Betta Breeding Isn't Going Right

Hello everyone I am new here. I need some help with my bettas! Recently I have gotten into the hoppy of breeding them. I have a male rose gold trimmed veiltail, and a white/blue female. I have conditioned the female for two weeks with bloodworms, and the male with blood worms. For the two weeks they have been in a 10 gallon tank with a plexiglass divider. But my male wol

Sry cut me off. My male won't make a bubble nest!HELP.....

 

You need to wait until the male makes the bubble nest before you put them together.

 

I have waited 3-4 weeks!!!

It's supposed to take them 1 night.☹️

 

Any picture? He could be too young? Or stressed?

 

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If betas aren't making bubble nests, then something is wrong.

 

What is the problem??....

 

What are your water parameters? What is the tempature?

 

To be honest most breeders on here - if the fish aren't showing indications of breeding (like a bubble nest) will separate the fish where they cannot see/smell each other, recondition and try again. It should take no longer than a week to have a bubble nest and a spawn.
You can try releasing the female to see if he will build a nest, but you need to be there to keep an eye on them because either one can kill the other rather quickly and mustn't be left alone without some supervision.

 

The temp is :80f. And I don't have a test kit I will be getting one soon though. The water is clear and I put:salt, stress coat, and tap conditioner in the water.





Ok my male is VERY interested in my female and my female is SUPER interested in my male. I have restarted already the "love" level has risen.

Need some tips!

 

I would condition them with more food options, maybe try some brine shrimp or live foods?

 

Ok I will try to switch it up. I am really young so I don't have to much money to spend

 

The male you have is indicating your water / tank vegetation is not suitable for breeding.

Check around on the net for betta breeding and how they have tanks set up.

#bethefish

 

Use frozen/thawed brine shrimp, they're the best other than live foods. Separate the bettas for a another week and feed them well.

I'd add some catapa leaves to the tank as well, of not catapa then grab some dried oak leaves, clean them off and pop them in the tank. Tannin (the tea coloration that comes from organic plant matter) is good for bettas and often triggers them to spawn. My betta boy built his nests under the leaves before they could sink that that's where his 2 hoards of babies stayed until they were free swimming. Another thing, leaves will grow infusoria and biofilm, which is most often the first food baby bettas feed off of in the wild. A constant food source for fry to feed off of goes a long way towards survival rates.

 

Oak leaves can be toxic to fish! It's definitely toxic to carp.

 

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Oh ok I will separate them and feed them better! I have a divider I can use. Also I have watched EVERY video on YouTube about breeding bettas!

 

Oak leaves can be toxic to fish! It's definitely toxic to carp.

I've been using oak leaves for 3+ years and have had zero issues with them. I use them in all my betta, fry and shrimp tanks with no problems. Sure if you have a ton of oak leaves you will cause your water become very acidic but that would take a lot of leaves and no water changes. Perhaps if you add green leaves there would be problems but not with dried leaves collected in the fall. Loads of people will use fallen leaves they collect, I even use alder cones I collect from across my road. So long as there are no chemicals being used on the trees I see no problem. If oak leaves were toxic then heaven forbid if they should enter the bodies of water in Michigan, all the fish and critters would be dead by now

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The difference is lake Michigan has a billion gallons of water to dilute it. But if your sure dried leaves are safe and you've used them that's fine. Google toxic plants - I just always avoid these on the lists.

And you are likely right. I bet dried leaf is a total difference unless the leaf contains oils which never dry out.

But would I use them without a scientific test study, no.

 

What do you plan on doing with the babies?? Do you have a bunch of containers and grow out tanks??

 

Ok thank you guys sooooo much!! I just separated my male and female I will feed them lotsnof bloodworms!! I have one more question for you all. Yesterday I got another betta. He isn't a male twintail. His name is coffee. I saw him in the back of the shelf, he had been there for over 2 months. He was shivering violently! And he had BAD fin rot☹️ I decided to recscue him. Do any of you have any treatments for the illnesses he has? And do you know what is wrong with him? I will post a video.

 

Probably neglect. I'd start with just doing some water changes. Just don't mix him with your others till your sure you have it under control.

 

I know the container is small but he is being treated so I will upgrade it when he is healed

 

where did you get the bettas? if they're just pet store bettas then you probably aren't going to have much luck breeding them. you want a good quality breeding line.

 

About the baby's yes I am going to keep them is small jars. I have a friend who will sell them at her school for me and I am going to sell them at school. I am also going to get a 20 gallon tank for the females.

They are listed "rare" from the store. And there's are a TON of people who want themAlso I don't want to waste money on expensive betta until I have the breeding down.

 

On top of all the information in this topic, I would like to add that you probably should invest in an API Freshwater Liquid Test Kit. If the tank isn't cycled and they aren't comfortable in their own living conditions they may not breed either.

 

Ok I will look into it thanks!!!!

 

I would watch keeping them in the same tank. The female could get egg bound if she smells the male, so its best to have separate tanks for them until you breed them

 

OhAll my tanks are full! I could ask my mom to take me out to get a new one? There is a sale at pets mart.

 

Hey everyone I have GREAT news!!! I put the divider in my tank and feeded them blood worms! And guess what!! My male has started a TinI bubble nest!!! I am soooooo excited!! Here is a pic. I know it's small but it's a start!! Oh and news on coffee, my sick veiltail. I gave him his second salt bath and did a 95% water change. He has started to eat and is now looking a TON better!!

 

OhAll my tanks are full! I could ask my mom to take me out to get a new one? There is a sale at pets mart.

I would ask. ALso congrats on the bubble nest. Glad coffee is doing good too.

 

Thanks sooooooo much everyone one!!! I am so glad for some supporters! Any further tips would be awesome. I will keep everyone updated on how everybody (my fish) are doing.
Again thank you.

 

There is a forum for betta include hot links at the top for betta breeding and the care that goes into it - the breeding process is the easy part, raising them is the hardest part.
The freshwater fish forum, then the betta forum, and at the top there are several topics just for breeding information and the hardships that can get into it.

 

/1Ok great I will definitely read that!

 

About the baby's yes I am going to keep them is small jars. I have a friend who will sell them at her school for me and I am going to sell them at school. I am also going to get a 20 gallon tank for the females.

Make sure you inform the buyers on how to care for bettas. Don't sell the fish if it isn't going into the right conditions (5 gallons, heated, filtered) I've seen too much betta neglect and abuse.

 

Don't worry I will be SUPER glad and careful!

 

Check to see if you can sell bettas at your school first you may not be able to bring in live fish. And also your breeding tank doesn't look that good you need to have a LOT more plants so the female can run away from the male if he gets too aggressive. Also where is the sponge filter? Do you have any live food? Microworms? Daphina? How many years have you been keeping fish?

 

I really don’t want to be negative but I feel like I should say something. how long have you been in the hobby? I noticed you commented on my post and told me to add a female into my 2.5 gallon tank with my male, which is like the first rule of bettas, they can't be housed together. (only works in certain circumstances) I also would just like to mention out of concern that salt baths are stressful and you shouldn’t put a freshwater fish in salt unless its actually needed. (fin rot will heal with clean water, especially your guy’s because its so mild) its not the best idea to do this if you don't have much experience or time.. its a lot of work.. you won't be able to sell them as soon as they hatch, you’ll have to take care of all of them because they need special care. if you just hand unexperienced people from school fry they will most likely kill them. you said you’re really young and obviously still in school, once they start to show aggression are you going to have time to water change 50 or more jars every other day?.. what if you’re not able to sell them all, ive heard of them popping out 1,000 eggs, can you care for them? many people are misinformed so I am concerned most of the kids at school aren’t going to give them the proper care. if they really were interested in fish keeping wanted to care for a fish they’d go to the store and get one. I don't see a filter in your tank, i’m assuming its not cycled?.. the fry have to have good water quality. your tank is also not a good for breeding, there will be aggression, there has to be hiding places or blocks in sight or one of them might be injured or killed.

 

I really don’t want to be negative but I feel like I should say something. how long have you been in the hobby? I noticed you commented on my post and told me to add a female into my 2.5 gallon tank with my male, which is like the first rule of bettas, they can't be housed together. (only works in certain circumstances) I also would just like to mention out of concern that salt baths are stressful and you shouldn’t put a freshwater fish in salt unless its actually needed. (fin rot will heal with clean water, especially your guy’s because its so mild) its not the best idea to do this if you don't have much experience or time.. its a lot of work.. you won't be able to sell them as soon as they hatch, you’ll have to take care of all of them because they need special care. if you just hand unexperienced people from school fry they will most likely kill them. you said you’re really young and obviously still in school, once they start to show aggression are you going to have time to water change 50 or more jars every other day?.. what if you’re not able to sell them all, ive heard of them popping out 1,000 eggs, can you care for them? many people are misinformed so I am concerned most of the kids at school aren’t going to give them the proper care. if they really were interested in fish keeping wanted to care for a fish they’d go to the store and get one. I don't see a filter in your tank, i’m assuming its not cycled?.. the fry have to have good water quality. your tank is also not a good for breeding, there will be aggression, there has to be hiding places or blocks in sight or one of them might be injured or killed.

I second that.
Although, sadly, this kid isn't going to listen. I've seen countless comments like this on her other posts and she always ignores them or says (and I quote) "your making me misirible"
Kiera, whilst I couldn't be happier that you're getting into the "hoppy" I really think you should wait until you're more experienced with fish keeping. On another one of your posts, you claimed that you knew about the nitrogen cycle, yet you have no filter, therefore no way to cycle your tank. Listen, no amount of research will prepare you for breeding bettas. You need experience firsthand with fish keeping. And starting straight off with betta breeding isn't just throwing yourself in the deep end, it's throwing yourself into the middle of the ocean.
Whilst you won't listen, please consider just caring for Coffee (great job with rescuing the little guy!) and giving your betta's the best chance possible for the time being. And don't sell the fry at school. That's betta abuse if ever I've seen it.

 

I really don’t want to be negative but I feel like I should say something. how long have you been in the hobby? I noticed you commented on my post and told me to add a female into my 2.5 gallon tank with my male, which is like the first rule of bettas, they can't be housed together. (only works in certain circumstances) I also would just like to mention out of concern that salt baths are stressful and you shouldn’t put a freshwater fish in salt unless its actually needed. (fin rot will heal with clean water, especially your guy’s because its so mild) its not the best idea to do this if you don't have much experience or time.. its a lot of work.. you won't be able to sell them as soon as they hatch, you’ll have to take care of all of them because they need special care. if you just hand unexperienced people from school fry they will most likely kill them. you said you’re really young and obviously still in school, once they start to show aggression are you going to have time to water change 50 or more jars every other day?.. what if you’re not able to sell them all, ive heard of them popping out 1,000 eggs, can you care for them? many people are misinformed so I am concerned most of the kids at school aren’t going to give them the proper care. if they really were interested in fish keeping wanted to care for a fish they’d go to the store and get one. I don't see a filter in your tank, i’m assuming its not cycled?.. the fry have to have good water quality. your tank is also not a good for breeding, there will be aggression, there has to be hiding places or blocks in sight or one of them might be injured or killed.

This.

 

I understand what are saying and agree!! I have been in thebhobby 4 years, and yes I have premiston to sell the fish at school.

I am going to the store today to get some supplies for breeding any suggestions?