All About Endler's Livebearers Care, Class And More!

All About Endler's Livebearers Care, Class And More!

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All About Endler's Livebearers Care, Class And More! - An Informative Guide to Keeping Endlers

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Endler's Livebearers

Endlers are extremely active fish and are tons of fun to watch. They were first discovered by Franklyn F. Bond but went unnoticed for 40 years until they were rediscovered by professor John Endler, hence the name "Endler's Livebearers". Now they are popular pets and are sold in pet stores in many places in the world. However, their natural breed in the wild is severely endangered or completely extinct...
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Please note that the Japanese blue "Endler" isn't an Endler at all. They're descended from fancy guppies that were set loose and reverted to the wild reticulata shape.
 
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endlercollector said:
Please note that the Japanese blue "Endler" isn't an Endler at all. They're descended from fancy guppies that were set loose and reverted to the wild reticulata shape.
Can I ask for a reference?

Japan Blue Endlers, while hybrids of fancy guppies and Endlers(making them K Class Endlers), are not completely guppy.
 

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Tidal Wave Crab said:
Can I ask for a reference?

Japan Blue Endlers, while hybrids of fancy guppies and Endlers(making them K Class Endlers), are not completely guppy.
We've had this discussion on Fishlore in the past. I believe it was 5 or 6 years ago.
 
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Perhaps I'm not understanding. The attached link on that thread is only talking about Japanese Blue Guppies, different from Japan Blue Endlers, which are never mentioned?

Thanks for helping me understand.
 

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Tidal Wave Crab said:
Perhaps I'm not understanding. The attached link on that thread is only talking about Japanese Blue Guppies, different from Japan Blue Endlers, which are never mentioned?

Thanks for helping me understand.
Japan blues are offcially guppies. But Adrian Hernandez had created a japan blue endler and those went also on the market. Like endlercollector has already mentioned, the original japan blues are guppies.
But the commercial trade has named all short tailed japan blue guppies endlers. As with so many short sized guppy strains, the commercial trade has named them incorrectly endlers instead of guppies beause of the endler hype around the world.
 
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Yes they are decendants of guppies, but they were crossbred,so they are endler guppy hybrids, meaning they are K class endlers, meaning they are still endlers.
 

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Tidal Wave Crab said:
Yes they are decendants of guppies, but they were crossbred,so they are endler guppy hybrids, meaning they are K class endlers, meaning they are still endlers.
Like I've mentioned before, Adrian Hernandez crossbred japan blue guppies with endlers and made a K-class strain which went on the market. Those are hybrid endlers. But there are still a lot of japan blue guppies (no endler influence, whether shorttailed or big tailed) on the market as well. And like I've mentioned, commerciallywise a lot of shortsized guppies are incorrectly called endlers or even endler hybrids to boost up the sales because of the endler hype.
But of course, nowadays a lot of people do crossbreed japan blue guppies with whatever kind of endler. That's absolutely true...

There's also this wildguppy called Lac du Rorota (fatigue) from French Guiana named after the region where it's been found. Probably a feral guppy. But this wildguppy looks also quite similar to the japan blue guppy.
 

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