amquel+ and NovAqua+

I have got 20ppm nitrates in my tap water, and was advised towards a product called amquel+ if I wanted to lower this, I have just been doing some reasearch on it and found this descriptiuon below the this site CHARTERHOUSE AQUATICS:.
# AmQuel+ is a unique water conditioner providing actions needed for safe aquarium and pond keeping for fishes and invertebrates (snails, shrimp, coral reef animals, etc.) in fresh, brackish, and salt water
# AmQuel+ is nontoxic and saves on the need for as many water changes as would otherwise be required
# AmQuel+ removes 33 ppm (= 33 mg/L) of all chlorines including those chlorines in chloramines from the water
# AmQuel+ removes/detoxifies all of the kinds of toxic nitrogen compounds in the water
# AmQuel+ removes/detoxifies all forms of ammonia/ammonium/nitrites/nitrates from the water, including ammonia in chloramines
# AmQuel+ because of its stability and reliability reduces the need for water quality tests for chlorine, ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate
# AmQuel+ removes/detoxifies toxic pheromones from the water
# AmQuel+ does not affect the water's pH (acidity/basicity)
# AmQuel+ does not interfere with the beneficial nitrifying bacteria or their food sources
# AmQuel+ does not interfere with the beneficial sludge-removing bacteria or their food sources
# AmQuel+ is completely amine-free
# AmQuel+ is fully compatible with NovAqua+and is recommended for use together in aquarium and pond water keeping
# AmQuel+ is safe to use with other water conditioners and organic herbal fish medications
# AmQuel+ is not affected by filtration or activated carbon filters

it states that its fully compatible with novaqua+ and reccomended for use together in aquariums, can someone tell me what exactly the novaqua does, and why its reccomended to use both products together, and what will happen if I only decide to use just the amquel.
Can someone please also tell me the does as I can't seem to find it.

It also says " saves on the need for as many water changes as would otherwise be required" can anyone tell me if this is a true fact.
Thanks for reading

Pearl

Pearl

 

We do water changes, not only to decrease the nitrates but also to replenish oxygen and minerals that is in the fresh water.

No matter what products you use, it won't remove fish poo.
There is only one way to remove fish waste and left over food. That's by vacuuming the gravel. It's impossible to vacuum with out removing water.


There are a couple of good links and a chart in this sticky:
https://www.fishlore.com/aquariumfishforum/threads/different-water-conditoners-and-what-they-do.47458/

 

With high nitrates you might have to do several water changes per week, so when using Amquel+ you can get away with weekly water changes.

I use the NovAqua+ because it (like Stress Coat) is good for the fish's slime coat. Amquel+ does not have any slime coat enhancers in it.

I dose 10ml of Amquel+ per 5 gallons bucket of water.

 

Prime is good for the slime coat as well, this is what I use. For a whole bucket, I use about 8 drops. It seems more economical than AmQuel/NovAqua, but they are still fantastic products that come highly recommended, so whichever you can find, you're getting the best

jdhef, thanks for that extra info!

 

Good afternoon,

Here is a link that you may find helpful too.

I also use Amquel + and Nova Aqua +. I can highly recommend them.





Ken

 

Prime is good for the slime coat as well, this is what I use. For a whole bucket, I use about 8 drops. It seems more economical than AmQuel/NovAqua, but they are still fantastic products that come highly recommended, so whichever you can find, you're getting the best

jdhef, thanks for that extra info!

While a great product, Prime doesn't remove nitrates (or if it does, it doesn't remove an appreciable amount), that is why I switched from Prime to Amquel+. Pearl, like myself has nitrates in her tap water.

 

I think one of the most significant things I see about Novaqua+ is that it has a few different things in it that are supposed to help the fishes natural defenses.

Honestly, unless I was keeping some really really touchy fish, I wouldn't stress too much about having 20ppm in the tap. Having 20ppm as a starting point, and then doing WC's at the 40ppm mark shouldn't adversely affect most fish. Obviously you'd want to keep an eye on the fish and how they are acting but 20-40ppm nitrate is not really a big deal in most cases.

If I was dealing with just one or two tanks with this issue I might add several live plants to help with the nitrates, but otherwise don't stress on it too much.

 

The main problem with nitrates in the tap water is if your nitrates are at 40ppm and you do a 50% water change with water that contains 20ppm nitrates, your resultant water now has 30ppm nitrates.

Now this only gives you 10ppm until your next water change, which can have you up to two or 3 50% water changes a week.

 

Amquel+ and NovAqua+ are an excellent combination. It's one I've used and would not hesitate to recommend. I also love Prime.

Amquel+ does not remove heavy metals or contain a slime coat enhancer of any kind. NovAqua+ does remove heavy metals and provides a polymer colloid slime coating.

Regarding nitrates (and nitrites) and Amquel+ (and Prime) ... this link may be useful:

 

so would it be ok to use the amquel to help reduce my nitrates aswell as condition my water, but instead of using novaqua can I continue (if needed) to use my stress coat on injured fish?

 

I use Stress Coat in addition to my water conditioner if it is needed.

So I condition with Prime, but if someone needs it, I will dose it too.

I cannot comment on using it in place of NovAqua, but it can be used with conditioner, yes!

 

Prime & Amquel+ without NovAqua should be fine.

 

so will I not be able to use the amquel to contion the water and that product only? and if needs be if a fish needs it then I can add the stress coat? I'm just really trying to make use of products that I have already paid a dorrtune for rather than having to discard them lol so much blimmin money! lol

 

Hello Pearlypops,

I think you will be fine using the Amquel + and Stress Coat. Note that Amquel + does not remove heavy metals. Stress Coat does. So I suggest using both at water change time.

I've never heard anything bad about mixing the two.

It is suggested that Amquel + be used along with Nova Aqua +. Something to consider for the future.

Ken

 

HI Ken, thanks for the info about having to mix the two during water change, I never thought about the amquel+ not removing heavy metals, so if I decide to dI this, then would I be correct in adding the dose for stress coat, which is 5ml per 38litres of water, and with the amquel it says 5ml per 10 gallons, so I add both these dosages correct? also can ssomeone advise what exactly this means, I found it on the kordons website:
When treating the water, the total volume of water should be treated per dose, not just the amount of water added. ???
I will be adding 10litres of water per bucket to add to the tank, so can anyone tell me what does in ml's I will be adding to each bucket? (I take a total of 50litres out of my tank which is a 50% water change) thanks,

Pearl

 

Good morning,

Follow the directions on the bottle for dosage and you won't go wrong.

If you are adding water directly from your tap to your tank, then it is suggested that you treat for the entire tank.

If you age your water first or put the tap in a bucket before adding it to the tank, then you can simply add enough conditioner for the water in the bucket, added directly into the buck and not the tank.

You don't always have to treat the entire tank. It just depends on your method.

Hold on for more responses.


Ken

 

so adding these TWO different water conditioners won't "overdose" the tank....ill be adding two conditioners to do practically the same thing will this be ok? I'm not sure how to work out the amquel dose, if it says 5ml per 10gallons how will I work that out for a 10 litre bucket?
thanks

Pearl

 

Well Pearlypops, I use Amquel + and Nova Aqua +. Both remove chlorine and chloramines and other things. I haven't had any issues with overdosing. However, it's stated that these two should be used together.

Check the label on the Stress Coat. There should be some statement somewhere on it about mixing with other conditioners. Just to be on the safe side.

I don't feel that there would be any issues but it's always best to get more than 1 opinion.

1.5ml should do for a 10L bucket. Note too that I think it would really take a lot of water conditioner to overdose. Personally I'd up it to 2.5ml for a 10l bucket, I have a 2.5ml spoon . A little over kill but not too much\ in my opinion.

Ken

 

I agree with Ken's advice, I also use both.