African Dwarf Frogs With Fungal Infection

Gmamy2346
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Hello!
I recently adopted two African dwarf frogs and I noticed that one of them has a fungal infection around his mouth. I am currently treating the whole tank with the frog isolated in side the same tank system with aquarium salt and API fungal cure. What else can I do? I really want him to live and be with me for years to come.

Update. I have also tried applying diluted hydrogen peroxide to his mouth where the fungus is, I was careful not to get it in his eyes or mouth.
 
Gypsy13
  • #2
Hello. Welcome to fishlore.

Could you tell me your water parameters? How big is the tank? How long have you been using the fungal cure? How much salt are you using?
Heater, filter? When was your last water change?
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #3
Hello. Welcome to fishlore.

Could you tell me your water parameters? How big is the tank? How long have you been using the fungal cure? How much salt are you using?
Heater, filter? When was your last water change?
My tank is 5 gallons I have been using the fungal cure and 1 tbs of salt for 24 hours. I did a 50 percent water change last week. I don't use a heater since I live in the desert. I have a hang on the back filter. Sadly. He died this morning. About an hour ago. Is it contagious? Could the other tank mates still get it? What do I do now? Ahhhhhh
 
Gypsy13
  • #4
My tank is 5 gallons I have been using the fungal cure and 1 tbs of salt for 24 hours. I did a 50 percent water change last week. I don't use a heater since I live in the desert. I have a hang on the back filter. Sadly. He died this morning. About an hour ago. Is it contagious? Could the other tank mates still get it? What do I do now? Ahhhhhh

Oh no! I’m so sorry! Keep up the meds and salt. Remember to only add dissolved salt for the amount of water you’re replacing because salt doesn’t evaporate. So heartbreaking. Keep up with the water changes. If you notice anyone getting anything, jump in and tell us ok? And post pictures ok?
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #5
Oh no! I’m so sorry! Keep up the meds and salt. Remember to only add dissolved salt for the amount of water you’re replacing because salt doesn’t evaporate. So heartbreaking. Keep up with the water changes. If you notice anyone getting anything, jump in and tell us ok? And post pictures ok?
I will keep it up. Thank you so much ! Ill keep you guys updated. I'm really worrued because I just introduced the fish to the aquarium and he has been fine so far. I really don't want him to get sick.
 
Gypsy13
  • #6
I will keep it up. Thank you so much ! Ill keep you guys updated. I'm really worrued because I just introduced the fish to the aquarium and he has been fine so far. I really don't want him to get sick.

Super clean water, watching your parameters. Best medicine there is.
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #7
I had one of my 2 ADFs die from a fungus around the mouth. The treatment is still in the water along with some aquarium salt. The fish and the other frog do not seem to be sick. Should I continue treatment or clean the water? Should I add anything else besides what I normally use?. is a new tank. 2 weeks old only and is still cycling. 5 gallon planted freshwater tank. 1.0 ammonia, .5 nitrate. 0 nitrite.
 
Fanatic
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babiimoore
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Lucy
 
babiimoore
  • #9
do you know what kind of fungus it was? what did it look like?
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
It was white and cottony. it came on really fast and killed him really fast, within 48 hours. It trailed under his chin and around his eyes. I didn't get to take a picture of it
 
Lucy
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Welcome to FishLore! I'm really sorry about your frog.
If no one else in the tank is sick there isn't any reason to have medication in the tank.

It would be a really good idea to do a water change to get the ammonia down. ADF's don't do well in a cycling tank. Unlike fish they absorb toxins through their skin, a direct route to their organs.
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #12
Welcome to FishLore! I'm really sorry about your frog.
If no one else in the tank is sick there isn't any reason to have medication in the tank.

It would be a really good idea to do a water change to get the ammonia down. ADF's don't do well in a cycling tank. Unlike fish they absorb toxins through their skin, a direct route to their organs.
alright. I did a 75 percent water change to get the medicine out of the water.I changed the filter cartridge as well. I also ordered some of seachems ParaGuard just to have on hand. I am also thinking about putting in a half dosage when it gets here just to be safe and make sure there is nothing bad in the water. is this a good idea?
 
Lucy
  • #13
Imo, no. Some people treat their fish for parasites when they first get them but not with an ADF in the tank.

When you changed the filter cartridge did you throw the whole thing away? What type of filter do you have?
When cycling a tank the good bacteria grows mostly on the filter media. You'd want to hang on to that.
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
I changed the whole thing.........oops. I will check water quality later. Its a hang on the back filter. But it has the main cartridge and then a smaller mesh one that I didnt change at all that will still have beneficial bacteria on it.
 
bitseriously
  • #15
Sorry about your frog, how’s the second one doing?
What other fish/critters do you have in this tank?
The mesh thingy you kept will have some bb on it, and these will help ‘seed’ the new cartridge. But you’ve literally thrown away the majority of your new bb colony. Oh well. Most here blame the mfr of filters like yours for instructing folks to change the filter cartridges monthly. It’s a straight up cash grab, and has no bearing whatsoever on keeping healthy fish.
My advice for the future is to keep your cartridge until it’s literally falling apart, then find a way to squeeze two cartridges in the filter for a few weeks, which allows your bacteria to colonize the new filter before you throw out the old one. If it’s the type I’m thinking, you should remove the fabric part from the frame, empty out all the little charcoal bits, and what you’re left with is just the fabric which you can stuff into the filter with a new cartridge.
Getting back to your frog, I agree with what’s written above, that medicating in the absence of any symptoms wouldn’t be my first choice, in this case.
 
Gmamy2346
  • Thread Starter
  • #16
The other one is doing good. He ate well yesterday. The fish is a 4 inch long shiner thay I adopted from the hatchery where I work. And yes. The people that I got the filter from told me to change it monthly. Thank you . That is what I will do from now on . And I will restrain from medication. I am just so worried to lose another animal.
 
bitseriously
  • #17
I hear your concern about your pets dying, and I share it (for my own critters ).
Regarding medication, however, look at it this way: if you medicate without knowing exactly what you’re treating for, you may discover in the near future that the problem (assuming there is one) is something that is not treatable with the medication that you’ve used, and the actual required treatment may in fact be incompatible with what’s already in the water, complicating your next steps.
I think it’s better to wait and see, especially if everything looks good at this time.
 

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