African Dwarf Frog Fused to Side of Tank - HELP!

cheyennecody
  • #1
Hey guys!

First time poster. My female African Dwarf Frog is stuck back wall of my tank and it looks to be eggs that she's laid that she's stuck to??? I've tried nudging her with the net to break her free but she's really stuck. Worried about her being able to breathe as well.

Has anyone experienced this or know what I can do?

Please let me know!


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fish 321
  • #2
Is she moving? That is kind of odd and she also looks a little bloated.
 
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goldface
  • #3
Since they need to breathe air, I'd move her right away. Don't be shy. We can figure out what happened later.
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #4
She's moving and kicking occasionally. She's always been a bigger bloated frog haha. Any tips?
 
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kallililly1973
  • #5
Can u gently take a used gift card and try to very easily scrape between her n the glass?
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #6
How do I move her if she's fused? Don't want to break skin!
 
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kallililly1973
  • #7
I would be trying anything at this point honestly then keep the water pristine depending on the severity of her side when she’s removed
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #8
Can u gently take a used gift card and try to very easily scrape between her n the glass?
This is a good idea! Will try this now!
 
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PascalKrypt
  • #9
It looks dangerous bloated and as though it just swallowed something huge?
It is so swollen in fact I thought it was a Xenopus instead of a dwarf frog until I looked at the front swimmers... looks rather ominous.

As Scarface said, even if you have to use force, jam it free. If it doesn't get a gulp of air soon your frog will die.

Edit: Actually if there is nothing else in this tank, consider lowering the water level to just around the level of her back? That way she can breathe and you can have a closer look at how exactly she is stuck. Do it fast though.
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #10
Just tried the credit card trick and there was serious tearing when trying to remove her from the wall. This is the worst!
 
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Mochiiaki
  • #11
Just tried the credit card trick and there was serious tearing when trying to remove her from the wall. This is the worst!
Lower the water quickly she will drown
 
juniperlea
  • #12
How long has she been stuck? I did a quick search and read that they can stay fully submerged for about 20 minutes. But, if she's laying eggs, maybe this is normal? I think you are best not to do anything..... If you try something, you may do more harm than good. I really don't know, but as an ADF lover, I want to know......
 
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Mochiiaki
  • #13
She is obviously not going to come unstuck quickly so try to keep her alive by lowering the water fast then maybe try vegetable oil to work her free. She looks dead already in the picture....
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #14
Lowering the water now!
 
Mochiiaki
  • #15
please update I’m interesting into whether or not she’s alive, new picture?
 
juniperlea
  • #16
I'm on the edge of my seat.... really, I am. Hats off to MochiiakI re lowering water. I'm going to remember that. Why didn't I think of that?
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #17
Update! Lowered the water and removed her from the wall. SHE IS ALIVE! Looks like she was stuck in the filter stomach first hence the bloating. Picture attached (she's in a net) and she's in okay shape!

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juniperlea
  • #18
Phew! I feel so much better! I've been worrying about her! Hope she recovers well. Poor little thing! Pat yourself on the back!
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #19
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP! Seriously I called a bunch of pet stores, aquarium places, etc and no one knew what to do. Fingers crossed she's all better!
 
juniperlea
  • #20
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR HELP! Seriously I called a bunch of pet stores, aquarium places, etc and no one knew what to do. Fingers crossed she's all better!
I'd really like to know how she does over the next few days. I think this is an ADF lesson to learn.....
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #21
I'd really like to know how she does over the next few days. I think this is an ADF lesson to learn.....
Any tips to help with her bloating?
 
Butters510
  • #22
But how did she get stuck to the wall? Was she stuck in something? Tell us!!! I have to know!
 
cheyennecody
  • Thread Starter
  • #23
But how did she get stuck to the wall? Was she stuck in something? Tell us!!! I have to know!

Stuck in the filter stomach first!
 
juniperlea
  • #24
You mentioned that's she's always been a bit bloated. I'd look into that. I found two links....

Bloated Frog

I've read about salts not really being very good for frogs though. The second link is not an ADF, (I think?), but it doesn't really matter. Bloating isn't a good thing. It's edema and it's not good in humans either Let me know what you find out and what you do.......
 
PascalKrypt
  • #25
What do you feed your frog and how often?
 
juniperlea
  • #26
What do you feed your frog and how often?
I have 15 in a 20 gallon long. I know, it's a sin, because that's too many, especially when you add a male betta, some cories etc..... (going to move some of the ADFs to a 10 gallon that I'm cycling right now). Anyway, I used to feed them them the ZooMed aquatic frog and tadpole food. Then, I found out about New Life Spectrum Marine Fish Formula.

NLS first two ingredients: whole antarctic krill, whole fish.
ZooMed's first two ingredients: fish meal, soybean meal (whatever that is)

I also soak HikarI Food Sticks for a minute or so, squish them a bit and let them sink to the bottom. They're a huge hit, especially with the frogs!!! I feed the waterlogged Food Sticks in all my tanks because everyone seems to love them. I've also seen the frogs go after the HikarI carnivore wafers and the shrimp pellets.

In other words...... protein, protein, protein! I feed once a day, in the evening. It's the highlight of my day!!!
 
PascalKrypt
  • #27
I have 15 in a 20 gallon long. I know, it's a sin, because that's too many, especially when you add a male betta, some cories etc..... (going to move some of the ADFs to a 10 gallon that I'm cycling right now). Anyway, I used to feed them them the ZooMed aquatic frog and tadpole food. Then, I found out about New Life Spectrum Marine Fish Formula.

NLS first two ingredients: whole antarctic krill, whole fish.
ZooMed's first two ingredients: fish meal, soybean meal (whatever that is)

I also soak HikarI Food Sticks for a minute or so, squish them a bit and let them sink to the bottom. They're a huge hit, especially with the frogs!!! I feed the waterlogged Food Sticks in all my tanks because everyone seems to love them. I've also seen the frogs go after the HikarI carnivore wafers and the shrimp pellets.

In other words...... protein, protein, protein! I feed once a day, in the evening. It's the highlight of my day!!!
Personally I don't think 15 in a 20 is too many. Aquatic frogs have a completely different 'footprint' than fish.
Anyhow, feeding once a day is too much. Frogs should be fed every other day or three times a week, no more (one of the reasons why they are hard to keep with fish - frogs and cories are a terrible combo, bettas can work out though).

It is possible that this one frog is outcompeting the others and eating way and way too much. But to be honest this bloating is so extreme I wonder if it is just from feeding or if there is actually disease at play or maybe it swallowed something that is causing a near total blockage...

Do you have some pictures of your other frogs for comparison?
 
juniperlea
  • #28
Thanks PascalKrypt! I'm always hesitant to proclaim my aquarium sins and I thought 15 ADFs in 20 gallon (long) was a sin! I had read that they really don't need food daily. I get that cories with ADFs might spell disaster.

True confessions re this ADF tank: 15 ADFs, 4 cories (three different types!), two male guppies, two wcmm, one Sunburst platy, a male betta and a Trapdoor snail. So very, very many sins in this tank!!! They've been in there for about 2 or 3 months and the water is spot on. I did lose one ADF during that time. Otherwise, no one. This tank was specifically designed to house a betta and ADFs only. Something happened along the way.....
 
Trenzalore
  • #29
Can you see if it swallowed a rock? I had a large ACF that I got from a friend, I took all the pebbles and half-marbles out of her tank because she was eating them and it was making it hard for her to swim. Over the next year, she pooped out 4 marble halves (the ones that r round on top n flat on bottom) and a dozen or two little pebbles. Even the tiny ADFs like what you have like swallowing pebbles, they just have a rougher time pooping them out and it can take a while. Pebbles really aren't that great for these species.
 
Cherie G
  • #30
Wishing you the best for your poor little frog, please keep us posted as to what happens. Good luck!
 
Kjeldsen
  • #31
This is the craziest frog thread yet! I'm still unclear on what she was stuck to, though. To me it looked like a wall, so it's weird. If her skin is torn you may want to remove her to a hospital tank and treat with neosporin ointment, some epsom salt and portion-controlled feedings. Her bloat could also indicate a bacterial infection. Good luck.
 

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