Besides A Betta, Is There Any Fish That Greet Their Owner?

ap4lmtree
  • #1
My female yellow betta died a few days ago because of my fault.

It is difficult for me to deal with her death. I was thinking about getting another personable fish to fill the void and help alleviate the pain her death has left me. is there any other fish that would interact with me in a 20 gallon and be okay with my kuhlI loaches and amano shrimp other than another female betta?

what about dwarf gourami. do they interact with their owner?

thanks
 
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JesseMoreira06
  • #2
I would suggest

2-3 Honey Gouramis or 1 Dwarf Gourami
10 Harlequin Raboras
2 Bolivian Rams (mald/female)
8-10 KuhlI Loaches

Actually what are the dimensions of the tank?
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
I would suggest

2-3 Honey Gouramis or 1 Dwarf Gourami
10 Harlequin Raboras
2 Bolivian Rams (mald/female)
8-10 KuhlI Loaches

Actually what are the dimensions of the tank?

Hi. It is a 20 gallon high.

Do dwarf gouramis bolvian ram greet their owners and interact with them?

thanks
 
JesseMoreira06
  • #4
Hi. It is a 20 gallon high.

Do dwarf gouramis bolvian ram greet their owners and interact with them?

thanks

I don't keep any Dwarf Gouramis , I do keep honeys and they have good personalities.

Bolivians rams IMO have great personalities, they do interact and also very fun to watch.

I wouldn't keep Bolivians in a 20 gallon high tho

I would suggest

2-3 Honey Gouramis or 1 Dwarf Gourami
10 Neon Tetras
10 KuhlI Loaches
 
tommywantfishy
  • #5
20 long?

1) I would go with a school of neon tetras, or rummynose tetras (7-9).

2) A powder blue or the reddish typical dwarf gourami. (1 total)

3) 6-9 Cory Cats (Albino are my favorite. They are also incredibly hardy.

Add the DG Last for sure.

Hi. It is a 20 gallon high.

Do dwarf gouramis bolvian ram greet their owners and interact with them?

thanks

Dgs are pretty shy at first ime, however, they become very friendly once they realize you feed them ha. I would still go with a school of tetras or rasboras (porkchop maybe) and a school of coryordra Hasbrosus.....they are smaller cats.

I corrected with this post regarding a 20high.
Bolivian Ram needs 30 gallon from what I have read.
 
kuhlkid
  • #6
Just to reiterate for OP, there seems to be confusion--they've said the tank is a 20 gallon high.
 
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JesseMoreira06
  • #7
Bolivians are fine in a 20 gallon long , I wouldn't house them in a 20 gallon high tho.
 
tommywantfishy
  • #8
Mikrogeophagus altispinosus – Bolivian Ram (Crenicara altispinosa, Microgeophagus altispinosus, Papiliochromis altispinosus)

They need a 30" long tank. A 29 high would possibly work.

Understock when you can and do it right @op.

That is for 1 fish btw. Gbr's need a 30 gallon minimum too.
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
I am a little bit overstocked. I currently have 10 kuhlI loaches, 6 java loaches, and 11 amano shrimp.

I like my current fish, but I am looking to replace my dead female betta who would greet me and interact with me. My loaches mostly just care about their loach friends, and don't pay me any mind. I think any schooling or shoaling fish act the same way, right? They don't interact with the owner?

I am trying to decide between a female betta or a female dwarf gourami.


thanks


here is a pic of my tank:
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JesseMoreira06
  • #10
Websites are miss leading half the time , regarding temperature, size of tank and even sometimes size of fish.

I could show you websites that say a 20 gallon is okay for them , even tho I don't go based on websites.

Bolivians are fine with 30" of width IMO/IME.
 
tommywantfishy
  • #11
I am a little bit overstocked. I currently have 10 kuhlI loaches, 6 java loaches, and 11 amano shrimp.

I like my current fish, but I am looking to replace my dead betta who would greet me and interact with me. My loaches mostly just care about their loach friends, and don't pay me any mind. I think any schooling or shoaling fish act the same way, right? They don't interact with the owner?

I am trying to decide between a female betta or a female dwarf gourami.


thanks


here is a pic of my tank:View attachment 341971
Male dwarf gourami all day long. Mine would eat out of my hand. They like the top. They have a labyrinth organ like a betta. I lost 2 to iridovirus. Get online with a reputable breeder. Amazing fish.

Females are just silver. And hard to find.

Seriously Fish is legit. Look at live aquaria. Ha. They even say 30 gallon min.
 
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ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
I think I will get another female betta.

it still sucks so bad that my betta died. It was my fault. I don't think I would be so sad if it died of old age rather than something that didn't have to happen, my fault.

I wasn't gentle enough to net her while taking her to her epsom salt bath because she was constipated from me overfeeding her freeze dried brine shrimp. She fasted for a day and a half and probably had swim bladder disorder. When I netted her, I think I pressed the net against the glass and she was in between or else I don't know why she got bruised on one side. =(

she was supposed to die of old age and after 5 or 8 years instead of just less than 6 weeks I had her.

her was her bruised side vs her other side:

her other side:

earlier today, I was wishing she would come back to me instead of being dead. ;(
 
JesseMoreira06
  • #13
Seriously Fish is legit. Look at live aquaria. Ha. They even say 30 gallon min.

It doesn't matter , live Aquaria is terrible, it's own by PetCo.

I'm talking based on experience , not what a websites tells you, seriously fish states that Neon Tetras are good up to 82F... Neon Tetras need temps of 72F-74F...Theres also many more mistake on their.

but regardless this isn't the right place to debate about this , I guess we'll agree to disagree.
 
tommywantfishy
  • #14
I think I will get another female betta.

it still sucks so bad that my betta died. It was my fault. I don't think I would be so sad if it died of old age rather than something that didn't have to happen, my fault.

I wasn't gentle enough to net her while taking her to her epsom salt bath because she was constipated from me overfeeding her freeze dried brine shrimp. She fasted for a day and a half and probably had swim bladder disorder. When I netted her, I think I pressed the net against the glass and she was in between or else I don't know why she got bruised on one side. =(

she was supposed to die of old age and after 5 or 8 years instead of just less than 6 weeks I had her.
An exercise mirror really helps with constipation.
 
JesseMoreira06
  • #15
I think I will get another female betta.

it still sucks so bad that my betta died. It was my fault. I don't think I would be so sad if it died of old age rather than something that didn't have to happen, my fault.

I wasn't gentle enough to net her while taking her to her epsom salt bath because she was constipated from me overfeeding her freeze dried brine shrimp. She fasted for a day and a half and probably had swim bladder disorder. When I netted her, I think I pressed the net against the glass and she was in between or else I don't know why she got bruised on one side. =(

she was supposed to die of old age and after 5 or 8 years instead of just less than 6 weeks I had her.

That's unfortunate , I'm very sorry about the whole situation. we all make mistakes at times, it's a part of life. I also think you should get another Betta since you enjoyed your previous one alot.
 
tommywantfishy
  • #16
That's unfortunate , I'm very sorry about the whole situation. we all make mistakes at times, it's a part of life. I also think you should get another Betta since you enjoyed your previous one alot.


I mentioned live aquaria as a juxtaposition. I know they are owned by big box. I have had black neons for 2.5 years at 78f

I would say tank size is more important than temp.
 
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ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #17
Male dwarf gourami all day long. Mine would eat out of my hand. They like the top. They have a labyrinth organ like a betta. I lost 2 to iridovirus. Get online with a reputable breeder. Amazing fish.

Females are just silver. And hard to find.

Seriously Fish is legit. Look at live aquaria. Ha. They even say 30 gallon min.


Okay, I was thinking about a female betta, but you said your dwarf gourami would feed from your hand, huh. Would it also come to the glass and try to get your attention, like a betta would?

thanks


if I were to get a female dwarf gourami, I would buy it from here.

Here is a link to their female dwarf gourami.
 
r.john0901
  • #18
I think I will get another female betta.

it still sucks so bad that my betta died. It was my fault. I don't think I would be so sad if it died of old age rather than something that didn't have to happen, my fault.

I wasn't gentle enough to net her while taking her to her epsom salt bath because she was constipated from me overfeeding her freeze dried brine shrimp. She fasted for a day and a half and probably had swim bladder disorder. When I netted her, I think I pressed the net against the glass and she was in between or else I don't know why she got bruised on one side. =(

she was supposed to die of old age and after 5 or 8 years instead of just less than 6 weeks I had her.

her was her bruised side vs her other side:

her other side:

earlier today, I was wishing she would come back to me instead of being dead. ;(
I am so sorry for your loss, I not long ago went through a Neon Tetra Disease outbreak and lost 9 fish! Barbs, Tetras, Rasboras... But, just to let you know, the bruising was probably not your fault, if she died from the impact she wouldn't have bruised as once an animal is dead, including us humans, we can't bruise. But again, sorry for your loss, I hope it puts your mind to piece a bit!
 
tommywantfishy
  • #19
Okay, I was thinking about a female betta, but you said your dwarf gourami would feed from your hand, huh. Would it also come to the glass and try to get your attention, like a betta would?

thanks


if I were to get a female dwarf gourami, I would buy it from here.

Here is a link to their female dwarf gourami.
 
JesseMoreira06
  • #20
I mentioned live aquaria as a juxtaposition. I know they are owned by big box. I have had black neons for 2.5 years at 78f

I would say tank size is more important than temp.

As I've said it's not the right place to debate , but just to mention say what ? temp is extremely important, to high of temps can speed metabolism thus shortening dramatically the lifespan of the fish. The thing is I'm not talking about putting a Bolivian in a 5 gallon , I'm saying they can live happily long term in a 20 gallon long with no problems. Tank size is important when it's less then ideal like an Oscar in a 55 gallon but that's not what I said. A 20 gallon long is the minimum where it's ideal for a Bolivian ram, but like any fish the bigger the better obviously.
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #21
Well, I went to a local fish store, then petsmart, then petco,

and I found a female betta that I like. she is a blue female crowntail. my previous betta was a yellow halfmoon

my new betta is a lot smaller than my than my previous betta, so I don't think she is more than 6 weeks old.

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Sean Smith
  • #22
One of my favorite for personality besides Bettas is senagals and bichirs .. two families that are what you call your fresh water eels .. senegals are shy though and take a few months to fully get used to you . Harder to take care of though

Nvm you got another betta. She is pretty and full bodied . So she probably is in good health . And she is definitely not six weeks . Maybe six months . But until two months they don't even get full color and fin shape . Good luck
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #23
Nvm you got another betta. She is pretty and full bodied . So she probably is in good health . And she is definitely not six weeks . Maybe six months . But until two months they don't even get full color and fin shape . Good luck

my previous betta was sent to me when she was 3.5 months, and she was a lot bigger than the new betta I have.

so, I don't know how that could be that she would be older but a lot smaller.

my new betta is like a minI me compared to my previous betta

Here is a picture of my previous betta at 3.5 months. It has a lot longer body length


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Sean Smith
  • #24
Hmm then I need to know what they feed them . My bettas are not full bodied and full color till 2.5 months or so . Know how long she is ?
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #25
Hmm then I need to know what they feed them . My bettas are not full bodied and full color till 2.5 months or so . Know how long she is ?

it is difficult for me to show a size comparison between my old and new bettas, but this might help with scale of my new bettta

you really think it is 6 months old?


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I bought my first betta from a thailand breeder selling on aquabid
he shows his betta throphies in his listings

my new betta is about 1 inch. my old betta was about 1.5 - 2 inches
maybe my new betta is stunted ?


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old betta:


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RIP Goldie. I miss you.
 
Sean Smith
  • #26
No ,one inch is great for anywhere from 1.5 -2 months . Nvm .she just looks completely done in fin growth and stuff . After hearing how big she is . She sounds on track . Just wow
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #27
No ,one inch is great for anywhere from 1.5 -2 months . Nvm .she just looks completely done in fin growth and stuff . After hearing how big she is . She sounds on track . Just wow

yeah, petsmart and petco in los angeles had a few really small bettas like mine. although they weren't all this size.

the LFS had bigger ones than the ones at those two retail stores.

I think petsmart and petco sells these bettas quite fast, especially in los angeles.

I had a betta about 9 years ago that I bought from a suburban walmart, and it was full adult size like the other ones there.

so, it could be because los angeles is lots more busy and sells more so they get younger stock for some of them

I made stupid mistakes with my previous betta by overfeeding or feeding her until she didn't want to eat anymore frozen brine shrimp. so she got consipation eventually, and she wouldn't eat any other kinds of foods. in addition, I made a mistake of not being more genetle when netting her for a epsom salt bath in a temp tank

In a sense, my first betta had to deal with someone who didn't know how to raise fish or deal with them, and she couldn't make it through that trail and error.

for my new betta, I hope I learned from my mistakes with goldie, and my new betta dies of old age rather than my fault.
 
Sean Smith
  • #28
Bettas are a great learner cause they typically are more hardy and forgiving . But I think most of us here has had a betta and killed it before getting everything down and doing right . Could have just been stuck in a small bowl though and treated as a unimportant decoration . So your in the right place and now in a good set of knowledge of what to do next . So I wouldn't let it bring ya down
 
ap4lmtree
  • Thread Starter
  • #29
My new betta doesn't interact and give me attention like my old betta did. I am having an incredible time moving on and dealing with the loss of my betta. Maybe I need to buy a few more bettas until I find one that likes and interacts with me like my old one did? Maybe I should get a cat or something? I don't know what to do, it is painful. I miss my betta so much. =(
 
WTFish?
  • #30
I know there's some controversy about balloon mollies but I have 3 and they are very personable. Always come up to the glass to see what's up
...I absolutely love them. Also, I read about your loss yesterday. So sorry. RIP Goldie
 
LucyC
  • #31
She will probably warm up to you after a bit longer, my betta used to ignore me except when I had food but now, 1.5 years later, he likes to be petted and whenever he sees me he rushes up to the glass to be played with. I lost one in the beginning too, it got dropsy and died in the night. It's always so hard when a pet dies, SIP Goldie
 
Eedawnee
  • #32
My female yellow betta died a few days ago because of my fault.

It is difficult for me to deal with her death. I was thinking about getting another personable fish to fill the void and help alleviate the pain her death has left me. is there any other fish that would interact with me in a 20 gallon and be okay with my kuhlI loaches and amano shrimp other than another female betta?

what about dwarf gourami. do they interact with their owner?

thanks
Awe. Me too. My all time favorite fish. Smart (for a fish - did tricks and came when called) cute, curious, (deadly) adventurous ("Evil Kanevil") and very friendly. Horrible death by filter input. Still miss him but after some time and clipping the filter impeller to slow the flow, got another betta. I went w an entirely different type and coloring. On top of personality differences, fin shapes affect the way the fish move and what they like to do. It's been hard giving new guy an honest chance but yesterday, after two weeks w him, I realized I was indeed falling for him despite still being a betta.
 
jmaldo
  • #33
She will probably warm up to you after a bit longer, my betta used to ignore me except when I had food but now, 1.5 years later, he likes to be petted and whenever he sees me he rushes up to the glass to be played with. I lost one in the beginning too, it got dropsy and died in the night. It's always so hard when a pet dies, SIP Goldie
My betta can see me coming a few feet away. Most times he greets me, except after water changes. Then he pouts for a few hours and ignores me. I had a 3 spot Gourami that would always greet me. Would reach out with his tenticles when I put my finger on the glass. I miss him. Such a character.
 

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