Anxiety.... Question

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by tunastrack, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. tunastrack

    tunastrack Well Known Member Member

    So not many people know this about me. But I have a moderate panic/anxiety disorder. I refuse to be medicated for it because Ive been there done that once already with medications for my Fibromyalgia, I just blindly followed my doctors advice and sadly got addicted/dependent on the pain medication. I opted to stop taking it, however I got really sick and had to be put on a medication called suboxone (which I hate as well).

    Anyway, because I do not use medication, sometimes it can be a bit overwhelming. However I have learned of ways to try to keep in in check. Unless there is something pretty stressful going on, or I accidently get served caffine products etc (this actually happens a lot with resturants etc) I have managed to keep in in check. Which is why I LOVE fish keeping so much. I find it so soothing and on some of my bad days, all I have to do is go sit in front of one of my tanks and just watch and talk to my fish and it really has a calming effect on me. I think this is why I grew so attached to this hobby so quickly.

    They say that petting dogs and cats can help with this sort of thing, however I think fish keeping does too. Anyone else experience this?
     
  2. monkeypie102

    monkeypie102 Well Known Member Member

    I actually did my Comp I final paper on the pros and cons of pet keeping (I included fish, dogs and cats) and petting animals is actually said to help people with PTSD, children with a HD (mostly the playing with animals), and also are used for people with diabetes and epalepcy, my cousin is trying to find a program for her daughter to get a dog for epilepcy.

    I however find it calming myself... I have 4 running tanks in my bedroom and when I am feeling stressed or annoyed I sit in there and watch my 29g while listening to the waterfall effect from my 26g after 30 mins I am in a better mood!!!
     
  3. Junne

    Junne Fishlore Legend Member

    I can relate :) - I think if you can do without the medications, then that is the best way but, on another token, some times medications can help if it gets too severe. I have heard other homeopathic ways to treat that as well and yes, PETS ( almost any kind ) are GREAT for that! FISH included!!! I love to watch my fish and snails with their antics! My hubby doesn't understand what is so fascinating so this group here helps that other people understand even if my hubby doesn't.....

    I have a slight panic/anxiety moments
    I have always hated being in crowds of people, etc.
    I have never liked being the center of attention ( like playing in a band, dancing, etc )
    If left up to my own devices, I would rather be alone ( although not possible when you have kids, right? )

    I don't consider myself unsociable but I am shy which makes it hard to start new friends, etc.
    I guess all my life people had thought I was a snob because of my shyness. I am a lot better than I was when I was in grade/high school.
    I was never exposed to many activities as a child - we didn't have very many kids in our neighborhood so that didn't help.
    One of the reasons why I got my son in to martial arts and modeling - so he wouldn't end up being shy like me......

    Junne
     




  4. A

    AlexAlex Well Known Member Member

    I can relate to the "not being in crowds" scenario. I don't mind shopping when I need to (buying fishes, groceries, etc), but other than that, I will rarely get out to do a whole lot.

    Some folks (in my personal life) have thought I was a hermit because I rarely get out besides the normal things you get out for. "Oh, don't you ever go to movies?"... I haven't went to see a movie since my kids were toddlers back in the late 90's and early 00's. If that tells you anything about me being in the midst of a bunch of people.

    My partner is the same way, and maybe that's why we click... lol

    Good to hear about you dealing with things nicely, Tuna. Keep it up, I have faith in you! :)
     
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    tunastrack

    tunastrack Well Known Member Member

    Yes I totally relate to the shopping/being in crowds thing. However I do actually like to go. It is just getting there that is the worst. The whole way in the car I have vivid images of us getting into wrecks, or the car breaking down leaving us stranded in the middle of the road with my kids in the car etc. I think a lot of it comes from having bad luck in the past. I honestly sometimes feel like I have some sort of PTSD over some things I went through earlier in life. Also, if I dont have my hubby with me when we go shopping, if it is really crowded I cant handle it. If he is with me Im ok. But if we get seperated or soemthing I freak out. I have cried a few times. Silly, but just how I am. I think becoming a mother made me realize just how fragile life really can be and I have just went to the extreme so to speak worrying about stuff..lol..

    Thanks Alex :)..I would feel much better if I was off of this stuff completely. However that would take inpatient rehab which is out of the question with 2 kids. One only being 5. Maybe one day tho. I do like to try and warn anyone about the dangers of not researching the drugs your doctors tell you to take. I would hate for anyone to be in my situation.
     
  6. Junne

    Junne Fishlore Legend Member

    Funny because before I had my son, I used to fly all over the world. I worked in travel so I took at least 4 trips a year to various places.
    I AM SCARED TO DEATH to fly now!!!!! I am more afraid of A. losing my son. B. My son losing me and being motherless or all the other irrational fears of flying and dying in a plane!!!! I know its irrational because the chances of that happening versus me getting in the car with him are slim to none. BUT, its still a thought in my head. I have no problems driving however.... Weird!
     
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    tunastrack

    tunastrack Well Known Member Member

    That isnt weird. Its called being a mom. I think you being in control of your own car is probably what makes the difference. I actually would rather drive myself than be a passenger. When Im driving I dont worry as much about wrecking, but I listen for any and all strange noises from the car etc. Very paroniod. But it makes sense. No one can mother our kids like us. So it only makes sense that it would be a fear of ours. I too used to worry greatly about loosing my son when he was little. Now that he is almost 15 and an OX I have settled down quite a lot with that. I think because I already went through it with my son, that my fears eased up a bit with Taylor. But I do still dwell a lot on my health and worry if I will watch them grow up and start their own families. I pray all the time that God will keep me around long enough to see them as happy well adjusted adults with kids. :p)..
     
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    3aquariums Valued Member Member

    I live alone because I can't tolerate having room mates, but some how have a boyfriend and steady employment. I have long term anxiety/depression disorder and have been diagnosed with aspergers syndrome. Outside of my house is this unpredictable, crazy chaotic world where I don't know what verbal codes and non verbal codes they are using with each other, but I just get along best I can. I'm on long term medication, one of which I try to avoid taking unless absolutely panicking. Having pets is enough stress for me, I can't imagine what having kids around must be like! But I hated not having any pets in college. My cats have their own room, and I train my two little Pomeranians according to the therapy guidelines (various success).
    I come home every day and calm my dogs down by feeding and holding them, and spend however long it takes staring at my 46 bowfront fish until I feel better. Then I clean up after and socialize my cats with the doggies help. They don't like being kick out of the room so my cats can eat dinner. I have a 29 gallon in my upstairs bedroom with a lot of airstones in it for white noise to help me sleep.
    Maybe some of this post will help someone else out, I hope. You guys are the best and I wish you all luck too!
     
  9. kinezumi89

    kinezumi89 Fishlore VIP Member

    It's so interesting you posted this thread, I'm reading a thread on reddit where people confess their secrets and this is similar, but it's someone I know :) (Well, sorta know, you know ;D)

    I'm the exact same with crowds. I hate them. I don't get panicky, but being in really crowded areas makes me incredibly irritated and cranky. Maybe a mild form of claustrophobia or something?

    I agree about the fish though. This is finals week for my boyfriend and I and we've been super busy and kinda stressed, and last night we sat in front of the fish tank for like half an hour, just watching the fishies. :)
     
  10. fishynoob

    fishynoob Well Known Member Member

    I completely relate to you with this. I am a hermit and so is my partner I hate socialising. I am not shy and I can easily strike up a conversation but I would just rather be at home looking at my fish! I have cried at the thought of leaving the house getting into the car and driving somewhere out of my comfort zone (more than 20 mins away or on roads I have not travelled before)
    I actually turned down a promotion because of my anxiety about driving. The first thing I do when I get home from work (after greeting the family) is to sit by the tank and chill for a while.

    I also agree with researching the drugs doctors give you. I have never been addicted to any drug but I have found out twice that I have been given drugs not recommended for my medical history. And the consequences could have been dire if I had not been alerted to them. (I have since changed doctors - always do your research they are human to and they do make mistakes!)

    Edit: This thread has just put an awesome song called anxiety in my head - Thank you!
     
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    AlexAlex Well Known Member Member

    Ironically, there is a county not far from mine that's called "Hermitage". Maybe I should reside there instead. LoL
     
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    3aquariums Valued Member Member

    I've been through multiple doctors as well. The worst for me are the physologists, some of them are so irresponsible with their position.
     
  13. fishynoob

    fishynoob Well Known Member Member

    I must say this thread is doing wonders for dispelling the "fish lovers are strange hermit like creatures who hate going outside" image. :;laughing
     
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    tunastrack

    tunastrack Well Known Member Member

    Yes, I too am much more comfy at home. It is hard sometimes because I feel safe here and a peace. With my kids usually right beside me (I stay in my room a lot too which isnt good) and all my cats surrounding me. That is when I feel like I can breathe and not stress out.

    Having kids is hard, however my love for them far surpasses any illness I could ever have. So I deal with it. sometimes it does stink trying to control my anxiety especially when it and my kids being kids seems to happen together a lot lol...I have learned to go take some quiet time and relax myself. Now that I have all my tanks, its becoming even easier.

    Yes, I did intend for it to be sort of a "confessions" thread. I often wonder how many others suffer in silence which I think is heart breaking thought. Which is why I also mentioned the suboxone and drug addiction. I didnt think it was appropriate to start a thread just about that. However I am curious to know if others have ever had to be on it?

    Oh yeah, this same doctor also wanted to put me on a medication to help with my tiredness! I found out later it was basically a legal form a speed!!..Needless to say, even tho he has cost me a lot of happiness, peace of mind and money over the years I have not been back to see him since!
     
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    3aquariums Valued Member Member

    It really is difficult to find a doctor who you can be comfortable with. I gave up on psy. therpy. after my last attempt at finding one who can help with aspergers. They were making it harder for me to deal, if you can believe that! They meant well though, the typically taught techniques just don't help me.
     
  16. Tigress Hill

    Tigress Hill Well Known Member Member

    I am not a person to stay at home, I like getting outside. I have no mental disorders, nor physical ones. But when I cannot manage to calm myself on my own my tanks help me a great deal. I fall asleep to the sound of several waterfalls at night, and it puts me in a meditative state.

    It is rare the occasion I become angry, but when I do it is possibly comparable to the Hulk in magnitude:eek: Therefore, I attempt to avoid losing control of my emotions. My aquatic pets have helped drastically.
     
  17. kb9plc

    kb9plc Well Known Member Member

    I find it highly irritating how quickly doctors are always wanting to put people on meds for every lil (and not so lil) thing! I actually have a friend with Fybromyalgia and Anxiety issues, so I am quite familiar with the things both can do to the body. I'm also aware that the meds that they typically subscribe for both conditions can turn you into a zombie! Now I'm not an all-natural-going-to-live-off-the-earth-and-sing-with-the-birds-and-tree-hug-once-an-hour kinda girl..... but I do think that putting so much meds in your body can't possibly be a good thing in the long haul. Sometimes its unavoidable, but a lot of the times it has become way too much of an automatic reply. Have a problem? Pop a pill. It's crazy.

    As for the relaxing nature of fish keeping, or pets in general.... ABSOLUTLEY!
    Just sitting there watching them calms me down when I'm ready to explode from a day at work. I think that's one of the reasons why I put all 4 of my tanks in the entry room of the house. Well..... the room that is by the door we commonly use (not the front door). And I find myself looking at certain fish for certain effects. Like if I want to laugh.... I go and look at either my betta, endlers, or my snails that like snail surfing on their bubble wall. LOL

    I also find my cats relaxing. Especially my loving lil kitten boy. He's 8 months and purrs like a jack hammer. There is nothing more calming then the purr of a content kitten curled up next to you or on you. :)
     
  18. oscarsbud

    oscarsbud Well Known Member Member

    I have been diagnosed with moderate to severe depression. I hate crowds and being the center of attention for any reason and would rather stay home by myself whenever possible. I don't mind the occasional drive or going somewhere once in a while as long as my husband is with me. I loved working on 3rd shift because there weren't as many people there and I love 24 hr. stores because I can get my shopping done while everybody else sleeps. I was on medication which did help some, but since I am laid off I can no longer afford it.

    All that being said, I love my fish and cats. I don't know what I would do if they weren't in my life. There is nothing more soothing to me than sitting on the couch and watching the slow graceful movement of the angels as they float by. The cats are a great comfort when they are on my lap in the evening watching tv with me.

    To me, a life without pets would be a very empty life indeed.
     
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    tunastrack

    tunastrack Well Known Member Member

    To me, a life without pets would be a very empty life indeed.[/QUOTE]

    I cant tell you how often I say this same exact thing to myself. I mean my cats have been there for me at some of my darkest hours. All 5 (6 now w the baby) congregated around me on the bed just sleeping and hanging out with me. They make me feel safe and happy. The sound of their puuuurrrring is a source of joy for me. I guess it kinda also goes along with that unconditional love thing as well. After I lost my mom, our family split apart. Which was really hard on me. At the time my twin boys Geek and QuiQui were babies, they were more helpful to me with the depression and anxiety more than hubby was at times...lol...He would try but just didnt "get it" and they would calm me down and make me feel better every single time. I love them as if they are my children.

    I can not imagine not having my animals. Sure I have way more than what is considered average. However I really do think those who do not like pets are really missing out. And it makes me sad to be honest.
     
  20. oscarsbud

    oscarsbud Well Known Member Member

    I know what you mean. When my husband and I first got together, he wasn't exactly a cat person. But I told him in no uncertain terms that I would not live in a house that didn't have at least 1 cat in it. He has come around nicely in the 20 years we have been together :) and right now we have 3.
     




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