Betta and Gourami

EmpPleco
  • #1
ONe of my gouramis is starting to get harassed by my other gourami in my 20 gallon and it's causing him not to eat. I am not sure why this is happening now, but it's scary

Do you think if I moved him to my 10 gallon with my Betta, the situation will be worse or better? SHould I give it A try?

Please HelP!
 

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Marc
  • #2
You could put the Gourami in and see if it will attack the Betta - I'm not sure if it would or not.
 

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EmpPleco
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
The gourami is starting to seem so weak because of not eating, and I have been contemplating this, but I think it may be that the gourami will be attacked by the betta
 
Jon
  • #4
ouch what a predicament... you might want to try it or put a divider in your tank to split the gouramis... my gourami isn't a very aggressive eater and I don't think its in there blood to be... mine just waits for flakes to float down past him and then eats them... the guppies get the first food, then it floats down and my gourami gets a bit and then it hits the bottom and my julis eat it up
 
EmpPleco
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Yes I tried to put him in there with the Betta, but then the betta got irritated So he gets bullied in both situations.

I put him back in the 20 gallon because the betta looked like he was going to kill the gourami, flaring his gills and curling his body. So I think tomorrow I am going to try to put the Bully Gourami in a breeding net for a couple days and see if that tones him down -- it gives the battered gourami a few days of not having to worry about the bully and to get some food. (speaking of which, my gouramis (or the bully, the victI'm used to be, but not anymore) are quite the opposite of yours, JON, they eat right along at the top with my danios and my glass cats are the ones who wait for the food to come down)

If the breeding net doesn't work, than I will try to trade him in for a couple female gouramis. Or maybe a few more glass cats or danios Although I don't want to do that :-[ :'( :-\
 
atmmachine816
  • #6
yes a gourami and a betta will fight as they are both gouramis if you didnt know that they both are bubblenest builders and labryinth users and gouramis are territorial to each other especially if they are dwarf gouramis since almost all gouramis get aggresive and are not good community fish as they get older but what type of gourami do you have since I can help you more since I like gouramis and know a bit about them but don't put him in with the betta again PLEASE and put more hiding places in if possible
 

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EmpPleco
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
They are both dwarf gouramis. I knew that they were both labyrinth fishes, but I just wanted to see which situation would fend better since I was in quite a pickle. lol.

My bullied gourami has enough hiding spaces and he is starting to eat again I am still going to try the breeding net thing with my bully gourami because he still chases the other gourami every once in a while
 
atmmachine816
  • #8
dont get a breeding net get a breeding box as sometimes they can be bigger and they are a LOT easier to clean I used a net once and I threw it away it was so hard to clean
 
EmpPleco
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
I plan to get the biggest thing I can find I don't necessarily like the box - because isn't that just a plastic box? I like the fact the water can flow in through the net, that way he still feels like he's a part of the tank. I just want it to be like a minI punishment so that the other gourami can psych himself up and be able to wonder around the tank without having to worry about anything
 
atmmachine816
  • #10
no boxes are plastic which makes them easy to clean and they have slits on the sides and bottom so the water can still flow through but all the poop and junk gets stuck in the net and won't come out but its your opinion
 

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EmpPleco
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
Oh as long as they have holes.. I didn't think they had holes.. you are right that does sound a lot better
 
atmmachine816
  • #12
yup I didnt know about that either at first but once I did I got one
 
EmpPleco
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
thanks
 
Gunnie
  • #14
I think your gourami is always gonna be bullied by the other as long as they are both in the same tank. This has always been my experience with all my gouramis. I've kept the golden and opaline varieties, and I have read that the dwarf types are even more aggressive.
 

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0morrokh
  • #15
What I would do is get a tank divider to separate the bully. You can't keep a fish in a little box forever, and a bully is always going to be a bully.
 
bullhorsetook
  • #16
I have two Dwarf Gouramis for nearly a year and both seem to be getting along well. In fact they spend a lot of time beside one another. One difference between our situations is that I have them in a 55 gallon tank. I have considered adding two more but after reading some of the posts I am reconsidering. I love the Gold Gourmais but I have known them to be a bit aggressive. Looks like another Silver Dollar :
 
Esimm03
  • #17
HI I was just wondering if it is wise to keep a Betta with a gourami.
I have a tank with a gourami in and my Betta in my other tank died.
(I will get another Betta if I can keep them together)
Would I be able to keep them together?

I have a 25l tank


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Thanks
Ethan
 
Gersh
  • #18
Both Gourami and Betta are anabantoids (labyrinth fish). Typically its highly advised not to mix these types of fish. Both are known to be territorial, especially against bright, colorful fish (as they both are).
 

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Esimm03
  • #19
Both Gourami and Betta are anabantoids (labyrinth fish). Typically its highly advised not to mix these types of fish. Both are known to be territorial, especially against bright, colorful fish (as they both are).
Ok thank you for your advice

Sorry one more question,

Could I keep guppies with the gourami?
 
TexasDomer
  • #20
A 25 liter tank is too small for a dwarf gourami too.

Guppies are usually fine with gouramis in a suitable tank size. Don't add guppies to the gourami's current tank - it's already too small.
 
Esimm03
  • #21
A 25 liter tank is too small for a dwarf gourami too.

Guppies are usually fine with gouramis in a suitable tank size. Don't add guppies to the gourami's current tank - it's already too small.
Ok my local pet shop don't know what there talking about then because they said that it is fine to keep giuramis and Bettas together.
 
Gersh
  • #22
Sorry one more question,

Could I keep guppies with the gourami?

No problem! I love helping.

A lot of it comes down to the individual fish. I have little experience with gouramis, but if they're like bettas it's highly variable. Some can tolerate anything you put in there. Others will murder anything you put in there.

Best you can do is find a gourami that's already in a tank with some other fish.
 

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Esimm03
  • #23
No problem! I love helping.

A lot of it comes down to the individual fish. I have little experience with gouramis, but if they're like bettas it's highly variable. Some can tolerate anything you put in there. Others will murder anything you put in there.

Best you can do is find a gourami that's already in a tank with some other fish.
OK thank you
 
TexasDomer
  • #24
In general, dwarf gouramis are not as aggressive as bettas. DGs are often good community fish.
 
GraceEssa
  • #25
Yes definitely not betta and gourami but I have a gourami with 1 guppy and they get along great!
 
akcarroll12
  • #26
Pretty sure the answer is never, but any chance I could put a betta and powder blue dwarf gourami together in 29 gallon? Thanks!
 

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FishFor2018
  • #27
Your right, never lol
 
akcarroll12
  • #28
Your right, never lol

Ha ok would you do the betta or dwarf gourami in the 29 g community? The betta is recovering from fin rot in a 2.5 g. Should I wait til he’s completely healed or can I go ahead and add him? Thank you!
 
MrBryan723
  • #29
A female betta you could get away with. Male probably not. I have however housed male bettas with dwarf gouramis in a well planted 100 gallon with no ill effects. But also I had 6 female bettas in there as well as guppies and other community fish.
 
FishFor2018
  • #30
Ha ok would you do the betta or dwarf gourami in the 29 g community? The betta is recovering from fin rot in a 2.5 g. Should I wait til he’s completely healed or can I go ahead and add him? Thank you!
depends on personality of them. what fish are in the 29? if he is recovering and not in treatment then you could add the betta
 

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akcarroll12
  • #31
depends on personality of them. what fish are in the 29? if he is recovering and not in treatment then you could add the betta

Albino cories and neon tetras. Is this ok? He is not in treatment. I would put him back in his solitary 10 g but it shattered
 
akcarroll12
  • #32
6 Albino cories and 12 neon tetras. The tank has been established for a few months. Is this ok? He is not in treatment. I would put him back in his solitary 10 g but it shattered
 
FishFor2018
  • #33
Albino cories and neon tetras. Is this ok? He is not in treatment. I would put him back in his solitary 10 g but it shattered
he should do fine in the tank but watch the neon's sometimes they nip at fins (not common but not un-common)
Keep me updated!!
 
MrBryan723
  • #34
Bettas are very hardy fiah and he could adapt pretty well, bit they like the water a bit warmer than neons
 

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FishFor2018
  • #35
Bettas are very hardy fiah and he could adapt pretty well, bit they like the water a bit warmer than neons
What do you mean? neon's can be kept in 70-81
 
MrBryan723
  • #36
What do you mean? neon's can be kept in 70-81
Yes, but they prefer the mid 70s, while bettas prefer the lower 80s. There are certain things to take into consideration when combining fish from opposite sides of the planet. But like I said bettas are very adaptable fish. Just splitting the difference isn't great for either species even though both will deal with it usually without issue. Just a caution.
 
Cltguy
  • #37
They are both from the same suborder for species - the betta will be more aggressive - by a DG will do fine in a community tank
 

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