Angelfish laying on bottom not swimming but still breathing

AnemAllen
  • #1
I just got home and my girl told me about an hour ago the fish stop swimming and just went to the bottom I’m looking at it and he still alive and breathing and moving his friends and everything only thing is he’s not actually swimming around the water is it 74° and I Have a cheater and the container is in but we had to put them in the container to change the water because the water was super murky white some form of white algae that isn’t really algae but she just did the water change and he was good for a little bit but now he’s just laying on the bottom of the tank I push them over on his stomach so he can lay on his stomach but I don’t know what else to do
I just got home and my girl told me about an hour ago the fish stop swimming and just went to the bottom I’m looking at it and he still alive and breathing and moving his friends and everything only thing is he’s not actually swimming around the water is it 74° and I Have a cheater and the container is in but we had to put them in the container to change the water because the water was super murky white some form of white algae that isn’t really algae but she just did the water change and he was good for a little bit but now he’s just laying on the bottom of the tank I push them over on his stomach so he can lay on his stomach but I don’t know what else to do
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP BEFORE ITS TOO LATE
 
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dlevesque1
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Did you do a water test? Did you dechlorinate the water? What steps have you taken besides a water change? Is your tank fully cycled?
 
WagglePets
  • #3
You said container? During the water change did you put him in a temporary container and also about how much water did you change and did you use water conditioner I know that’s a silly question but we sometimes can forget I did once
Did you do a water test? Did you dechlorinate the water? What steps have you taken besides a water change? Is your tank fully cycled?
Sorry I didn’t see your post I just asked all these questions basically lol
 
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AnemAllen
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  • #4
Did you do a water test? Did you dechlorinate the water? What steps have you taken besides a water change? Is your tank fully cycled?
Well we ran out of test strips Plus when I did used to test strips to test the water all the results came back the same whether I used bottled water, sink water, or sink water is set for 20 hours. But honestly I just let the sink water sit for over 24 hours so that way everything in the water would be gone in safe for freshwater fish because that’s what I read please correct me if I’m wrong. And I’m not 100% sure if my girl dechlorinated the water before putting them in the new water also I don’t know what you mean by is your tank “fully cycled”? I’m new to this fish game first fish I’ve personally ever took care of
 
dlevesque1
  • #5
Well we ran out of test strips Plus when I did used to test strips to test the water all the results came back the same whether I used bottled water, sink water, or sink water is set for 20 hours. But honestly I just let the sink water sit for over 24 hours so that way everything in the water would be gone in safe for freshwater fish because that’s what I read please correct me if I’m wrong. And I’m not 100% sure if my girl dechlorinated the water before putting them in the new water also I don’t know what you mean by is your tank “fully cycled”? I’m new to this fish game first fish I’ve personally ever took care of
Okay, your fish are probably suffering from Ammonia poisoning if you are not familiar with the nitrogen cycle. Also, go to the pet store and buy a master test kit. I am not a fan of test stripes. Also letting the water sit out doesn't remove chlorine to my knowledge. basically when your fish poop when the poop decomposes it creates ammonia which is toxic to fish. With a nitrogen cycle, beneficial bacteria will convert the ammonia to nitrite which is also highly toxic. That bacteria will then turn the nitrites into nitrates which isnt toxic in low amounts. I would look into how to establish the cycle in your tank. This is also why the fog is happening that is a bacteria bloom. I usually use Seachem products. API Stability for putting in the beneficial bacteria to start the cycle. I also you seachem prime for the declorinator.

If I am not correct someone feel free to correct me.
 
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AnemAllen
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You said container? During the water change did you put him in a temporary container and also about how much water did you change and did you use water conditioner I know that’s a silly question but we sometimes can forget I did once

Sorry I didn’t see your post I just asked all these questions basically lol
Okay, your fish are probably suffering from Ammonia poisoning if you are not familiar with the nitrogen cycle. Also, go to the pet store and buy a master test kit. I am not a fan of test stripes. Also letting the water sit out doesn't remove chlorine to my knowledge. basically when your fish poop when the poop decomposes it creates ammonia which is toxic to fish. With a nitrogen cycle, beneficial bacteria will convert the ammonia to nitrite which is also highly toxic. That bacteria will then turn the nitrites into nitrates which isnt toxic in low amounts. I would look into how to establish the cycle in your tank. This is also why the fog is happening that is a bacteria bloom. I usually use Seachem products. API Stability for putting in the beneficial bacteria to start the cycle. I also you seachem prime for the declorinator.

If I am not correct someone feel free to correct me.
I have three other fish in the tank and they’re all OK just the angel fish apparently what my girl is telling me is the fish was totally fine up until the tank got too cold but I will definitely use some test strips to see if the water is toxic for them also we have a 50 gallon tankWith a filter and bubbles
 
dlevesque1
  • #7
I have three other fish in the tank and they’re all OK just the angel fish apparently what my girl is telling me is the fish was totally fine up until the tank got too cold but I will definitely use some test strips to see if the water is toxic for them also we have a 50 gallon tankWith a filter and bubbles
Definitely look into getting the nitrogen cycle started. If you want to get more information than what I wrote above there is a ton of material online about it. This is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL when taking care of fish. When your fish are suffering from ammonia poisoning when they breathe the water burns their gills and they are unable to breathe.
 
Dunk2
  • #8
I have three other fish in the tank and they’re all OK just the angel fish apparently what my girl is telling me is the fish was totally fine up until the tank got too cold but I will definitely use some test strips to see if the water is toxic for them also we have a 50 gallon tankWith a filter and bubbles
How long has this tank been running? I’d guess not, but did you use any filter media from your 50 gallon tank in the filter of this tank? Or was everything about the tank “brand new”?
 
AnemAllen
  • Thread Starter
  • #9
Definitely look into getting the nitrogen cycle started. If you want to get more information than what I wrote above there is a ton of material online about it. This is ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL when taking care of fish. When your fish are suffering from ammonia poisoning when they breathe the water burns their gills and they are unable to breathe.
Ok I got you thank you last question how long do I have until it’s too late?ima do way more research on it I’m just curious if you know off the top of your head
 
dlevesque1
  • #10
Ok I got you thank you last question how long do I have until it’s too late?ima do way more research on it I’m just curious if you know off the top of your head
If the fish isn't doing well at the moment, it's possible you can save it. Without exactly knowing what is in the water and if the water is dechlorinated it's hard to say. Could be a couple of hours could be a few days I'm not really sure, to be honest. Not sure where you live but if a pet store is open at the moment at least at the minimum go to the store and buy some dechlorinator and put the fish in a temp tank with heated water. That's just what I would do.
 
AnemAllen
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  • #11
How long has this tank been running? I’d guess not, but did you use any filter media from your 50 gallon tank in the filter of this tank? Or was everything about the tank “brand new”?
I use the same stuff that I use for the actual tank only thing I used that was new was the water that I allowed to sit for more than 24 hours
If the fish isn't doing well at the moment, it's possible you can save it. Without exactly knowing what is in the water and if the water is dechlorinated it's hard to say. Could be a couple of hours could be a few days I'm not really sure, to be honest. Not sure where you live but if a pet store is open at the moment at least at the minimum go to the store and buy some dechlorinator and put the fish in a temp tank with heated water. That's just what I would do.
Unfortunately man I get off at 7 o’clock by the time I get back home it was already 8:30-9pm I didn’t know anything was happening until I got home. The fish store closes by then so I have to wait until tomorrow to even order something for her
 
Noroomforshoe
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Welcome to the hobby!
Please dont take these comments as mean or rude, we all start from the beginning.

In a wide open bucket/container, chlorine in tap water can evaporate in 24-48 hours depending on how much water and how deep the bucket is. If your town uses chloramines in the tap water as many now do, this will never evaporate and it is bad for the fish.
You need to add water that is the same temperature as the water in the tank, or fish can suffer temperature shock. so letting water sit out for a tropical tank only works if the room is the same temp as the tank.

I am unclear on your answers to all the comments above, so just to cover some bases,
It is never ideal to remove a fish from the tank just to clean the tank.
Use a gravel vacuum to change 35-55% of the water once a week, add a dechlorinatore.
Prime is highly recommended, amquel ultra is another great option.
Test strips are unreliable, I would and have tossed them in the trash in the past. Liquid test kits are the only way to go, Salifert are easier to use and read, IMOP, then the more comman API TEST KITS.
Fishlore has a great page on aquarium cycling.
Aquarium Nitrogen Cycle

Can you please fill out the emergency template so we can help you better? and your aquarium info if you get a chance.

can you please
 
Dunk2
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I use the same stuff that I use for the actual tank only thing I used that was new was the water that I allowed to sit for more than 24 hours

Unfortunately man I get off at 7 o’clock by the time I get back home it was already 8:30-9pm I didn’t know anything was happening until I got home. The fish store closes by then so I have to wait until tomorrow to even order something for her
Maybe I’m confused. . . How many tanks do you have and how long have they been running with fish in them?

If you let the water sit for 24 hours, any chlorine should have dissipated.
 
Kzza
  • #14
What other fish are in the tank? How big is the tank? You said it was too cold, if It's too cold that might be a reason why your fish is on the bottom. Raise the temp up slowly a little more each day. Like others mentioned you don't have to take your fish out when your doing a water change. How often do you change the water? How much do you change?
 
A201
  • #15
It's quite apparent that the OP's tank is a new setup w/ unstable parameters. Probably experiencing an bacterial bloom w/ fungus covered substrate.
If the OP is still interested, plenty of tank cycling advice available posted on FL.
 

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