Angelfish Pair Spawned For The First Time Almost 2 Days Ago.

My angelfish pair spawned for the first time (to my knowledge) almost 2 full days ago in my 29G community tank (EDIT: They were laid Thursday night, so almost 3 days ago now). They spawned on the glass as close to the top as they could be. They are both fanning the eggs and are very protective of them, which is good, but they are not eating white eggs unless they are completely away from any clear eggs. Over 1/3 of the eggs are white now. Me and my mother tried to take the white eggs out yesterday when there were only about 20, but the parents were very distressed and angry (to the point of trying to jump out of the water to attack my mom’s hand that was above the eggs, but not even in the water), so we stopped because we didn’t want them to be discouraged and stop protecting the eggs altogether. Today some of the eggs are wigglers now. If the white eggs continue to spread at the same rate, almost all of the eggs will be white tomorrow.
In the tank there are tetras, ghost catfish, otos, and one or two ghost shrimp. There was also an additional angelfish in the tank, but once the pair spawned he started getting nipped pretty hard so we moved him into our angelfish-only tank.
Also, I read that in order for fry to live, 25-50% water changes need to be done daily, but the eggs were laid at the very top of the glass, and since I have a 29G tank, so a water change would leave them out of the water for way too long and probably kill them. My last water change was four days ago (two days before they spawned).
I don’t want to remove future eggs from the tank even if they are spawned on a movable surface because of how often angels can spawn, but I’d like to at least try to give them a chance in my community tank.
Finally, here are my questions; what can I do about the white eggs? And what do I do about water changes? Should I leave my tank’s lights on at night so the parents can see falling wigglers or turn it off at the normal time? (EDIT: I turned my tank’s lights off since I didn’t get an answer so let me know if I should turn them back on!!) Any other advice will be greatly appreciated!!! Thank you!!

 

So I'm confused...some of the eggs have hatched (wiggles) and others haven't????

I would think the tetras might be an issue with the fry....

bizaliz3 has tons of experience raising angel fry, perhaps she can help

 

So I'm confused...some of the eggs have hatched (wiggles) and others haven't????

I would think the tetras might be an issue with the fry....

bizaliz3 has tons of experience raising angel fry, perhaps she can help

None of the eggs have hatched, but some have been falling and the parents catch them in their mouths and try to put them back on the glass and they’re in a cycle. The tetra ate an egg that was floating when the parents didn’t see it because they were picking up another egg. I don’t know if they’re actually wigglers though.

 

Gotcha... wigglers are the first stage after the eggs hatch if it was almost two days ago these should be showing up very soon

 

Some of the eggs do look like they are wiggling in the egg and have small things hanging off of the egg. Would that be it?

 

That's the larval stage. Affectionately called wigglers. Congratulations. 2-4 days they will be free swimming fry.

 

That's the larval stage. Affectionately called wigglers. Congratulations. 2-4 days they will be free swimming fry.

Thanks! Do you know the answer to any of my other questions?

 

The white eggs are usually removed by the parents. If they are not removed you should remove them. Some breeders dose the tank with an antI fungus, because a fungus will quickly start growing on the white eggs and envelop the rest.As far as the light, keeping it on all the time is not good for the wigglers, however the parents will need to see in order to protect them. You may want to use some kind of low light like a black light or something. Did I miss any questions?

 

The white eggs are usually removed by the parents. If they are not removed you should remove them. Some breeders dose the tank with an antI fungus, because a fungus will quickly start growing on the white eggs and envelop the rest.As far as the light, keeping it on all the time is not good for the wigglers, however the parents will need to see in order to protect them. You may want to use some kind of low light like a black light or something. Did I miss any questions?

Thank you! Do you know what I should do about water changes? I was thinking about waiting until all the live eggs fell from the glass, then doing the water changes from then on.

Update: All of the live eggs have fallen from the glass! All that’s left are white eggs and the mom has started to eat them. I have medium sized rocks as substrate in my tank, and I cleared them away from the area the eggs were spawned so they wouldn’t fall and get lost between the rocks. At first today I couldn’t find the wigglers, but then I realized that the mother is keeping all of them (and some white eggs…) in the corner on the exposed glass. The father keeps swimming around and looking for any lost wigglers and chasing off any tetras that get too close. Is it okay that the mom is keepin a few white eggs in a pile with the wigglers? I don’t think she wants to eat it because she usually has live ones in her mouth at the same time as a white one so she just spits them out again.

 

Update: All of the live eggs have fallen from the glass! All that’s left are white eggs and the mom has started to eat them. I have medium sized rocks as substrate in my tank, and I cleared them away from the area the eggs were spawned so they wouldn’t fall and get lost between the rocks. At first today I couldn’t find the wigglers, but then I realized that the mother is keeping all of them (and some white eggs…) in the corner on the exposed glass. The father keeps swimming around and looking for any lost wigglers and chasing off any tetras that get too close. Is it okay that the mom is keepin a few white eggs in a pile with the wigglers? I don’t think she wants to eat it because she usually has live ones in her mouth at the same time as a white one so she just spits them out again.

The white eggs will start growing fungus and envelop any viable eggs and/or wigglers that are next to them. Experienced angelfish parents will remove them before the eggs start hatching. As long as the wigglers are not next to the unfertilized eggs they should be fine.

 

The white eggs will start growing fungus and envelop any viable eggs and/or wigglers that are next to them. Experienced angelfish parents will remove them before the eggs start hatching. As long as the wigglers are not next to the unfertilized eggs they should be fine.

I tried to take some of the white eggs out when I first found the eggs a few days ago, but the parents were being too protective and kept trying to attack. I put my net in the tank to fend them off while I used tweezers to take some eggs out, but they started ramming the net with their bodies. I got a few of the white eggs out (at the time there were only about a dozen) before stopping because my angels were not calming down at all.
Now, all of the white eggs that were on the glass have been eaten and the wigglers are in a pile in the front corner where I can barely see them. I saw the mother spit out some white eggs onto the pile a few hours ago, but I cannot get a good enough angle to see if any white eggs are in the pile now.
Is there anything that can be done to remove white eggs in the pile if I do see some? Or do I have to just hope that one of the parents will eat them? How do I calm the parents while taking white eggs out of future spawns?
Also, the mother did eat a few white eggs off the glass in the beginning, but not any that were near healthy eggs. Since the eggs are so close together, are the parents supposed to eat white eggs and accidentally get a few healthy ones, or are they expected to be able to only pick up the white eggs?
Sorry that I have so many questions, this is just very new for me!! Thank you to anyone willing to answer!

 

Congrats on the breeding pair!
Personally I think you are overanalyzing. You are trying to be too involved. You need to just let the parents learn how to be parents. It almost always takes them a few tries to get it right. Let them learn!!

Are you in some sort of hurry to have babies? If not, I highly suggest you just back off and give the parents a chance to figure it out. Right now you are just causing them a lot of unnecessary stress.

If you want to be this involved in the egg hatching process...you should remove the eggs from the tank and put Them in another tank and do the caretaking there. Obviously you can't do that this time around. But for future spawns, which take place every couple weeks, put a tall piece of slate in there, or a fake plant with big broad leaves. Give them a vertical surface to lay on so they won't use the glass. I'm assuming you don't have much for them to use because the glass is usually last resort. As long as they don't use that glass you should be able to remove them with whatever they have been laid on. Because trying to scrape the eggs off the glass is pretty hazardous to the eggs. It's very tedious and virtually impossible when the parents are attacking your hand.

Do you have a tank to grow the babies out in?

 

Thanks bizaliz3. I was hoping you'd chime in. A breeding pair and a school of tetras in a 29 gallon. To be perfectly honest I'm surprised they didn't eat the eggs right after spawning. A 29 is ok for a spawning pair of angels, but with other fish in there I would think they'd be too stressed to have any success. This pair has the potential to be wonderful parents.

 

Thanks bizaliz3. I was hoping you'd chime in. A breeding pair and a school of tetras in a 29 gallon. To be perfectly honest I'm surprised they didn't eat the eggs right after spawning. A 29 is ok for a spawning pair of angels, but with other fish in there I would think they'd be too stressed to have any success. This pair has the potential to be wonderful parents.

I completely agree. A 29 gallon is only suitable for a breeding pair if there's no other fish...except for maybe some bottom dwellers. The Profile says there's a 3rd angel....I hope that one is gone....If not it must be getting bullied hard in that small space.

 

Please don't get us wrong MafleyF. It's just that you seem enthusiastic about breeding angels, which myself and bizaliz3 are as well. We just would like you to be successful. The hard part is already done. Getting a male and female is not easy, as its not easy to determine gender.

 

Congrats on the breeding pair!
Personally I think you are overanalyzing. You are trying to be too involved. You need to just let the parents learn how to be parents. It almost always takes them a few tries to get it right. Let them learn!!

Are you in some sort of hurry to have babies? If not, I highly suggest you just back off and give the parents a chance to figure it out. Right now you are just causing them a lot of unnecessary stress.

If you want to be this involved in the egg hatching process...you should remove the eggs from the tank and put Them in another tank and do the caretaking there. Obviously you can't do that this time around. But for future spawns, which take place every couple weeks, put a tall piece of slate in there, or a fake plant with big broad leaves. Give them a vertical surface to lay on so they won't use the glass. I'm assuming you don't have much for them to use because the glass is usually last resort. As long as they don't use that glass you should be able to remove them with whatever they have been laid on. Because trying to scrape the eggs off the glass is pretty hazardous to the eggs. It's very tedious and virtually impossible when the parents are attacking your hand.

Do you have a tank to grow the babies out in?

I know that the angels can spawn every 2-3 weeks give or take and that the first spawn is usually the hardest, so I’m totally okay if none of them end up surviving, I just want to know the minimum of what I should be doing to help.
I’m not set on having babies, but since I’m willing to do the work I figure I might as well.
I have a 10G that I am planning on setting up today. I am not sure if I should put the tetras, catfish, and otos in the 10G temporarily so the parents can raise this spawn safely (I’d put them back after the fry either die or get to 3 weeks, then put the fry in the 10G and the other fish back in the 29G) or if I should use a turkey baster and take the wigglers out and put them in the 10G right now instead.
I would like the parents to raise them, but the 10G is way too small.
Another option could be keeping the wigglers in the tank but putting them in a mesh breeder box I have, but I thought it would be easier to eaither have the parents raise them or raise them myself instead of having the parents see the fry but not be able to actually take care of them.
What do you think I should do?
P.S.
Yes, the third angelfish was taken out of the tank and put in a different tank we have that’s 40G and exclusively for angelfish.
Thank you!

 

Please don't get us wrong MafleyF. It's just that you seem enthusiastic about breeding angels, which myself and bizaliz3 are as well. We just would like you to be successful. The hard part is already done. Getting a male and female is not easy, as its not easy to determine gender.

Thank you, I really appreciate all of your help!

 

As bizaliz3 stated, the minimum is to just leave them alone. They'll learn. If your serious about breeding tho, give the angels the 29 all to themselves. Pick up another tank for the rest of the community. Your also gonna want a larger grow out tank for the fry. I got that problem now. I have 80 fry in a 29.

 

As bizaliz3 stated, the minimum is to just leave them alone. They'll learn. If your serious about breeding tho, give the angels the 29 all to themselves. Pick up another tank for the rest of the community. Your also gonna want a larger grow out tank for the fry. I got that problem now. I have 80 fry in a 29.

I’m not interested in actually breeding angels, I just want to have a community tank, so I’ll keep it that way. The 10G won’t be for the fry to grow up in, they will be in it until they are about nickel sized and then they will be put in a 40G tank we already have with 11 dime to half dollar-sized angels (where we put the third adult angel for now). We will have to sell them because we won’t have room to keep them for long.
Thank you!!

 

I know that the angels can spawn every 2-3 weeks give or take and that the first spawn is usually the hardest, so I’m totally okay if none of them end up surviving, I just want to know the minimum of what I should be doing to help.
I’m not set on having babies, but since I’m willing to do the work I figure I might as well.
I have a 10G that I am planning on setting up today. I am not sure if I should put the tetras, catfish, and otos in the 10G temporarily so the parents can raise this spawn safely (I’d put them back after the fry either die or get to 3 weeks, then put the fry in the 10G and the other fish back in the 29G) or if I should use a turkey baster and take the wigglers out and put them in the 10G right now instead.
I would like the parents to raise them, but the 10G is way too small.
Another option could be keeping the wigglers in the tank but putting them in a mesh breeder box I have, but I thought it would be easier to eaither have the parents raise them or raise them myself instead of having the parents see the fry but not be able to actually take care of them.
What do you think I should do?
P.S.
Yes, the third angelfish was taken out of the tank and put in a different tank we have that’s 40G and exclusively for angelfish.
Thank you!

Does anyone know which one I should do? Putting my tetras, catfish, and otos in the 10G would only be temporary because I want to keep my community tank the same. There is already a breeder tank in my home that my mother has, so I’d rather keep my community fish as pets.

 

Does anyone know which one I should do? Putting my tetras, catfish, and otos in the 10G would only be temporary because I want to keep my community tank the same. There is already a breeder tank in my home that my mother has, so I’d rather keep my community fish as pets.

I'm confused what you are asking. Are you only concerned about the current batch of babies? And you want to put the community fish back in the 29 once you take the babies out? Does this mean you plan to remove all future eggs that are laid? I understand that you want to keep your community, But with a breeding pair of angels it's going to be hard to keep that a peaceful one. As you know, they spawn every 10-14 days.

And just so that you know, the parents can only raise them for a few weeks anyway. Any longer than that and the babies will start to nip at the parents slime Coats.

Also...it will take several months for the babies to reach nickel size in a 10 gallon. It can even cause stunting. I typically leave mine in a 10 no longer than 4 weeks. This is why a larger grow out tank is preferred.

But to answer your question...based on the options given....I would move the babies to the 10 gallon and take it from there. BUT That doesn't change the fact that your community tank's dynamics will never be the same. :-(

 

I'm confused what you are asking. Are you only concerned about the current batch of babies? And you want to put the community fish back in the 29 once you take the babies out? Does this mean you plan to remove all future eggs that are laid? I understand that you want to keep your community, But with a breeding pair of angels it's going to be hard to keep that a peaceful one. As you know, they spawn every 10-14 days.

And just so that you know, the parents can only raise them for a few weeks anyway. Any longer than that and the babies will start to nip at the parents slime Coats.

Also...it will take several months for the babies to reach nickel size in a 10 gallon. It can even cause stunting. I typically leave mine in a 10 no longer than 4 weeks. This is why a larger grow out tank is preferred.

But to answer your question...based on the options given....I would move the babies to the 10 gallon and take it from there. BUT That doesn't change the fact that your community tank's dynamics will never be the same. :-(

I am planning on either leaving the angels be and not interfering when they spawn in the future, putting the eggs in the 10G whenever my angels spawn (unless they spawn on the glass) and taking care of them, or moving my other small fish to the 10G and I’m just not sure which one I should do this time.

If the smaller fish go into the 10G, then once the fry are 3 weeks old, I will swap them and put the fry in the 10G and the small fish back into the 29G to give the parents a break from raising babies and so they don’t get nipped.

If I put the wigglers into the 10G, I don’t expect a problem with space and growth stunting because there probably won’t be very many that will live long enough for that to be a problem. If I end up needing to, I could move them into the 40G sooner, like when they are dime-sized, but the angels in the 40G are very aggressive little guys and are growing fast. I don’t know how much they’ll have grown by the time I’d need to add this spawn to that tank and some are already the size of, if not bigger than, half dollars. I would prefer these ones to be as big as possible before putting them in there.

There is another option that I think would be good. If you don’t think anything else is good enough, I can make a divider for my tank and keep the parents and wigglers on one side and the rest of the fish on the other. It would be mesh so the fry could probably fit through the holes, but none of the other fish would be able to. The parents can raise them in peace without worrying about tetras or anything else trying to get the wigglers and the other fish will be safe from the protective parents. Then, once the fish are 3 weeks, I can move them into the 10G and take the divider out of the tank until next time. It’ll kind of be a hassle to take out and put in a divider every time though haha, but I’ll do it if it’ll be better for everyone. Should I do that instead? I know that keeping it a community tank will be difficult, but I’m willing to put in the work.

Thank you for everything, I really appreciate this!!!

 

You would be putting eggs into your 10 every 2 weeks! That simply isn't feasible!

We are talking about two very different things here.
1st: what do with the current babies.
2nd: what to do in the future.

Current babies, move to the 10. Do daily water changes without fail so they can grow as fast as possible in the 10 gallon.

For the Future....I guess all I can say is I wish you luck. I don't see how you can do anything other than dispose of every new spawn. You can't support new eggs in your 10 gallon every couple weeks. And The parents could get very aggressive towards the other fish in the tank. A community in a 29 with a breeding pair of angels has the potential to get pretty ugly.

I'm not trying to sound harsh or bossy. I'm just being realistic with you! The fish in your 29 are going to live pretty stressful lives living with a breeding pair of angels. I'm only speaking from experience here.

 

I am planning on either leaving the angels be and not interfering when they spawn in the future, putting the eggs in the 10G whenever my angels spawn (unless they spawn on the glass) and taking care of them, or moving my other small fish to the 10G and I’m just not sure which one I should do this time.

If the smaller fish go into the 10G, then once the fry are 3 weeks old, I will swap them and put the fry in the 10G and the small fish back into the 29G to give the parents a break from raising babies and so they don’t get nipped.

If I put the wigglers into the 10G, I don’t expect a problem with space and growth stunting because there probably won’t be very many that will live long enough for that to be a problem. If I end up needing to, I could move them into the 40G sooner, like when they are dime-sized, but the angels in the 40G are very aggressive little guys and are growing fast. I don’t know how much they’ll have grown by the time I’d need to add this spawn to that tank and some are already the size of, if not bigger than, half dollars. I would prefer these ones to be as big as possible before putting them in there.

There is another option that I think would be good. If you don’t think anything else is good enough, I can make a divider for my tank and keep the parents and wigglers on one side and the rest of the fish on the other. It would be mesh so the fry could probably fit through the holes, but none of the other fish would be able to. The parents can raise them in peace without worrying about tetras or anything else trying to get the wigglers and the other fish will be safe from the protective parents. Then, once the fish are 3 weeks, I can move them into the 10G and take the divider out of the tank until next time. It’ll kind of be a hassle to take out and put in a divider every time though haha, but I’ll do it if it’ll be better for everyone. Should I do that instead? I know that keeping it a community tank will be difficult, but I’m willing to put in the work.

Thank you for everything, I really appreciate this!!!

HI Marley. I was much like you when my pair first breeded. Very excited and full of questions and what ifs but basically just wanting to make the right call. My advice is to just leave everything alone right now! Don't move anybody! IF the way you have it is working. If your parents are not creaming the other fish in the tank then don't mess with it. I did exactly what your suggesting with my first clutch. I moved the other members of community out and let the parents raise about 65 fry for a few weeks. I put the community back when I moved the babies and my angels proceeded to kill several of my tetras and demolish my corys fins. If they are not hurting your community and community is what your after then let it be. It works for Dave125g and so far as I can really tell, only him I had to find a new home for my community. And now several months later I just rehomed my mated pair because I just can't keep up with the babies and they are no longer suitable for community.
So I'd leave your tank alone and let nature take it's course unless of course nature has parents killing tank mates Basically don't fix it til it's broken. Fry are quite nutritious meals for everyone anyway lol

I agree with Liz if your bent on moving anyone then let it be the babies.

And I agree with Dave too. They do seem to have great potential as a mated pair for parenting. I personally don't want any more pairs in my community. Sheesh it was a long ordeal!

 

Thank you for everyone’s responses! I will keep the the wigglers in the tank because the parents are doing a good job of protecting them and then deal with problems if and when they show up. I really appreciate all of the help I’ve been given, thanks again!!

 

Thank you for everyone’s responses! I will keep the the wigglers in the tank because the parents are doing a good job of protecting them and then deal with problems if and when they show up. I really appreciate all of the help I’ve been given, thanks again!!

You're welcome and Good luck! Keep us posted!

 

Thank you for everyone’s responses! I will keep the the wigglers in the tank because the parents are doing a good job of protecting them and then deal with problems if and when they show up. I really appreciate all of the help I’ve been given, thanks again!!

I have a thread in breeding called my angelfish journey. I haven't updated it too recently but it has a lot of the early issues in it I think and how I dealt with it. Consider it a how not to lol. I'll try to find a link


Here it is
My Angelfish Journey
My Angelfish Journey

 

I have a thread in breeding called my angelfish journey. I haven't updated it too recently but it has a lot of the early issues in it I think and how I dealt with it. Consider it a how not to lol. I'll try to find a link


Here it is
My Angelfish Journey
My Angelfish Journey

You were blessed with a pair that knew what to do first time out. I wasn't very successful breeding in a community. Now that the diamonds figured out how to steel the angel eggs I don't see any success for the forseeable future. Lol I'm enjoying breeding my tetras now anyhow.

 

Does anyone know which one I should do? Putting my tetras, catfish, and otos in the 10G would only be temporary because I want to keep my community tank the same. There is already a breeder tank in my home that my mother has, so I’d rather keep my community fish as pets.

Why not put the angels in the breeder. Let them spawn in there and move them back to the community. That way the fry don't have to be moved and can grow out until there ready to be rehomed.I agree with bizaliz3 your 29 is overstocked. It can get real ugly with a breeding pair.

 

You were blessed with a pair that knew what to do first time out. I wasn't very successful breeding in a community. Now that the diamonds figured out how to steel the angel eggs I don't see any success for the forseeable future. Lol I'm enjoying breeding my tetras now anyhow.

You have the best of both worlds Dave

 

Update: Last night the wigglers were moved from the corner on the ground to the side glass of the tank! Most were sticking, but some weren’t. This morning I couldn’t find any that weren’t sticking, but there seemed to be less on the glass. I will check again when I get home later today. Is there a reason some wouldn’t stick? Were they unhealthy?

 

Why not put the angels in the breeder. Let them spawn in there and move them back to the community. That way the fry don't have to be moved and can grow out until there ready to be rehomed.I agree with bizaliz3 your 29 is overstocked. It can get real ugly with a breeding pair.

My angels are no longer being aggresive toward the tetras and when they were before, they were on being chased when too close to the babies and not hurt.
It’s much more peaceful so I’ll stay hopeful and let it be.

 

Another solution is to go to a store and buy a big plastic bin. Use it for a baby grow out tank. I worked at a tropical fish warehouse years ago and that's what they did with the babies. They also used smaller bins for breeding tanks for some fish. As long as water quality is kept up and the right temperature and a good light source all should be well.
You can't see the babies as well in the plastic bins but they are a great cheap alternative if needed.

 

That's good. If there not sticking they may be free swimming fry now. My skirt tetras learned really fast to avoid the angels too. My diamond tetras, unfortunately, learned how to safely steal angel eggs.
The fry are tiny and translucent. They may me hiding between the tiny gravel substrate you have, or in the plants.

 

I agree with Dave125g for the future... I would move the pair of angels to the other tank permanently before they lay again and after you have dealt with this batch, and bring the solo angel back to this tank... leave this a peaceful community (as peaceful as it gets with an angel lol).

 

Another solution is to go to a store and buy a big plastic bin. Use it for a baby grow out tank. I worked at a tropical fish warehouse years ago and that's what they did with the babies. They also used smaller bins for breeding tanks for some fish. As long as water quality is kept up and the right temperature and a good light source all should be well.
You can't see the babies as well in the plastic bins but they are a great cheap alternative if needed.

I have a few extra tanks lying around, so I wouldn’t need to go to that extent. I also have cats, so open buckets wouldn’t work out very well haha. Thank you!

 

That's good. If there not sticking they may be free swimming fry now. My skirt tetras learned really fast to avoid the angels too. My diamond tetras, unfortunately, learned how to safely steal angel eggs.
The fry are tiny and translucent. They may me hiding between the tiny gravel substrate you have, or in the plants.

All of the substrate in that area of the tank was removed because I have big rocks in my tank that would make it so the parents couldn’t retrieve them if they fell through the cracks. I can see the fry just fine, I was just worrying about if they were dying or not. Thank you, I’m glad to know they aren’t!

 

All of the substrate in that area of the tank was removed because I have big rocks in my tank that would make it so the parents couldn’t retrieve them if they fell through the cracks. I can see the fry just fine, I was just worrying about if they were dying or not. Thank you, I’m glad to know they aren’t!

I just checked on the fry and all of the live ones are on the glass now. There are a few on the ground, but they must be dead because they are not wiggling. There are 19 on the glass and there were more on it yesterday, so I think more of them fell and were eaten. Unless they were moved by the parents somewhere else, but I doubt the parents would purposely split the fry up that much.

 

I just checked on the fry and all of the live ones are on the glass now. There are a few on the ground, but they must be dead because they are not wiggling. There are 19 on the glass and there were more on it yesterday, so I think more of them fell and were eaten. Unless they were moved by the parents somewhere else, but I doubt the parents would purposely split the fry up that much.

Some of my wigglers don't wiggle, unless spooked by a light or something. They may be alive. They could just be comfortable. The next few days you'll know. I'm glad you have quite a few still surviving.

 

Some of my wigglers don't wiggle, unless spooked by a light or something. They may be alive. They could just be comfortable. The next few days you'll know. I'm glad you have quite a few still surviving.

That’s great to know, thank you!