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I am planning two put 2 african dwarf frogs in my empty 5 gallon planted tank. In the future, I think a Betta could add some life to the tank. If I end up getting a Betta, when I feed the frogs frozen bloodworms will the Betta come down and eat the blood worms and act aggresive towards my frogs? Is there any way to prevent this?
 

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I used to have a tank with frogs and a betta together, and I used to feed them both live and freeze dried foods. I found that the best one was brine shrimp. But in general my frogs tended to eat more towards the bottom of the tank, or they would eat what was near them, my betta always liked to eat from the top of the tank, so they just stayed out of each other's way. I'm hoping to add a frog to my 5 gal with my current betta now, but he's still recovering from fin rot. Good luck if you decide to add a betta to your tank, I think they are a great addition!
 

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gmann21193 said:
I am planning two put 2 african dwarf frogs in my empty 5 gallon planted tank. In the future, I think a Betta could add some life to the tank. If I end up getting a Betta, when I feed the frogs frozen bloodworms will the Betta come down and eat the blood worms and act aggresive towards my frogs? Is there any way to prevent this?
I'm not sure, but I've watched the way those frogs move around and it could be a problem as far as the Betta feeling his territory is being invaded and could end up badly for the frogs (they could starve and or get attacked) and/or the betta - he could get constipation and die if he aggressively eats all the bloodworms. Hopefully someone with this combination or someone who's tried it can confirm or deny my guess at the compatibilty of the betta and frogs.

- looks like I'm wrong from reading this forum and a frog might do alright with your Betta.. you might ask poefox about it, and definitely see what Rose has to say on the matter.
 

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There is not much in the way of food that Bettas really like as much as bloodworms. I do not know of many that do not eat them and I have usually used them as a suggestion for food for any finicky betta who just will not eat any other food that the owner has tried even if the owner is not too enthusiastic to try them. I am so afraid that even though there is not probably a real problem with the frog living on the bottom and the betta being on the surface, once the betta determines that there are bloodworms to be had down there (and he WILL, believe me) there will be a war even if it is one-sided and the frog will either be injured or starved. If you could find some other food it may not even be safe. You see Bettas are individuals and we have had some owners who have had Otos or Cories who eat food totally different than Bettas and the betta will pick up the food wafer or pellet and run away with it just because he knows it is food and he won't eat it but he just WANTS it.

The clue is that EVERY betta is different so there is no hard and fast rule. I have Alexander who takes naps with his Otos and then there was Emma who killed every fish I put in with her. There is Marty Jr. and before him Marty who chased the other fish until they got the idea the best thing to do was run a bit and then ignore them. And now there is Nate and JT who share a tank with a Plexiglas Divider and don't even flare at each other or pay any attention to each other or anyone else in their half of the tank. Some are pretty cool characters and I could do anything with them and others are like little devils and my next one is going to be a DEMON literally (that will even be his name).

I am sure that you can try the frogs, I would NOT feed it bloodworms, I would have a secondary plan ready in case you need to remove one of them in an emergency. One person's opinion.

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now I'm getting second thoughts... I dont have the money to get another aquarium and a I saw and amazing white half moon at my LFS. two weeks later... the same betta is still there. it makes me want it more! I want it to be happy though. I would go out and buy a 2.5 gallon betta kit but i realy want the betta to be happy but I dont know if I should stick with the frogs or switch to bettas. Its a hard descision. And yet Sanchez the mystery snail is just DYING for a tankmate anyway... I really do wish bettas werent so selfish >
 

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a white half moon?! i'd definitely go for that, those are rare finds at the LFS. Bettas are a ton of fun and loaded with personality, they love to interact with you more than other fish.
 
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yes he was a bright white halfmoon with pink trim around his fins. He looked REALLY unique! never seen a betta like him before. I wish bettas could peacefully coexist with frogs. Does anyone know ANY way to determine personality through the little cups they are in at the fish store? :-\ I cannot pick between bettas or frogs!!!! :'(
 

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yes he was a bright white halfmoon with pink trim around his fins. He looked REALLY unique! never seen a betta like him before. I wish bettas could peacefully coexist with frogs. Does anyone know ANY way to determine personality through the little cups they are in at the fish store? :-\ I cannot pick between bettas or frogs!!!! :'(
Unfortunately, they don't get to let their personality out at the store. Perhaps the key would be to find out what the frogs could eat besides bloodworms.. maybe something like zucchini? Or put the Betta in the 5 gallon and a bunch of frogs in the 150 gallon when you get it.. you could only put 1 or 2 in the 5 gallon anyways and at the store they look more fun in a bigger group.
 
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yes but I might not be getting that tank for a few years :'( and I heard that frogs are harder to keep in a larger tank because it will be harder for them to find food. So here am I again at the same spot I started :-\
 

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Maybe you could get a smaller tank for the frogs and they'd not have to fight fish for their food and you could really get to see all their normal behavior? I have a bad case of MTS..
 

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I have a frog and snails in a 2.5 gal. Kritter keeper. There are also lots of live plants. My frog seems to be very happy and I feed him live blood worms and frog bites. Just an idea if you want a frog but don't have a lot of space for one.

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yea but i want to get multiple frogs and if you go by the inches to gallons rule, then i think frogs get to about 2.5 inches, so a five gallon would be suitable for 2-3 because they tend to not be much of a bioload because they are either at the bottom or floating at the top. Not entirely accurate but thats what i know... I think ill save the betta Idea for my 5 gallon Hex when my fish die because I dont think a betta will do well with 2 danios and 2 fan/bamboo shrimp. Wait a second.... If I move the danios to my other 10 gallon and take out the minnows in there ( feed them to my friend's oscar )....... hmmm...and idea is coming to me. I have a 3-4 inch crayfish in the 10 gallon, and I bought fathead minnows so he could catch them and eat them, but then i realized that he is too small to catch ANY fish. So maybe I could move my two zebra danios to his tank and then put the betta with my two bamboo shrimp in the Hex.... but will transporting the danios to a calm 5 gallon to a filter with a waterfall effect and a high bubble making airstone cause them much stress? And how hout transporting them from the tanks?

1. Can bettas coexist with bamboo shrimp (they pretty much dont move alot, just sit there and fan the water)
2. How do I transfer the fish from tank to tank.
3. what to do with the boring minnows in the ten gallon :-\
4. is this a good idea???
 

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You can always put the frog in the 10 with the minnows. I've had frogs in multiple tanks with many different types of fish, and they've always been fine. They will eat just about anything as well. I've seen mine eat everything from worms and brine shrimp to fish flakes and pellets.
And I did get another frog for my betta tank the other day, and so far they're doing just fine. Samson doesn't mind the frog at all, and they eat together fine. But it could be just his personality too. I'm finding that he's a very mellow betta compared to others!

As far as moving your fish from tank to tank, I always float mine when I transfer them. I put them in a baggie with the water from the tank they are in, let them adjust to temp, then slowly add in the new water to the bag over an hour or so, and they do just fine. Its better not to rush them.
 
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my crayfish would tear the frog to pieces. literally. I used to have 4 minnows and one got stuck under the rock of his cave. His idea of the situation was FREE DINNER. He ran over to it and showed his carnivorous side!! ;D it was a good show. although there wasnt much of a fight :-\ anyways.. ive decided to give up on the betta idea until my all my 5 gallon hex inhabitants have passed on. I think that group should live out their life together
 
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