Ammo Lock And Increased Ammonia Level?

AngelTheGypsy
  • #41
Ok, one issue may be cleaning your filter. Every time you rinse it in hot tap water you are killing what cycle you have. From now on, use old tank water to clean your filter.
Is that the only filter you are using? From what I can find it filters 260 gallons per hour. That has you under filtered by quite a bit. I suggest getting another filter to add to it. The general rule of thumb around here is you want 10x your tank volume per hour with an Hang in back, 5x with canisters. With a submersible, I would aI'm for 10x. You really want more surface area for your bacteria colony to live on.
I’m not sure how your ammonia is testing so high yet your fish are still good (definitely not a bad thing though). Do big water changes, try anything that might get that ammonia down. For now, try not to touch your filter. If it gets pretty grimy, swish the media in old tank water to get the funk off, but try not to disturb too much. I would get some bacterial supplement and squirt it straight into your filter media. When you do this, keep it wet but leave it off for 5-10 minutes;hopefully the bacteria will stick.
I would also get another filter. Any style is fine, but I would at least double your filtration capacity. Find either a hang on back filter that will do approx 300 gph or a canister that will do 150-200 gph. Really get that water moving and filtering. (I would do the same thing with the bacterial starter in this filter.) It’s also common for people to be under filtered. They label filters for bigger tanks than they should. I run 2 canister filters on my 75 gal, with a total gph of about 400.
Please keep us updated.
 
Ronoc94
  • Thread Starter
  • #42
Ok, one issue may be cleaning your filter. Every time you rinse it in hot tap water you are killing what cycle you have. From now on, use old tank water to clean your filter.
Is that the only filter you are using? From what I can find it filters 260 gallons per hour. That has you under filtered by quite a bit. I suggest getting another filter to add to it. The general rule of thumb around here is you want 10x your tank volume per hour with an Hang in back, 5x with canisters. With a submersible, I would aI'm for 10x. You really want more surface area for your bacteria colony to live on.
I’m not sure how your ammonia is testing so high yet your fish are still good (definitely not a bad thing though). Do big water changes, try anything that might get that ammonia down. For now, try not to touch your filter. If it gets pretty grimy, swish the media in old tank water to get the funk off, but try not to disturb too much. I would get some bacterial supplement and squirt it straight into your filter media. When you do this, keep it wet but leave it off for 5-10 minutes;hopefully the bacteria will stick.
I would also get another filter. Any style is fine, but I would at least double your filtration capacity. Find either a hang on back filter that will do approx 300 gph or a canister that will do 150-200 gph. Really get that water moving and filtering. (I would do the same thing with the bacterial starter in this filter.) It’s also common for people to be under filtered. They label filters for bigger tanks than they should. I run 2 canister filters on my 75 gal, with a total gph of about 400.
Please keep us updated.
So I just bought some aqueon water conditioner.

I'm just currious how much I should dose for a 60 gallon

As for another filter. Unfortunately I don't make a fortune so ill be holding off on another filter for awhile. Tbh id rather have just the 1 filter opposed to two smaller ones aswell.
 
finnipper59
  • #43
I believe with Aqueon, the instructions say 5ml per 10 gallons of water so you need 30ml of Aqueon. If you have the 16 oz bottle , it's 2 of the blue caps full. If you're using measuring spoons, it's 6 teaspoons.
So I just bought some aqueon water conditioner.

I'm just currious how much I should dose for a 60 gallon

As for another filter. Unfortunately I don't make a fortune so ill be holding off on another filter for awhile. Tbh id rather have just the 1 filter opposed to two smaller ones aswell.
 
Ronoc94
  • Thread Starter
  • #44
Just did a water test after useing aqueon once, and these are the results
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Dave125g
  • #45
Looks like your getting somewhere now. Ammonia looks like 0 nitrites are very high mabee 2. Can't tell on the nitrates though. Mabee 0?
 
Ronoc94
  • Thread Starter
  • #46
Looks like your getting somewhere now. Ammonia looks like 0 nitrites are very high mabee 2. Can't tell on the nitrates though. Mabee 0?
Nitrates are about 5
 
Dave125g
  • #47
Nitrates are about 5
Ok. Cycle is starting to move alone now. Happy to see those ammonia levels are out of the clouds. Lol
 
Ronoc94
  • Thread Starter
  • #48
Ok. Cycle is starting to move alone now. Happy to see those ammonia levels are out of the clouds. Lol
Same, I literally said yes out loud when I saw the results.

Would you recommend holding off on getting more fish? I wanted to get another 4 corys today and a few more tigerbarbs.
 
Dave125g
  • #49
Same, I literally said yes out loud when I saw the results.

Would you recommend holding off on getting more fish? I wanted to get another 4 corys today and a few more tigerbarbs.
Definitly would wait. Let the tank finish cycling first.
 
Ronoc94
  • Thread Starter
  • #50
Definitly would wait. Let the tank finish cycling first.
So its nearly been two weeks since the tank fully cycled. I got a small firemouth in there now along with the original stock.

I got two pieces of driftwood to add to the tank, theyve been in there with the firemouth for a week now, and I'm slightly concerned.

It looks as if theirs mold of some sort growing on the driftwood.

You guys have all been more than helpful and I'm just wondering if any of you guys have any ideas as towards what's causing this?
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finnipper59
  • #51
That happens to about 80% of all driftwood put in fish tanks. Its caused by a harmless cyanobacteria that only feeds on a specific chemical in the wood. The good news is that the wood only contains a certain amount of the chemical and cyanobacteria grow extremely fast. Before you know it, they will eat all of the chemical they need and die of starvation and go away. I thought I saw the word Ammolock on your post. If I did, don't use it. It does neutralize ammonia into a harmless form, but the way it does it, the bacteria that change ammonia into nitrites can't do it. Use either Aqueon water conditioner or Prime.
So its nearly been two weeks since the tank fully cycled. I got a small firemouth in there now along with the original stock.

I got two pieces of driftwood to add to the tank, theyve been in there with the firemouth for a week now, and I'm slightly concerned.

It looks as if theirs mold of some sort growing on the driftwood.

You guys have all been more than helpful and I'm just wondering if any of you guys have any ideas as towards what's causing this? View attachment 451822View attachment 451823
 
Dave125g
  • #52
Agree nothing to worry about it will go away in time.
 

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