African Dwarf Frog Gender?

should I also relocate the ghost shrimp? can he go into my bettas 15 gallon?

which one

 

get the second one, not the spray powder. good luck!

when you decide to get more frogs, do this treatment for 10 days as soon as you get them.

 

can I put my shrimp in my 15 gallon betta tank? also, I have some grass and a moss ball in the frogs tank, do I have to throw that away? it was pretty expensive

 

is this okay???

 

 

yep, that's the one I got. you may need to use more than 10 sprays since it's not the squirting type that's in the instructions.

unfortunately you'll have to get rid of the plants your shrimp will be okay. I don't think the betta will eat them but it's always a possibility. luckily they only cost about 25 cents (maybe more, depending on where you live or where you got them).

 

okay ill throw out the plants. I have two other shrimps in my bettas 15 gallon I just wanted to make sure he wouldnt spread the disease or anything.

 

I just got home and she was on her back, I immediately brought her up to the surface so she could breath if she needed to. I then put her into the solution and held her at the top incase she needed air. shes now in a container of fresh water and she doesn't move unless I put my hand under her, shes just floating there. I don't know if she’ll make it..

 

if she's on her back, it's not a good sign. i'm really sorry, but you might be too late. *hugs* you did what you could.

 

when I put my hand under her she wraps her arms around my fingers and looks up.

 

aww!! poor baby she's much more responsive than mine were. i'm so sorry. maybe there's still hope. it's good you were able to get the lamisil. I really hope she makes it!! it's so heart breaking. make sure she's comfortable.

is peeling the only physical sign of sickness she has?

 

yes, and shes a tiny bit pale. she only moves if I touch her.. its like its hard for her to move.. I don't know.

her behavior was never weird up until now either.. seemed like a happy frog

 

she has passed. ):

 

oh no, i'm so sorry ;; at least she's no longer suffering

 

my boyfriend could see how upset I was and he came home after work with three frogs and some gravel.. I wasn't expecting more frogs for awhile but here they are. they all look pretty healthy, one of them is sorta pale. I had thrown all my gravel, decorations and plants away last night and bleached the tank. should I give these new guys lamisil baths for the next 10 days? if they do have the disease, wouldnt the baths not even do anything because theyd go right back into the tank after?

 

also, they keep balling theirselves up. I never saw my other frogs do this. are they cold? their new heater will be here in 2 days but the temp in the tank says its 77, I don't really trust my PH pen thermometer tho.

 

ah man.... that kinda stinks lol. i'd personally return them and wait til you're ready (and pick out the frogs yourself from a good source), but now that you have them...

I think that's a possible sign of an illness, can't remember which one. it could possibly be chytrid. but yeah, you're going to have to keep bleaching the tank after every lamisil bath if you want to kill the fungus. it's recommended to have two quarantine tanks: put them in one, give em a bath, bleach the tank they were in, put them in the other tank, and repeat. it's a pain in the butt but it's effective. if those frogs come from the same place you got your others, then they're more than likely infected.

 

ah man.... that kinda stinks lol. i'd personally return them and wait til you're ready (and pick out the frogs yourself from a good source), but now that you have them...

I think that's a possible sign of an illness, can't remember which one. it could possibly be chytrid. but yeah, you're going to have to keep bleaching the tank after every lamisil bath if you want to kill the fungus. it's recommended to have two quarantine tanks: put them in one, give em a bath, bleach the tank they were in, put them in the other tank, and repeat. it's a pain in the butt but it's effective. if those frogs come from the same place you got your others, then they're more than likely infected.

seriously?.. I thought they were just cold. ugh.

 

I mean, it could be that! ..but my frog also did the same thing the day before she died, so.

 

I'm very sorry ):
I have two weeks to take them back so I think I'm just going to observe and see what happens.
they look to be pretty heathy. so did my other frogs tho.

 

it's okay! all of my frogs died from infections. it's very annoying and stressful, so I feel your pain.

I hope they make it!!

 

if I decide to treat, which I probably will, can all three go through the process together? bath together, clean tank together, repeat? it would be too hard to quarantine them from each other.

 

if I decide to treat, which I probably will, can all three go through the process together? bath together, clean tank together, repeat? it would be too hard to quarantine them from each other.

You can. That's fine. I used 2.5 gallon tanks for quarantine with a pvc plumbing tee for a hide. Very easy to rotate between for the quarantine / treatment period.

 

You can. That's fine. I used 2.5 gallon tanks for quarantine with a pvc plumbing tee for a hide. Very easy to rotate between for the quarantine / treatment period.

and ill only have to do this for 10 days?

 

and ill only have to do this for 10 days?

Yep. After ten days of treatment the new frogs can go into their new tank. Use the treatment time to cycle the new setup.

In case it wasn't obvious, the treatment tanks should be empty of all plants and other decor.

You should also get a roll of airline and some cheap airstones that can be discarded daily. Temperature match the water. If you need to use a heater, be sure to disinfect it. Better yet, use two, one for each tank. The idea is to not reinfect the frogs with any spores they may shed.

 

Yep. After ten days of treatment the new frogs can go into their new tank. Use the treatment time to cycle the new setup.

In case it wasn't obvious, the treatment tanks should be empty of all plants and other decor.

You should also get a roll of airline and some cheap airstones that can be discarded daily. Temperature match the water. If you need to use a heater, be sure to disinfect it. Better yet, use two, one for each tank. The idea is to not reinfect the frogs with any spores they may shed.

so its guaranteed to be gone in 10 days if I do everything correctly?
what temperature do they need to stay at, ive read a lot of different temps? ill only have 1 heater for them so that won't work for two different tanks, unless I could bleach it safely?. do they need the air pump since they breath from surface? I have one for each of my main tanks but I'm running kinda low on money.

 

There are no guarantees in life, but yes, if you follow the procedure, there is an excellent probability that you will have no further issues with chytrid fungus.

ADF have a pretty wide comfort range 72F to 82F. You may not need a heater.

You will need a small pump to aerate the tanks with. Discard the tubing and airstone that came in contact with the tank water as part of your daily cleanup. An aerated tank is a less stressful tank.

 

unfortunately one of the frogs started peeling. now am 100% sure they have it. they all just got their first bath. I can tell that the one whos peeling is awfully uncomfortable because he keeps doing a little shimmy. is there anything else I can do for him? should he have shed his skin in the bath because he didnt. I feel like I read somewhere that he should.

 

I don't understand how the pet store just continues to sell these poor guys. I'm sure they have a ton turn up dead at the store and have people come back after the purchase with the same news. wouldnt they do something about it!? I'm so angry

 

You can follow up the Lamisil with a Pedialyte bath. Use 1 part PLAIN Pedialyte to 10 parts dechlorinated water. Let the frog soak for no more than 2 hours. (Two hours is the MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF TIME.)

The Pedialyte will supply electrolytes and nutritional support . It may help the frog survive the onset of an active infection.

 

I heard some pet stores no longer carry adfs because they just keep dying. it wasn't worth it to keep them in stock anymore.

I managed to convince one of my petsmarts to change their adfs over to a bare bottom tank because they used to keep swallowing the gravel and dying. now i'm pretty sure the tank they keep them in is infected with either chytrid or something bacterial, maybe both. I always see dead frogs in the tanks at my local pet stores :/ it sucks. they're like "we try to keep on top of that" about fishing out the dead frogs, which means their deaths are common.

 

I just called the store I got them from because I'm so angry and they should do something about it or stop selling them and the lady had the nerve to say that shes never seen a pale or peeling frog in the tank and it mustve been something I did when they got home last night. is she crazy?!? I'm so upset.

 

****?? what a dork. they're not going to listen, so the best you can do is just not buy them.

 

is this what you mean by pedialyte? when I look it up all I find is drinks or flavored powder

 

The liquid. Available at an grocery or pharmacy in the infant care dept. For much less than $47.00.

 

I wasn't going to buy that, that listing is for 8 bottles. I just wanted to make sure its the right product.

 

I'm going to take a trip to grocery and pick some up, should I give him the bath in the pedialyte once I get it, or tomorrow after second treatment?

 

Tonight. It sounds like all the support you can give would be a good idea.

 

the frog that was peeling has passed.. ): I'm so upset because I thought he was feeling better, his color came back and I finally got him to eat earlier.. will continue to try to save the other two.

 

That's awful. But hang in there. And don't beat yourself up. Acute infections have dismal recovery rates.