Are my White Cloud Mountain minnows sick??

Ellielouisemills
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So, today I bought 3 White Cloud Mountain minnows to add to my 24 litre tank already with 4 platys in. First of all, all three seemed happy but a few hours later one of them get red gills and a bloated abdomen. She/he is all at the top of the tank not really moving. Please reply asap if you have any clue with what’s happening
Thankyou!!
 
jkkgron2
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Ellielouisemills said:
So, today I bought 3 White Cloud Mountain minnows to add to my 24 litre tank already with 4 platys in. First of all, all three seemed happy but a few hours later one of them get red gills and a bloated abdomen. She/he is all at the top of the tank not really moving. Please reply asap if you have any clue with what’s happening
Thankyou!!
Could you post some pics? Does it seem to not be able to maintain “floatiness” a.k.a. Does it keep sinking to the bottom or floating in top?? If so my guess is swim bladder disease but pics hopefully will confirm what’s happening
 
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Ellielouisemills
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He is swimming but not as fast as the other two, his gills are very red and his stomachs bloated
 
Crispii
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What is your parameters? Having that amount of fish in that small of tank could cause water quality issue.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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What’s a parameter?

do the pics explain anything?

Need help asap
Please reply
 
jkkgron2
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Ellielouisemills said:
What’s a parameter?
Look up Ammonia, Nitrates, and nitrites....basically if u have too much ammonia (above .5 ppm) then u could have sick fish, same with nitrite and you want around 5-10 (maybe a bit more, not sure) nitrates in ur tank
 
jkkgron2
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Ellielouisemills said:
Need help asap
Please reply
We really do need parameters to tell what’s going on...do u have a local Petco near you??
EDIT: I prob need to explain more....Petco does free water testing, now its not the best but it should give us a general idea of the parameters
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Even if that was the case, the other two minnows are fine and so are the 4 platys
 
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Ellielouisemills
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No, one, I’m in the UK so it’s night and two I’m not sure what pet Co is

My other fish are fine exept this one though- also might it spread?
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
No, one, I’m in the UK so it’s night and two I’m not sure what pet Co is
For starters, just do around 50% water changes. I highly recommend upgrading the tank or consider your stocking options. A 24 liter tank has very little option of what fish or number of fish you can comfortably house in.
 
jinjerJOSH22
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Ellielouisemills said:
No, one, I’m in the UK so it’s night and two I’m not sure what pet Co is
Pet shops like Maidhead Aquatics and Pets at Home should be able to do it.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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I have 4 platys and 3 minnows, is that bad for a 24 litre as the pet store said it was fine
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
I have 4 platys and 3 minnows, is that bad for a 24 litre as the pet store said it was fine
It's too small of a tank.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Yes I live near a pets at home

What will happen? Will they all die as it’s too crowded??
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
What will happen? Will they all die as it’s too crowded??
Water quality issues. You're going to have a spike in ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate.
 
jinjerJOSH22
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Ellielouisemills said:
Yes I live near a pets at home
Obviously it's too late or early right now but later phone up and enquire whether they can test your aquarium water.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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I’m really scared now

Yes because it’s like 4 in the morning
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
I’m really scared now
Just do a 50% water change to alleviate any ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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When do I do that ... and we can’t be certain that there’s anemia hidden in the water
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
When do I do that ... and we can’t be certain that there’s anemia hidden in the water
Do it now! Fish often sick due to poor water quality.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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I can’t it’s 4 am where I live
I would wake my family up
 
jinjerJOSH22
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Ellielouisemills said:
Yes because it’s like 4 in the morning
I know, i'm in the UK too
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Shall I send a picture for a update of her?
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
I can’t it’s 4 am where I live
I would wake my family up
Honestly, I would worry more about the fish instead of your family. Fish are animals and it is your responsibility to care for them.
 
jinjerJOSH22
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I'm sure they'll understand
 
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Ellielouisemills
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I know but I can’t

All the fish cleaning stuff is packed away anyway
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
All the fish cleaning stuff is packed away anyway
Don't you have a bucket or cup that you can use?
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Update: still with red gills and bloated abdomen, moving but not much

Update: still with red gills and bloated abdomen, moving but not much

Does she look ok?
 
Crispii
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Honestly, if you're not going to listen to the advise that we give nor are you going to proceed in doing a water change, then I cannot help you. Sorry if I am being rude or mean, but I feel like it's a waste of my time trying to help someone who don't want to take advise. I hope for the best of luck for you and your fish.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Thanks, and I am listening, it’s just very early no even four am

But form your opinion what do you thjink from looking a the fish is wrong with her
 
Crispii
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Ellielouisemills said:
Thanks, and I am listening, it’s just very early no even four am
Who cares if it's 4 AM, it is your responsibility to care for your animals.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Ok, but what do you thinks wrong with the fish from looking at it
 
jinjerJOSH22
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It's hard to tell but the only thing you can do is a water change.
Also I agree with CrispiI if this was a cat or dog it would be a family emergency but because it's a fish it isn't? That doesn't seem right. I'm not havin a go but this is your responsibility as a pet owner to do the right thing.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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I’m only young though my mum and dad would tell me off

But, ok for the fishes sake what do I do
 
jinjerJOSH22
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Ellielouisemills said:
But, ok for the fishes sake what do I do
50% water change and don't forget the dechlorinator, mix a bit of warm water.
If you wake them i'm sure they'll understand
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Do I still have todo the big water change this week tho

Does she look a bit better in this??
 
jinjerJOSH22
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Ellielouisemills said:
Do I still have todo the big water change this week tho
Yes, keeping the routine maintenance is important. You will likely need to do multiple water changes in the next couple of weeks.
It's really hard to tell, I don't keep them so I have no reference point on what a healthy one looks like but red around the gills usually means there's water quality issues and given the stocking of the tank it's likely.
Keep in mind fish do sleep when the lights are out so inactivity at night is fairly normal.
 
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Ellielouisemills
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Ok tyvm for the help
 
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