ones she did release they both ate . Once she went and hid I removed her. I will be reconditioning the pair for another week and giving it another try. I feel like the second time is the charm since they wrapped so quickly. I’m going to try and increase frequency of feeding a lot this week to see if that helps!

I will place the female back into the breeder tank in her box on Thursday.
 
PNWBettas
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  • #8
Okay were back, but with good news this time. I changed up my breeding setup and I'm spawning in a bucket this time. I added the female yesterday around 10am after another two weeks of conditioning. They just started to wrap about a half hour ago. Since its in a bucket its hard to tell what's going on but I have my phone up recording so hopefully Ill get some decent footage from above (for tiktok). Hoping they get some eggs fertilized this time! Ill check back in a few hours and see if I can spot some eggs.
 
PNWBettas
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I swore I didn’t see any eggs yesterday after they wrapped and I was so disappointed but today I see a few! I have no clue how many there are since most of his nest he built under a leaf. I’ll keep y’all updated within the next few days
 

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Megabeth
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Yay! I follow you on tik tok and im so interested in this journey
 
ayeayeron
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So excited!!
 
PNWBettas
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I think I see some little itty bitty fry! Not all are free swimming but I do believe I see a few that have hatched. It looked like my male (Monty) was picking them up, hopefully not eating them.

It is so hard to tell what is happening in a bucket, even though it worked well to spawn, it’s hard being a first time breeder and having to guess where we are at. I’ll remove him tomorrow no matter what and feed live foods. Hopefully I can also try and lower the water level and better see what we got.
 
Unknown9182
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He wouldn't be eating them, what he is doing is he is putting them back in the bubble nest (any fry that fall out)
 
ayeayeron
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YAY!!!!
 
PNWBettas
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He wouldn't be eating them, what he is doing is he is putting them back in the bubble nest (any fry that fall out)
That’s what I’m thinking. I’ve just heard of males eating them if he gets too stressed out which is my worry. Maybe I’m the one stressing too much haha.
 
PNWBettas
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Today we have fry! Very small and not a huge number (that’s preferred for me actually) but they are there! I’m going to keep them in the bucket for a few days then work on transferring them to a tank when I can
 
PNWBettas
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  • #17
A few little photos. Almost a week old now. Hard to see with the tannins but I would say I have at least 20
 

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PNWBettas
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It’s been a little while but here’s some more photos!
 

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PNWBettas
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More photos: I have very few, probably had some die off very early. But the ones I do have are growing fast


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PNWBettas
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Oh hey we got color!
 

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lucky123
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PNWBettas
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Okay, here’s the situation! 7 babies total (must have had die off early, sadly). Some ventral fin development issues. I’ve read things about microworms causing that, which I didn’t feed too often, I mostly fed bbs, but still had issues. But I have some cute little babies and I have more then enough people who will want to take them which is great. Here’s one of my males, he’s the same one from above, but he has changes color a lot. His dad has the marble gene, so I’m not surprised.

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I am actually going to be spawning another pair and giving breeding another go since I have so few babies. If anyone wants to see the pair, let me know. They are FCCP betta that I ordered specially. Going to be taking what I learned the first time and trying it again! This time I’m going to be getting a few more live cultures and ditch the microworms all together. Ill still do lots of bbs.
 
BettasAreSuperior
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Okay, here’s the situation! 7 babies total (must have had die off early, sadly). Some ventral fin development issues. I’ve read things about microworms causing that, which I didn’t feed too often, I mostly fed bbs, but still had issues. But I have some cute little babies and I have more then enough people who will want to take them which is great. Here’s one of my males, he’s the same one from above, but he has changes color a lot. His dad has the marble gene, so I’m not surprised.
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I am actually going to be spawning another pair and giving breeding another go since I have so few babies. If anyone wants to see the pair, let me know. They are FCCP betta that I ordered specially. Going to be taking what I learned the first time and trying it again! This time I’m going to be getting a few more live cultures and ditch the microworms all together. Ill still do lots of bbs.
I would love to buy one but for numerous reasons, I can't. Though in order to spread the word that these babies are for sale try going on the Buy, Sell, Trade section of this forum and uploading this. Good luck
 
PNWBettas
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I would love to buy one but for numerous reasons, I can't. Though in order to spread the word that these babies are for sale try going on the Buy, Sell, Trade section of this forum and uploading this. Good luck
Oh not an issue. I actually probably could sell them just locally if I wanted but I also have a decent following on my tiktok page, and have lots of people interested. This batch I’ll probably sell on my Instagram and local, and if I get another larger spawn, I’ll make a website.




Baby has been hard at work

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depan89
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Oh not an issue. I actually probably could sell them just locally if I wanted but I also have a decent following on my tiktok page, and have lots of people interested. This batch I’ll probably sell on my Instagram and local, and if I get another larger spawn, I’ll make a website.




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I'm curious, How do you do water changes while trying to breed them? I see there is no filter and heater. Is this the place where they breed and lay eggs? or will you transfer them to a different cycled tank after courtship?
 
PNWBettas
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I'm curious, How do you do water changes while trying to breed them? I see there is no filter and heater. Is this the place where they breed and lay eggs? or will you transfer them to a different cycled tank after courtship?
The actual spawning only tanks a few days so I dont do changes while they are together. I actually try and avoid the tank as much as possible to avoid stressing them out. The spawning tank itself has a heater and sponge filter in there. The sponge filter and the plants came from established tanks to control ammonia levels. Neither adult betta live in the spawning setup so after that I take them back to their normal tanks. Then the fry grow out in the spawning setup for a while. Once I have fry, I do water changes very very carefully, with a cup and airline tubing.


Side note, the FCCP pair was a success. I have eggs. Missed them wrapping sadly but oh well.
 
depan89
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oh wow. Such tedious process. Thanks for explaining. All the best for the next breeding. please show us the FCCP pair up close
 
PNWBettas
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I can photograph the female better tomorrow but here’s a photo of my male


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PNWBettas
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  • #29
I will hopefully get around to photographing some of the yellow fancy babies today. A lot of them are changing colors which is very cool to watch.

Also the eggs from the FCCP are hatching. I can see tails. Should be free swimming tomorrow or the next day. Its another smaller spawn which is just fine with me. I totally missed them wrapping which is disappointing, I really wanted to watch haha
 
Demeter
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Nice to see someone else taking an interest in breeding bettas. You have some nice pairs going!

Just a tip for preventing pelvic fin issues, make sure you clean the bottom of the glass in the fry tank every couple days. The ammonia from left over food that ends up rotting on the glass is what burns off their little pelvic fins as they are developing. Alternatively, you could add a layer of sand or leaf litter which may help. Don't be afraid to do lots of water changes after about 10 days free swimming. I did some experimenting when breeding bettas and water changes really do make a huge difference on growth rate, helps to keep the average size similar so you aren't getting as many runty fry too.

As for the reason you had so few survive I'd guess it was food related, look into getting a paramecium culture going. They are fantastic for first foods, far better than micro worms as paramecium will not die and foul the water and they are much smaller and easier for fry to eat. Vinegar eels are also much better than micro worms in terms of size, plus they will actually swim near the surface and not sink like micro worms. I find most betta fry are able to eat BBS after 10-14 days but you still want to offer the smaller live foods for the smaller fry.
 
PNWBettas
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Nice to see someone else taking an interest in breeding bettas. You have some nice pairs going!

Just a tip for preventing pelvic fin issues, make sure you clean the bottom of the glass in the fry tank every couple days. The ammonia from left over food that ends up rotting on the glass is what burns off their little pelvic fins as they are developing. Alternatively, you could add a layer of sand or leaf litter which may help. Don't be afraid to do lots of water changes after about 10 days free swimming. I did some experimenting when breeding bettas and water changes really do make a huge difference on growth rate, helps to keep the average size similar so you aren't getting as many runty fry too.

As for the reason you had so few survive I'd guess it was food related, look into getting a paramecium culture going. They are fantastic for first foods, far better than micro worms as paramecium will not die and foul the water and they are much smaller and easier for fry to eat. Vinegar eels are also much better than micro worms in terms of size, plus they will actually swim near the surface and not sink like micro worms. I find most betta fry are able to eat BBS after 10-14 days but you still want to offer the smaller live foods for the smaller fry.
Thank you for the tips! Vinegar eels was one of the ones I was sure I needed to add to the collection, and I will look into paramecium as well. I'm probably just going to ditch the microworms totally and do more water changes this time around to hopefully clear up those issues. I normally use airline tubing to clean the bottom of the tank so I will keep doing that to remove debris.
 
jake37
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Turkey blaster are great for cleaning the bottom...

Thank you for the tips! Vinegar eels was one of the ones I was sure I needed to add to the collection, and I will look into paramecium as well. I'm probably just going to ditch the microworms totally and do more water changes this time around to hopefully clear up those issues. I normally use airline tubing to clean the bottom of the tank so I will keep doing that to remove debris.
 
PNWBettas
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Turkey blaster are great for cleaning the bottom...
that works too, its what I use to clean my baby betta jars. I'm just fond of my mini syphon maybe. I also use the airline tubing to replace the water back into the spawn tank. I place the bucket higher and syphon it back in, but with a valve to drip it back into the tank.
 
PNWBettas
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I haven't sexed them all yet but I'm sure I do. And if I don't have what your looking for (limited selection clearly haha) I have a friend who has a massive spawn. And we got the parents from the same breeder around the same time so we suspect they were related. She has over 170 beautiful little yellow fancy babies and they are a bit older then mine and are showing more color. She isn't shipping them yet (due to cold them them still being a bit young) but she will be in 1-2 months.

Her website is: Home | Bettaful Aquatics
. This first patch is probably best as pets, even though I don't suspect its genetic.
 
PNWBettas
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Sorry these are kinda iffy, but this is a much larger spawn. Hoping I can prevent the die off this time.
 

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Lucy
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Just a quick reminder for everyone.
This thread is basically a breeding journal

Any discussion of transactions belong in the b/s/t forum or through the pm system between members with at least 50 posts..

Thank you
 
Luckyscale2003
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sorry lucy i didnt know im new
 
PNWBettas
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  • #39
Sorry it’s been quite a while! If you ever want an update or have a question, just ask. I get emails from FishLore but forget to post myself haha. My red fancy copper spawn is doing great. Only found about 5 dead fry and we are coming up on 2 weeks. I see at least 50 but I would bet closer to 100 babies. Seems to be much more of a success my second time around!

I’m also getting prepped to sell the yellow fancy’s. I will let y’all know when they are available, I will be listing them on my website (which I’m still trying to finish setting up haha). I suspect it will still be another month or so due to the cold but I’m getting there.
 

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PNWBettas
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Idk if the photos due it justice. Here’s the two week old fry from the red copper spawn. Definitely over 50 babies! Maybe more but I lose count after that.
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