Are cichlid setups boring?

LifeOfAquatics
  • #1
So i know that live plants are typically a no go with cichlids, but (asking all cichlid owners), is the tank boring with just rock? I'm thinking about diving into African cichlids but I feel like having a tank with just rocks in it would look kind of boring?

idk just wanted some thoughts, no hate to cichlid owners!

thanks!
 
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Msdp11009
  • #2
Google cichlid tanks or plant free aquarium aquascapes for photo ideas. I have seen some nice plant free aquariums before.
 
Mudminnow
  • #3
There are many species of cichlids. And, generally, I don't find them boring at all. Many cichlids have interesting behaviors and social dynamics to watch. African rift lake cichlids are no exception.

If you want plants and African rift lake cichlids, that's a bit tricky to pull off, but totally doable. Here is a planted Malawi cichlid tank I've always been impressed by. It was created years ago by Travis Simpson.

Mod edit: image removed for copyright issues
 
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Valleywren
  • #4
I hear great things about how interesting Multis are to watch- I don’t think you’d miss the plants!
 
LifeOfAquatics
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
There are many species of cichlids. And, generally, I don't find them boring at all. Many cichlids have interesting behaviors and social dynamics to watch. African rift lake cichlids are no exception.

If you want plants and African rift lake cichlids, that's a bit tricky to pull off, but totally doable. Here is a planted Malawi cichlid tank I've always been impressed by. It was created years ago by Travis Simpson.
would you say that the personality of the cichlids would make up for the setup being rocks only?
 
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Azedenkae
  • #6
For me, no. The cichlids have so much personality and so many varied behaviors that they themselves already offer me endless enjoyment.
 
LifeOfAquatics
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
I hear great things about how interesting Multis are to watch- I don’t think you’d miss the plants!
do you think fake plants would work well with cichlids or would it look rather odd?
For me, no. The cichlids have so much personality and so many varied behaviors that they themselves already offer me endless enjoyment.
would you recommend 6-10 cichlids or 3 fancy goldfish for a 40 gallon?
those are my top two choices as of now and I'm trying to decide and am hoping to get some opinions from others.

thanks!
 
Valleywren
  • #8
would you say that the personality of the cichlids would make up for the setup being rocks only?
I would definitely say so, but it’s up to individual opinion. If you want loads of personality in a plant-friendly fish, I’d suggest pea puffers.
do you think fake plants would work well with cichlids or would it look rather odd?
I think fake plants always look odd.
If you’re daring and creative and determined, a cichlid scape need not be boring at all. You can google “cichlid aquascape” and look at the pictures.
 
Mudminnow
  • #9
would you say that the personality of the cichlids would make up for the setup being rocks only?
For me, no. I like my plants. But, there are plenty of non-rift lake cichlids that can be kept more easily with plants. Fishes like kribensis, apistogramma, keyhole cichlids, etc., etc. This way, you can more easily have both.
 
Azedenkae
  • #10
would you recommend 6-10 cichlids or 3 fancy goldfish for a 40 gallon?
those are my top two choices as of now and I'm trying to decide and am hoping to get some opinions from others.
6-10 cichlids absolutely!
 
PeterFishKeepin
  • #11
its about the colour of the fish, the interact you get from them, sure plants make it look nice but the fish is what makes it than much more special, id go with 6-10 cichlids, peacocks, mbuna, has, labs
 
MacZ
  • #12
would you recommend 6-10 cichlids or 3 fancy goldfish for a 40 gallon?
those are my top two choices as of now and I'm trying to decide and am hoping to get some opinions from others.
Completely depends on the cichlids! If you mean Malawi cichlids (What people know as "african cichlids", Mbuna, Peacocks, Haps) for sure are NOT advisable for a tank in that range, because of their aggression potential and territorial behaviour.

For Malawi cichlids I'd recommend nothing smaller than a tank of 150x40x40cm absolute minimum. I have a bad conscience saying 120x60x60 can work for a single small species and 8-10 individuals.

What makes setups with only rocks "boring" is when people try to safe money on rocks buying too small, too few or simply ugly chunks of rocks and end up with a tank that looks like a sales tank at a store.

I'm not a goldfish fan at all, but for a 40 gallon tank, do the goldfish. At least that won't end in a bloodbath.

And to many here: Honestly, if you have (and sorry to say so, it shows in this thread!) no experience with "African cichlids" PLEASE do not give any recommendations!

If you want cichlids and plants, go South American or West/Central African instead of Rift Lakes (Malawi, Tanganyika, Victoria).
 
LifeOfAquatics
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
Completely depends on the cichlids! If you mean Malawi cichlids (What people know as "african cichlids", Mbuna, Peacocks, Haps) for sure are NOT advisable for a tank in that range, because of their aggression potential and territorial behaviour.

For Malawi cichlids I'd recommend nothing smaller than a tank of 150x40x40cm absolute minimum. I have a bad conscience saying 120x60x60 can work for a single small species and 8-10 individuals.

What makes setups with only rocks "boring" is when people try to safe money on rocks buying too small, too few or simply ugly chunks of rocks and end up with a tank that looks like a sales tank at a store.

I'm not a goldfish fan at all, but for a 40 gallon tank, do the goldfish. At least that won't end in a bloodbath.

And to many here: Honestly, if you have (and sorry to say so, it shows in this thread!) no experience with "African cichlids" PLEASE do not give any recommendations!

If you want cichlids and plants, go South American or West/Central African instead of Rift Lakes (Malawi, Tanganyika, Victoria).
a 40 gallon would end in a bloodbath with mbunas?
 
MacZ
  • #14
a 40 gallon would end in a bloodbath with mbunas?
Yes. When I bred Rift Lake cichlids (pretty much all the 1990s) 40 gallon was a growout tank, not a longterm keeping display tank. You've been advised poorly on tank size.
 
Valleywren
  • #15
Yes. When I bred Rift Lake cichlids (pretty much all the 1990s) 40 gallon was a growout tank, not a longterm keeping display tank. You've been advised poorly on tank size.
I second this- African cichlids need plenty of room. You might try South American cichlids, or, like I said, multis.
But your heart seems pretty set on these rift lake cichlids- why not just upgrade to the needed tank size?
 
LifeOfAquatics
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
I second this- African cichlids need plenty of room. You might try South American cichlids, or, like I said, multis.
But your heart seems pretty set on these rift lake cichlids- why not just upgrade to the needed tank size?
ah i cant upgrade now unfortunately, i may reconsider but thank you for your advice!
Yes. When I bred Rift Lake cichlids (pretty much all the 1990s) 40 gallon was a growout tank, not a longterm keeping display tank. You've been advised poorly on tank size.
ah yes i do think i have been, thank you so much for your advice and for steering me in the right direction!
 

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