An Unlikely Ghost Shrimp Problem

toeknee

Member
Hello all. I have a heavily planted 20 long with 8 peppered corys, 7 harlequin rasboras and a dwarf gourmai. I like a "simple" looking tank. Meaning I focused heavily on aquascaping first and foremost, then added fish to compliment the tank. I decided to add 4 ghost shrimp not long ago, just for a little something extra to add interest and as a clean up crew. I chose ghost shrimp because I heard it's pretty difficult to successfully raise baby ghosts as I don't want a big shrimp colony. With all the fish in my tank, 3 h.o.b. filters with no mesh blocking babies from getting sucked up I figured I wouldn't have to deal with a ghost population explosion. unfortunately that's not the case, I just counted around 16-18 full grown ghostys, and countless little little ones. It's cool and all.....but they kind of clutter the look of my tank as I like a more simple looking tank. They are not afraid of anything and constantly zipping all over. Almost remind me of mosquitos zinging around.....I don't want to kill them. Nor do I want so many in my tank.....any advice on what to do with them or how to slow down breeding? I know it's a long shot at a feasible answer but figured I'd ask.
 

maggie thecat

Member
That's a heck of a problem. Maybe your local lfs will take them in trade. Barring that, if you have 50 posts, you could list them on the swap board.
 

Dila415

Member
Can we see pictures? ghosts need brackish waters to spawn.. highly doubt you have ghost shrimp.
 
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toeknee

Member
Here's a few of them roaming around now, tough to get clear pics with the cell phone.
 

david1978

Member
that would be amano shrimp not ghosts.
Dila415 said:
Can we see pictures? ghosts need brackish waters to spawn.. highly doubt you have ghost shrimp.
 
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toeknee

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Sarah73

Member
Yeah, ghost shrimplets can survive in fresh water. Now they are surviving because your tank is so plant densed.
 

75g Discus Tank

Member
It isn't too much of a problem IMO.

They are a good cleanup crew and don't have that much of a bioload.
 

tjander

Member
Dila415 and david1978. Folks not an attack, but just wanted to point out that ghost shrimp do not need brackish water to spawn they will do so in freshwater. Amano shrimp need saltwater for the Zoe’s to survive until they move back into fresh water, but Amano shrimp do give birth in freshwater. Ghost shrimp need an algae rich environment for the larva to eat most of us do not have enough micro algae in the water for them to live on or enough hiding places.
Just wanted to set the record straight, again not an attack.
@OP the shrimp you have are in my opinion Ghost shrimp, this is very rare in my experience, congrats . Now that said, be carful because they can get aggressive and my go after other things in your tank.
 

Dila415

Member
tjander said:
Dila415 and david1978. Folks not an attack, but just wanted to point out that ghost shrimp do not need brackish water to spawn they will do so in freshwater. Amano shrimp need saltwater for the Zoe’s to survive until they move back into fresh water, but Amano shrimp do give birth in freshwater. Ghost shrimp need an algae rich environment for the larva to eat most of us do not have enough micro algae in the water for them to live on or enough hiding places.
Just wanted to set the record straight, again not an attack.
@OP the shrimp you have are in my opinion Ghost shrimp, this is very rare in my experience, congrats . Now that said, be carful because they can get aggressive and my go after other things in your tank.
Oops my mistake I was confused thanks
 
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toeknee

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tjander said:
Dila415 and david1978. Folks not an attack, but just wanted to point out that ghost shrimp do not need brackish water to spawn they will do so in freshwater. Amano shrimp need saltwater for the Zoe’s to survive until they move back into fresh water, but Amano shrimp do give birth in freshwater. Ghost shrimp need an algae rich environment for the larva to eat most of us do not have enough micro algae in the water for them to live on or enough hiding places.
Just wanted to set the record straight, again not an attack.
@OP the shrimp you have are in my opinion Ghost shrimp, this is very rare in my experience, congrats . Now that said, be carful because they can get aggressive and my go after other things in your tank.
Thanks, I have noticed that since the ghost population has increase my cory's which are usually out and about quite a bit have been hiding much more and I've been wondering if the ghosts are pestering them. the ghosties are definitely not shy they will barge their way into a shrimp pellet the corys are feasting on. I have a 10 gallon hospital tank I think I'll start putting ghosts in and then posting them here in the swap section for people to have for free if they pay shipping. It's cool they're breeding and all but I'd rather have only 5-6 or so in my main tank. Thanks everyone for the responses.
 

Mcasella

Member
toeknee said:
Thanks, I have noticed that since the ghost population has increase my cory's which are usually out and about quite a bit have been hiding much more and I've been wondering if the ghosts are pestering them. the ghosties are definitely not shy they will barge their way into a shrimp pellet the corys are feasting on. I have a 10 gallon hospital tank I think I'll start putting ghosts in and then posting them here in the swap section for people to have for free if they pay shipping. It's cool they're breeding and all but I'd rather have only 5-6 or so in my main tank. Thanks everyone for the responses.
Sounds like the best plan, they won't mind a smaller tank and if it isn't heavily planted you likely will only have to pull the out of the bigger tank when you see them. But yes ghosts are very bold, so they may be frightening the cories.
 

Dakotablue

Member
There are also some fish that will eat baby shrimp, if you wanted to go more of a "circle of life" route or switch to a neo variety that are less aggressive.

Swapping/selling/donating would probably be the best route though.
 

Sarah73

Member
Dakotablue said:
There are also some fish that will eat baby shrimp, if you wanted to go more of a "circle of life" route or switch to a neo variety that are less aggressive.

Swapping/selling/donating would probably be the best route though.
Not just some. All fish find shrimplets a tasty snack. Here's a momma
 

Ms rose

Member
wow! they are so cool looking! I really like the ghosts, but my lfs doesn't sell shrimp, so I usually have to buy online, so keep me in mind thanx. ps beautiful tank, so green lol
 

Sarah73

Member
Ms rose said:
wow! they are so cool looking! I really like the ghosts, but my lfs doesn't sell shrimp, so I usually have to buy online, so keep me in mind thanx. ps beautiful tank, so green lol
Talking to me? Or?
 

Ms rose

Member
I was talking to op, he mentioned possibly selling some in the furure,
 

Vishaquatics

Member
Congrats on your baby shrimp!

These appear to me to be ghost shrimp, but beware, they can be really aggressive. I used to have a 5 gallon fry tank about 6 years ago and I had one big, fat ghost shrimp in there. The thing was a 4 inch monster. It absolutely huge. Whenever I'd add fry to the tank, a few of them could be seen the next day, dead, with eyes and fins missing.

Desperate to come to a solution, I watched the tank for two hours one night. Lo and behold, my ghost shrimp would wait in a cave for an unsuspecting baby to swim by, then would lunge out lightning fast and would kill the baby with it's pinchers. After that, I returned that bad boy to the LFS. If your other fish are suffering, I would advise on lowering the ghostie population to just the small ones so that they can't hunt other fish.
 

Mcasella

Member
Koiman said:
Congrats on your baby shrimp!

These appear to me to be ghost shrimp, but beware, they can be really aggressive. I used to have a 5 gallon fry tank about 6 years ago and I had one big, fat ghost shrimp in there. The thing was a 4 inch monster. It absolutely huge. Whenever I'd add fry to the tank, a few of them could be seen the next day, dead, with eyes and fins missing.

Desperate to come to a solution, I watched the tank for two hours one night. Lo and behold, my ghost shrimp would wait in a cave for an unsuspecting baby to swim by, then would lunge out lightning fast and would kill the baby with it's pinchers. After that, I returned that bad boy to the LFS. If your other fish are suffering, I would advise on lowering the ghostie population to just the small ones so that they can't hunt other fish.
That was not a ghost shrimp then, they do not get that big (the common ones that are bred as feeders, other types might get that big but you likely had a whisker shrimp not a ghost). If they aren't getting food like any other animal they are going to try and get it another way, and little fish make a great snack for most of those animals.
 

Vishaquatics

Member
Mcasella said:
That was not a ghost shrimp then, they do not get that big (the common ones that are bred as feeders, other types might get that big but you likely had a whisker shrimp not a ghost). If they aren't getting food like any other animal they are going to try and get it another way, and little fish make a great snack for most of those animals.
Just looked up what a whisker shrimp was, that looks to be what I had. Both shrimp species look quite similar though.
 

Mcasella

Member
Koiman said:
Just looked up what a whisker shrimp was, that looks to be what I had. Both shrimp species look quite similar though.
Easiest way to tell is by the red dots on the tail and red rings on the legs (the front claws are the next thing, on whisker shrimp they will be as long as the body of the shrimp or long, while ghosts front claw are under the length of their body). Ghost will eat fish but they generally wait for them to either being so weak they can't swim away or already dead, while whisker (and amano) will attack healthy and sick fish without trouble, whisker will do it even if they are being fed, amano generally only do it when they aren't being fed the right things.
To have bred some of them means they are adapted to the water but also that they are stronger than most ghost shrimp from a pet store (since they are raised as feeders they don't get the best care, the ones that come into my local petco the water is normally yellow).
 

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