Angels spawned...

Butterfly
  • #1
As you know I have tubs outside for the summer. Now the angels-1 koi and 1 sunset blusher have spawned on the side of the tub. We'll just have to see how they do. I think when they go wigglers(if the eggs last that long) I may siphon them into a bucket and bring them in. Wouldn't it be fascinating o see if they look different raised outside? I don't know- decisions! decisions!
Carol
 

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skippi
  • #2
That is really cool carol I can't wait for my angels to pair off and spawn. Will angels pair again if their "mate" dies??
 

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Butterfly
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  • #3
Usually they will pair again Skippi.
Carol
 
skippi
  • #4
Thanks Carol wasn't sure.
 
Isabella
  • #5
Congratulations Carol!!! ;D I'm happy for you! I'd love to hear about angels being raised outside and if they'd look any different (perhaps better) than the angels raised under artificial conditions. After all, nature itself is the best possible environment to live as well as to breed for fish and for any animals really
 
Butterfly
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
It was really exciting, I got to watch them spawn on the wall of the tub. It has rained the last two evenings so I think that's what encouragd the spawn.
Carol
 

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hopesmom
  • #7
heck I'll spawn if it will make it rain here! We are having a terrible drought here, and I am sick of triple digit temperatures!!!
seriously, Carol, I think your tubs are a really neat idea - obviously the angels are loving it! Wish I could see them. Are you gonna take pics?
Denise
 
Isabella
  • #8
I'd love to have tubs in the summer, but as I've learned this particular summer, NY weather is no longer to be trusted. During the heat wave, it was too hot to keep fish outside EVEN in the shadow. Way too hot. Besides, it's too hot here practically every summer, and even if it's not, you never know how much the temperature can suddenly increase the next day. Too much to risk with delicate freshwater fish for me. Fortunately, the last 2-3 days were really nice in terms of weather here - it wasn't very humid and there was a nice breeze outside. Just now we're having a big thunderstorm with a lot of rain. For the next 2-3 days it's supposed to be nice as well. After that, heat and humidity are coming back (but hopefully it won't be anything like the heat wave!).
 
Butterfly
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Heres where the pictures are all ready posted. The angels are in the top tub.

Carol
 
Isabella
  • #10
That's cool. Let us know how the fry are doing
 

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Butterfly
  • Thread Starter
  • #11
The eggs are all gone this afternoon I imagine the one red platy or the algae eater got them.
Carol
 
Isabella
  • #12
Oh NO! :-\ Well ... maybe next summer, or perhaps again this summer? If not, maybe you could keep the two angels separately from all other fish to increase the chances of the fry making it.
 
Butterfly
  • Thread Starter
  • #13
I think the one red platy did it. She was teh last of a group I got at an auction and she was being terribly aggressive, so I put her outside thinking she would enjoy a bigger amount of water. She did calm down, but who can resist fresh cavier
Carol
 
chickadee
  • #14
oh dear I am so sorry. Platy sandwich anyone??

Rose
:'(
 

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Butterfly
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  • #15
LOL Rose !!! I did feel a bit that way though
Carol
 
Gamer
  • #16
My mating pair of angelfish laid eggs weeks ago and those fry are currently growing up in a 10 gallon tank. Today, just before I added some upside-down catfish,they spawned again.

Here are a few pictures of them guarding their eggs.


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corylover
  • #17
congrats. good luck with the eggs. love the angels very nice looking. I'm hoping to get into angels soon too.
 
Allie
  • #18
Wow congrats. We can't ever get ours to the fry stage.
 

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COBettaCouple
  • #19
Cool.. they're such beautiful angels - the fry will be great!
 
Gamer
  • #20
Thanks. I doubt I'll ever be able to find another pair as beautiful as this one. Their first batch of fry are starting to take on their angel forms and will soon be the size of a dime and then I can sell them to a local pet store. And the current batch of eggs, have hatched today and are in their wiggler stage!
 
susitna-flower
  • #21
John, did you take the fry away the first time?
 
Gamer
  • #22
John, did you take the fry away the first time?

Yep. I moved the first batch of fry after about a week with their parents. At first, I took them and placed them in a breeder box I had in their tank. Then, when it was ready, I moved them to my cycled 10 gallon tank with no substrate. That's where they've been for a couple weeks now. This time, I think I am going to leave the fry in with the parents for a couple weeks. I covered the filter intake with some brine shrimp netting so it should be fine as long as I take them out before they're 5 weeks old and I plan to remove them well before then. If they're with their parents around weeks 5-6, they start to eat their skin and fins which weakens and ultimately kills them.
 

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susitna-flower
  • #23
I saw your other post, but thanks for the explanation. You do have a lovely breeding pair, and exceptional if you can leave the fry with them.....you are lucky..
 
Martinismommy
  • #24
What a beautiful pair of Angels you have there...I'd love to see some baby pics!
 
MissMTS
  • #25
Congratulations!!!!
 
COBettaCouple
  • #26
I think that we really need pics of those little fry!
 

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voiceless_kat
  • #27
That is a beautiful pair of angels..Congratulations on the fry, some pics would be great, I have never seen dime size angels....cute I bet!
 
COBettaCouple
  • #28
Hmm.. maybe I don't want to see that then, I'd be wanting to buy them all! drool
 
maniss
  • #29
nice work

cheers to u bt I don't know how to raise angles...any suggestions??
 
Gamer
  • #30
These are the best shots of their first fry I could get at the moment. More of them and some of the wigglers to come:


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The only advice I could give is what I've read and have followed that has worked for me. Remove them from their parents within a month. Don't stick to a breeder box as that could stunt growth, set up a 10 gallon grow-out tank and transfer them there. Feed baby brine shrimp 3-4 times daily and do a daily water change as they are sensitive to everything at this stage.
 

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corylover
  • #31
they are so cute congrats. I can't wait to get my angels now.
 
COBettaCouple
  • #32
Now you did it! Could you ship all those cute little fry over here?
 
grneyez808
  • #33
I think my super veil comb tail gold marbles are getting ready to lay eggs.

I have 2 gold marble angels and they are constantly pecking and cleaning a surface in my tank and are highly protective of the area, are they doing what I think they are doing? I noticed that their sexual organs are more noticeable now and read a lil and believe that they are preparing. If you have some info for me I would appreciate it. Heres a pic or some pics of them.

My Angels

The bigger one is 11 inches tall from top to bottom =0). The smaller one is about 8 inches.
 
Allie
  • #34
The bigger one is 11 inches tall from top to bottom =0). The smaller one is about 8 inches.
Wow...we had a pair of angelfish who had the exact same tails...they were huge too. So I had a pair of super veils too. Cool. They were fighting all the time so we sold them. :-\
Here the male we had....I'll see if I can find a pix of the female.
 

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grneyez808
  • #35
Hello,
My gold marble super veil/comb tails spawned today. I watched for about 2 1/2 hours as she layed them and he fertilized the eggs. They chose my filters intake shaft as their breeding spot. Hundreds of eggs were layed and none remain. She ate them all. It can't be water conditions because my water is 0ppm ammonia, 0ppm Nitrites and nitrates between 6 and 10. Was it because of the other fish in the tank were considered a threat? I almost took the eggs out and tried to raise them on my own with an airstone 10 gallon tank and a heater but opted not to. There were about 70 eggs left and they were doing what they were supposed to, fanning them and protecting them. Then all of a sudden she ate them all. This was totally unexpected and it's funny I had no clue on what to look for until I read a book at the library yesterday and realized the reason why they were pecking at my intake and heater for a few days. Now I really want to succeed on breeding these two. Please help me with some info. Here are some pics of them today. The male is about 12 inches tall and the female 8.
 
FishKing
  • #36
They probably ate them because it may have been one of their first times. It takes angelfish about six times to finally realize that the eggs are not suppose to be eaten. They could have also thought the spot was not safe or other fish could be posing a threat. They'll learn some day. I recommend you put them in their own separate tank.

You're right they are a beautiful pair.
 
grneyez808
  • #37
thank u Fish King. when should I put them in their own tank? How long till they spawn again?
 
susitna-flower
  • #38
So fun....something to look forward to....hope it works out next time.
 

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blue_sable
  • #39
mine spawn about every week and a half to two weeks I have the marble/ zebra veil tails
 
Butterfly
  • Thread Starter
  • #40
mine spawn about every week and a half to two weeks I have the marble/ zebra veil tails
yep about right. They will also spawn more easily right before/during a storm. When I was raising angels I would do a huge water change right before a storm and just like clock work they would lay
Carol
 

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