Baby Betta Progress Log - Page 3

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Demeter

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Guanchy said:
this is great! how did I just see this thread!.
You tell me, I update this thread pretty often
 

Guanchy

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do you ship? I would totally love one of the females for my next breeding project.
 
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Demeter

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I'm working on my shipping game. Have yet to ship anything though.
 
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Tiny bettas have most of their fins now. The largest ones have their pelvic fins and are starting to get their juvenile markings. ~30-40 fry


Some of their shrimp friends
 
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More blurry fry pics.

I noticed that this one seems to have a rectal prolapse. Still eats so we’ll see if it corrects itself.
 
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Moved the fry to the tote that has several BN fry and cherry shrimp. They’re getting daily water changes and are eating the smallest bug bite granules along with daphnia and BBS.


I counted 32 but there are obvious size differences. I culled 3 of the tiniest ones with funky tails and body shapes.
 

Guanchy

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Demeter said:
Moved the fry to the tote that has several BN fry and cherry shrimp. They’re getting daily water changes and are eating the smallest bug bite granules along with daphnia and BBS.


I counted 32 but there are obvious size differences. I culled 3 of the tiniest ones with funky tails and body shapes.
Awesone!!! and they are already eating bug bites??? mine didnt start eating them until a month an a half! that's awesome
 
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They started eating them around 7 weeks of age, but only the larger ones eat them. There seem to be several tiny fry left and I'll probably go through another culling or two in the next couple months. I'm shooting for better quality juveniles this time around and will cull accordingly, may end up with less than 20 but that's okay. Curious to see how many will be long finned this time around, hopefully not too many.

Not seeing much color but I expect some blues and natural coloration out of most the non white fry.
 
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So far not much color. They all look like natural colored bettas except the white fry. There’s only a handful of them and the largest has a little kink at the end of it’s tail.


This one is being aggressive, must be a male. He’s the largest too.


I took 6 of the runts that look fine form wise and will be giving them some TLC in a breeder basket.

I’m working on batch #2 from the same male. The new female I bought will not be spawned, there is definitely something wrong with her eyes and she can’t see too well. So I’m trying out the free female, they seem interested and she has breeding stripes.
 

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It looks like everything is going good so far, they look great to me!
 
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Took all day yesterday for the 2 to spawn and there are probably a couple hundred eggs. She is so slI'm now but won’t hold still for a photo, plus she’s back in the sorority.

Fat belly before laying eggs.
 
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Some how or other the last spawning attempt was a bust. Dad did a good job until they hatched but I think he stopped picking them back up and tending the nest after a day after hatching. I saw lots of cherry shrimp with suspiciously white stomachs...

Fry are growing but growing slow. Looks like 3 are starting to marble. They a little stressed because I had to catch them for pictures, the down side of using a tote as a growout.

Also some new pics of their grandma and aunts.


Grandma is the bottom white one, she’s got a scaly thing going on.
 

Platylover

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Its so cool to see the grandparent! Particularly that you can see where some of the fry get genes from her.

Does she have a tumour? Dalisay has a tumour on his head that looks similar to that.

I love the white fry in the first few photos! I’m curious, are you going to be selling these guys on here too? How did shipping go for you?
 
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Platylover said:
Its so cool to see the grandparent! Particularly that you can see where some of the fry get genes from her.

Does she have a tumour? Dalisay has a tumour on his head that looks similar to that.

I love the white fry in the first few photos! I’m curious, are you going to be selling these guys on here too? How did shipping go for you?

Grandma probably has some sort of tumor, it’s been slow growing and doesn’t seem to bother her. It apparated shortly after I spawned her, so about 9 or so months ago.

I do plan on offering these babies on here but from the last batch I shipped exactly one betta and it seems to of gone smoothly according to Sean Garland. Most the other went to VIPets but I still have 6 males I’m trying to sell.
 

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Demeter said:
Grandma probably has some sort of tumor, it’s been slow growing and doesn’t seem to bother her. It apparated shortly after I spawned her, so about 9 or so months ago.

I do plan on offering these babies on here but from the last batch I shipped exactly one betta and it seems to of gone smoothly according to Sean Garland. Most the other went to VIPets but I still have 6 males I’m trying to sell.
Yup, the betta and the Albino BN pleco are both happy and healthy.

Well, the betta will be... currently in a breeder box. I almost have the carpet grown for his new tank...
 

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Demeter said:
Grandma probably has some sort of tumor, it’s been slow growing and doesn’t seem to bother her. It apparated shortly after I spawned her, so about 9 or so months ago.

I do plan on offering these babies on here but from the last batch I shipped exactly one betta and it seems to of gone smoothly according to Sean Garland. Most the other went to VIPets but I still have 6 males I’m trying to sell.
I hope it keeps not affecting her. Dalisay’s appeared probably around that time as well and thankfully it doesn’t effect him either.

I’m glad it went well! Shipping can be an experience the first few times, so it’s great it went well for you. I’ll have to keep an eye out for when you start offering them because I really like that white one (if you offer him/her for sale)...
 

Guanchy

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that's a group of chunky ladies! they almost look like platys lol its great to see all the generations!
 

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Guanchy said:
that's a group of chunky ladies! they almost look like platys lol its great to see all the generations!
Hey, they’ve had kids. They’re allowed to get chunky.
 

Guanchy

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Platylover said:
Hey, they’ve had kids. They’re allowed to get chunky.
true! some are grandmas too, grandmas' hugs are always better when they are chunkier lol
 

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Guanchy said:
true! some are grandmas too, grandmas' hugs are always better when they are chunkier lol
You speak the truth good sir! Lol
 
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Demeter

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Platylover said:
I love the white fry in the first few photos!
Platylover said:
I’ll have to keep an eye out for when you start offering them because I really like that white one (if you offer him/her for sale)...
The largest white one is more than likely going to be sold/given away as it is the only fry that has a kink in its tail! All the white ones so far have turned out looking fantastic. I wish more were white but I’ll take what I got

Guanchy said:
that's a group of chunky ladies! they almost look like platys lol its great to see all the generations!
I swear they don’t look that tubby in person, don’t you known the camera adds a few pounds?
 
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A few of the marbled fry from above.

A couple of saddled cherry shrimp just because.
 
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Just moved the little ones to a 20gal tank yesterday, I can actually see them now! Group photo in the cup, lots of stress stripes. Note the ovaries in the right one.


2 males, the first one almost looks like it will have long fins


So far just one for sure female.

And this little thing that looks so cute.

 

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They are looking wonderful, all growing up fast!
 
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Demeter

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The marble gene is hitting the majority of the fry now, lots of dark fish are durning light and I’m seeing spots of iridescence on many of them


Male on the right is one mentioned in the last post, 5th pic down.
 

Bettaish

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Awesome! Will they be ready for sale soon?
 
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Demeter

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In another month I’ll be picking my top favorites then posting the others for sale! I could probably ship out these little guys but there’s no guarantee on gender or color yet
 
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I feel like they’re really growing fast now! The one female that turned dark to cello has turned dark again with nice colors. She’s in the middle here



I love this ones iridescence and scaling


 
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I’ve got a fresh batch of free swimming fry now! Dad is actually the grandpa of the ones above. Mom is a marbled female HMPK from ebay. I planned to breed her with a male I bought at the same time but he’s still too small for her, she’s huge.
Dad

Mom

Tiny fry on the crypt leaf

If anyone remembers the dad’s lineage you will know he has double tail and marble genes. He gets his look from his wild colored mom.

Doesn’t look like a huge batch this time around and I’m thinking of keeping dad with the fry for a while longer. He’s still in his divided section that’s about 1/3 the tank so if he goes nuts and tries eating fry they can get away safely.
 
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Starting to see some black on the fins of a few lighter juveniles. Everyone is still getting along so we’ll see how long the males stay peaceful. The big white female with blue fins is partially blind so can’t go in the sorority. She’s the baby sitter now


As for the other spawn, Dad is still with the fry and they’re growing well. Eating lots of BBS and even dad is eating some when he can. I did see something strange, a couple fry had a big white dot on them. One right near the gill and the other on the tail. They seemed to eat and behave normally though. I would guess there to be 20-30 fry.
 
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Mr. B is taking great care of his babies. Started doing frequent water changes and 3 larger daily feedings of BBS.


I’ve seen no new white spots on fry but I did notice one larger fry with a bent spine.

Moved the older juveniles to the newly improves 36gal bowfront. They’ve joined their grandma, mom and aunts in the sorority. So for so good, no wounds other than a split fin.
 

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Ha...my kids got me 2 betas one black orchid boy one elephant "girl", om not convinced and I woke up to this when they were cohabiting...which I immediately changed
"Girl"???

boy
 
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Minxxy said:
Ha...my kids got me 2 betas one black orchid boy one elephant "girl", om not convinced and I woke up to this when they were cohabiting...which I immediately changed
"Girl"???

boy
What do you mean by cohabiting? They should not be in the same tank w/o a divider. The dumbo does look female, she looks plump in the belly area, short pelvic fins and I do see vertical striping, also called breeding stripes for females. Halfmoon dumbo females can have really long fins, my female dumbo has them too.
 
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Lots of pictures! Most are the size of young females you would find in stores.

This is one of the aunts.


Still no major male development, which seems strange at that point. The only male I am certain of is this dude. I believe the blurry one above it is also male but not 100%

A couple interesting ones


Found a couple more little ones marbling out.



This female is very photogenic and not spastic like the others.

There is one cellophane with iridescent and black spots. Looks very nice but never comes within photo range/angle.

The cellophanes are too bright and tend to blow out the camera.

This little guy is so shiny it also blows out the camera. It’s also pictures above.
 
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Next week I plan on putting some of my little ones up for sale. Still working out their genders but I more or less know who I plan to keep.

Now that the youngest spawn is a bit over 1 month old I’m working on getting them to eat micro pellets. Some of the larger ones have taken nibbles so it’s getting there. High protein content will hopefully do then good.


Dad is still with his kids. I’m honestly amazed he’s still being good. I adore this betta’s personality.

Got a good pic of the crooked one and some others are finally showing juvenile stripes.
 
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It’s been a while and plenty has happened. Went on vacation for a week and came back to sick baby bettas. I believe they had velvet so I treated them and surprisingly they recovered. Nearly all were effected, some died and some were culled as they were having severe issues. I’ll be culling more strictly on form from now on. Here are some of them, I have special interest in the white one. Some are showing good ray branching in their tails too. Also note the big adult is not part of the spawn.


Of course there are lots of blues, some of which marbled already.

I started a new spawn with the male I bought this spring. His first batch failed but now he is the proud father of a little spawn from this female.

Here’s dad, he is a marble as is the female but he’s a HMPK whereas mom is just a PK. Hoping to get more impressive fins by pairing from the two spawns.
 

Guanchy

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Awesome! Love reading updates! Is Dad still in there with them?
 
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Guanchy said:
Awesome! Love reading updates! Is Dad still in there with them?
He is indeed, the fry are about 2 weeks old now and eating BBS. Dad is on one side of a divider though. Fry can swim through the holes to get away from him if he goes cannibal.
 
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I found out this one is a male after thinking it was female for the longest time. He was moved to a split 10gal and blew a nice bubble nest. I love his color and while his fins are rather small his body shape is decent. I need to get better pics soon.


So I did a thing and ended up buying
this new female off ebay for him! She’s got nice big fins and a great top line. Colors seems to match his well too. Hopefully she’ll be here by the end of next week. In the mean time I’ll be moving things around for her arrival.
 

Guanchy

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Wow beautiful female! Is she from the same seller u recommended me?
 
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Guanchy said:
Wow beautiful female! Is she from the same seller u recommended me?
This one was from a different seller I've never bought from called texas-tom-plakat. They've got some nice and healthy looking fish and their reviews are high. I just put in the order today but haven't heard back from them yet.
 

Guanchy

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Ok once you receive her come back and update a brother lol
 
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Fastest shipment ever, she went out monday and here she is tuesday, today! I wasn’t quite ready as I was expecting her wed-thurs so she gets to chill in a big breeder box.

She’s thin and has more black than in the original listing picture but that’s to be expected in a marble. Terrible lighting but that’s because I don’t wanna stress her.

Here’s a pic of her pair, natural lighting (from the window) brings out his color nicely
 
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So the last spawn with the teal male and one of my own females had an incident. The male jumped the divider and ate many of the fry on the “safe” side. After putting him back on the other side while and getting his other tank ready, he jumped out a tiny slit in the cover. I found him in time and he survived but the damage from it led to infection despite some TLC, no more teal boy. So I have 4 tiny fry left from him and they are growing very slowly.

On the flip side, my new female is getting on well with her pair. They’ve been flirting across a secure divider and I’ve introduced them for a bit today.



She’s a slI'm little thing but her belly is plump and the egg spot is protruding more than usual. He just needs a little encouragement to make a nest, hence the introduction.
 
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Also an update on the older babies, they’re juveniles now and the males are getting aggressive. My favorite is still the white one that has now started getting a dark tail and yellow tint, love the scaling and expect great things as it matures, leaning towards male.

Also think the cellophane is a male. It’s looking interesting with the spots of color. The first spot of color was red on the lips
 
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I tried my hardest to get the new female to spawn with my male but she just wouldn’t cooperate. She was dropping eggs but wouldn’t respond well to him. As funny as it sounds, there was no wiggle dance, no chemistry if you will.

So I decided on the spur of the moment to try one of my own females, the young white and blue marbled girl. This is her today after spawning.

Sparks flew and now there are lots of eggs. The male may end up failing if he doesn’t keep blowing bubbles.

If he fails then I’ll give him a break before trying the new girl again. I really want to get new genes in the line.
 
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Lots of babies, he’s been a good dad so far.
 
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The fry are free swimming as of last night but I’ve just noticed something interesting. The dad still ties to collect them but he’s doing it in a way I’ve never seen. While at the surface he holds still but quivers his body and fins. The fry seem to go towards the source of the vibrations and he collects several at a time this way. Of course get stops whenever I stick the device up to take a video. I’ll ask google about it.
 
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The two survivors from the teal HMPK and one of my own females. Both have marbled, the male used to be natural colored (blue and red) so he looks completely different.
Male:

Female:


The latest spawn didn’t do well for some reason. Not sure what happened but I have 1 fry left after doing a thorough search. We’ll see if it survives.
 

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