Angelfish disease?

So about 3 weeks ago I got a blue zebra angel and he was tiny. Was doing fine for a few days and randomly he was dead one day. I had 2 other juvenile angels but one was double his size and the other was about 3x as big. None of them were picking on him. I have dwarf neon rainbows, rummy nose tetras, kribensis, and ebjd as a grow out in that tank. Nothing attacked this fish. Ebjd has been fine and never had any aggression with these fish. Fast forward about 2 weeks and my 2 angels had very bad ich. I’m talking covering their bodies. This came after my bigger angel was lethargic and didn’t eat for 3 days. It recovered but obviously wasn’t happy as it had bad bad bad ich. So the black one who I’ve had for 4 months now and who is my favorite fish I have, died yesterday. This made me really sad and I’m going to bury him outside. The first thing I did was test the water and 0 ammonia and nitrites and 10-20 nitrates. I’m still sad but today my other angel was looking lethargic. He ended up dying. Could that blue zebra angel have passed something to my others? It has to be some sort of angelfish disease as I have way for fragile fish in that tank who are going great. My thought is that the blue angel gave my other 2 a disease. I went to the store and they had 20+ of these angels. I went less than an hour before closing. They were opened for the whole next day. I called on the next day they were opened and they didn’t have any left? A little suspicious as they “sold” 20+ of them and my angel died. I think it was a bad batch and they had some sort of disease. I’m furious. My favorite fish died and 2 other beautiful angles died. I’m mad at myself bc I should’ve quarantined but I’ve never had trouble with angels and this store is well known.

 

So about 3 weeks ago I got a blue zebra angel and he was tiny. Was doing fine for a few days and randomly he was dead one day. I had 2 other juvenile angels but one was double his size and the other was about 3x as big. None of them were picking on him. I have dwarf neon rainbows, rummy nose tetras, kribensis, and ebjd as a grow out in that tank. Nothing attacked this fish. Ebjd has been fine and never had any aggression with these fish. Fast forward about 2 weeks and my 2 angels had very bad ich. I’m talking covering their bodies. This came after my bigger angel was lethargic and didn’t eat for 3 days. It recovered but obviously wasn’t happy as it had bad bad bad ich. So the black one who I’ve had for 4 months now and who is my favorite fish I have, died yesterday. This made me really sad and I’m going to bury him outside. The first thing I did was test the water and 0 ammonia and nitrites and 10-20 nitrates. I’m still sad but today my other angel was looking lethargic. He ended up dying. Could that blue zebra angel have passed something to my others? It has to be some sort of angelfish disease as I have way for fragile fish in that tank who are going great. My thought is that the blue angel gave my other 2 a disease. I went to the store and they had 20+ of these angels. I went less than an hour before closing. They were opened for the whole next day. I called on the next day they were opened and they didn’t have any left? A little suspicious as they “sold” 20+ of them and my angel died. I think it was a bad batch and they had some sort of disease. I’m furious. My favorite fish died and 2 other beautiful angles died. I’m mad at myself bc I should’ve quarantined but I’ve never had trouble with angels and this store is well known.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter how well known or well respected a store is. They will get sick fish from vendors at times. Its unavoidable. And frequently the tanks at stores are cross contaminated. Whether it be shared water system, or shared nets or whatever.

QT should never ever be skipped. And you have learned that lesson the hard way unfortunately. But don't beat yourself up!! Many of us don't take QT seriously until something very bad happens. Myself included. But after my bad experience years ago, I have strict long QT periods. My fish are too valuable to me to risk anything. Im sure you will never skip it again either after losing favorite fish.

The symptoms you describe sound like nothing unique to angelfish or cichlids in general. So i think you might have just been lucky that the other fish are doing OK.

Hopefully no more losses. Im sorry this happened.

 

Unfortunately it doesn't matter how well known or well respected a store is. They will get sick fish from vendors at times. Its unavoidable. And frequently the tanks at stores are cross contaminated. Whether it be shared water system, or shared nets or whatever.

QT should never ever be skipped. And you have learned that lesson the hard way unfortunately. But don't beat yourself up!! Many of us don't take QT seriously until something very bad happens. Myself included. But after my bad experience years ago, I have strict long QT periods. My fish are too valuable to me to risk anything. Im sure you will never skip it again either after losing favorite fish.

The symptoms you describe sound like nothing unique to angelfish or cichlids in general. So i think you might have just been lucky that the other fish are doing OK.

Hopefully no more losses. Im sorry this happened.

Ok. You think it’s just a coincidence then?

 

Ok. You think it’s just a coincidence then?

Well...kind of...yes. Things like ich are not unique to angelfish. So the fact thst it was limited to the angels is odd.

I've heard of an infamous angelfish virus that wiped out many angels in the hobby decades ago. But the symptoms you describe don't match that. Some people even referred to it as "angelfish aids". But I do not believe that is the case here at all.

 

Well...kind of...yes. Things like ich are not unique to angelfish. So the fact thst it was limited to the angels is odd.

I've heard of an infamous angelfish virus that wiped out many angels in the hobby decades ago. But the symptoms you describe don't match that. Some people even referred to it as "angelfish aids". But I do not believe that is the case here at all.

Ok well thanks for the help. I just don’t know how the angels have died but are the hardiest fish in that tank??

 

Ok well thanks for the help. I just don’t know how the angels have died but are the hardiest fish in that tank??

You are assuming they were the hardiest. And typically yes....i would consider angels hardier than your other fish. But there are a lot of poorly bred angels out there. Lots of irresponsible breeding out there. So they arent always as hardy as they should be. Especially the fancier strains.

 

You are assuming they were the hardiest. And typically yes....i would consider angels hardier than your other fish. But there are a lot of poorly bred angels out there. Lots of irresponsible breeding out there. So they arent always as hardy as they should be. Especially the fancier strains.

No I mean the two I’ve had for months now. Tbh I could care less ab the blue zebra. I’m just poed about my one that I had for 4 months and was my favorite fish