adf feeding schedule

so after all of my brand new frozen brine shrimp cubes melted I decided to go and get my adfs more food. so here is what I got and I need help on how much to feed each week.
shrimp pellets
hbh frog pellets
frozen brine shrimp
frozen blood worms
also when I go on vacation would getting someone to feed then every other day with the frog pellets be ok?
thanks

 

Sorry, I don't see the ADFs included in your profile. So, I'm not sure how many ADFs you are feeding or whether they are housed in a single-species aquarium or not. But, a good rule of thumb regarding the amount to feed at any one time is to feed just enough so that the frog's stomach becomes slightly enlarged, but not bulging. An ADF's stomach is located in the lower, left region of it's belly. You'll notice this area bulges slightly after the frog has eaten. The frogs in the first two photos I've posted here have just finished eating and their stomachs are nicely rounded. But, the frog in the third photo has definitely eaten a few too many worms for his own good. Notice how his stomach is bulging and looks uncomfortably full (it's especially noticeable in his reflected by the tank's bottom). Typically, the amount of food per frog, per feeding, should equal approx. the volume of 3-5 bloodworms, or 2-4 brine shrimp or mysis shrimp, etc. But, obviously, the exact numbers will vary depending on the size and type of food you are using, the frequency of feeding, as well as the individual frog. I've noticed that females usually require a little more food than males, in order to maintain a healthy weight and good body condition. It's important to not overfeed, however, because some frogs will happily eat themselves to death, if given the opportunity, especially female ADFs. The best way to determine how much to feed, is to simply feed a set amount at each feeding and monitor the frog's weight over an extended period of time (i.e. several weeks). Then adjust the amount accordingly, depending on whether the frog appears to be gaining or losing weight.

HBH frog pellets are fine (even if the package is fresh and the pellets seem soft, it's always best to pre-moisten the pellets before feeding anyways, just to be on the safe side), but just be sure your frogs are actually eating them. Many ADFs will not eat these pellets. I know my frogs certainly won't. They don't even seem to recognize the pellets as being food, and if they do accidentally take them into their mouths, they spit them out immediately and continue foraging for something better. The other foods you have purchased are all good choices, except, perhaps, the shrimp pellets. I suspect these pellets are formulated for fish and are probably not suitable for frogs. But, if they are specifically formulated for aquatic frogs, they should be fine, as long as they are pre-moistened in a little tank water or dechlorinated water first. Be sure to cut all foods into bite-sized pieces, because ADFs can choke on foods that are too large for them to swallow. A frog should be able to swallow the food easily, in a single try, without having to use it's forelimbs to position the food in it's mouth. While things like bloodworms, whiteworms and glassworms can easily be swallowed whole, it's usually necessary to cut foods such as brine shrimp and mysis shrimp into slightly smaller pieces.

I frequently have to be away from home for several days, even a week at a time, and my neighbour cares for my fish and frogs while I'm away. Before leaving, I make several pre-measured frozen dinners for the frogs, wrap each in a piece of tin-foil, and leave them in the freezer for her to use. So, all she needs to do is thaw and rinse the contents, before feeding. This way, I'm certain that the frogs will get the proper amount and type of food they require, while I'm gone. If your frogs refuse to eat the HBH pellets, you could always prepare some frozen dinners for your frogs to eat, while you are on vacation. - frogbreeder

 

I have 2 frogs in a 5 gallon currently. they do have a tankmate. a male hardnerI killifish. he never bothers them. I will soon be upgrading the frogs to a 10 with the killI and adding 2 more frogs. I don't actually see them enough to tell if their bellies are full. I do see atleast one eat before lights off though.

 

I'd be worried that the fish will eat all of the food long before the frogs can even find it. ADFs aren't the best hunters, to say the least. Because they don't have the best eye-sight and their sense of smell isn't much better, it can sometimes take them a while to even detect the presence of food, let alone find it, especially non-living foods. I've noticed that they are much better able to locate live foods, such as whiteworms, probably because they are attracted to the movement. Really, ADFs are best kept in a single-species aquarium. Keeping them with fish creates several challenges which must be overcome for it to work in the long run and, in my experience, it usually ends badly for either the fish or frogs, depending on the circumstances. These are just a few reasons why it is usually recommended that fish and frogs not be kept in the same aquarium:


- Fish and frogs prefer different water conditions: frogs prefer still, shallow water, with very minimal filtration, whereas fish require deeper water with more filtration.

- Aeration is recommended for fish, but not for frogs.

- The fish may injure the frogs, or visa versa. Even small fish might nip at a frog and injure its skin, resulting in infection and even death. Bettas are not a good choice because they are often aggressive with their tankmates, and the frog might nip at the betta’s finnage and damage it. Frogs will perceive most large fish as predators and spend much of their time hiding; they will perceive small fish as prey. Frogs are less likely to exhibit normal behaviour or mate, if they are kept with fish. ADFs behave very differently, when kept in an aquarium of their own. They are very social with their own kind.

- As I've already mentioned, one of the most important reasons that frogs and fish should not be housed together is that the frogs usually end up starving to death, while the fish end up getting fat. Frogs are very slow eaters sometimes and can take a while to find the food. Usually, by the time the frogs detect the presence of food, the fish have already eaten it. Also, fish and frogs require different diets. Frogs should never be allowed to eat flake foods or pelleted foods intended for fish. Feeding such foods can cause digestive problems and result in death for frogs.

- Because frogs have highly absorbant skin, they are very sensitive to toxins in the water and fish waste is a great source of toxins, at least, until it is neutralized by the nitrogen cycle.

- All amphibians are best housed in a single-species aquarium in order to prevent the spread of infectious disease.

Fish and frogs are a bit like oil and water: they just don't mix very well. I'm not saying, however, that it's impossible to house fish and frogs together (certainly many people have done so successfully), but you will need to ensure the needs of both are met and that's not always easy to do. Even if your fish doesn't appear to bother the frogs, you will definitely need to ensure that your frogs are getting enough to eat. You could try hand-feeding them before lights out (I usually feed mine shortly after dinner). They become very accustomed to routine; consistency in feeding is very important (i.e. always feed at the same time and in the same manner). Personally, I think it would be best to leave the fish in the tank it's currently in and, when the time comes, upgrade the frogs to a larger tank and add more. (In fact, you could use the new tank to quarantine the new frogs.) I'm certain your frogs would really appreciate a tank to themselves, if possible. - frogbreeder

 

hmmm. I can't really move them until my baby cherry barb has grown big enough to be put in my 55. I have no idea if the killI would do well in my 55 or not. hmm.. I really can't get rid of the killI I grew him from a fry. I usually spot feed them with a syringe but I ran out of frozen so I had to feed the shrimp pellets and ive been feeding before lights out.

 

Well, as I said, some people have housed fish and frogs together successfully, but there's a lot to take into consideration. Housing them by themselves would definitely be a lot easier, but I realize that this isn't always possible. Besides, I must admit I have a bit of a soft spot for killifish myself. Just try to ensure the frogs are getting enough to eat. I wouldn't recommend feeding the frogs the shrimp pellets though, if they are intended for fish, because they could contain binding ingredients that could become impacted in the frog's digestive system and cause a blockage (a condition which is often fatal for ADFs). I'd probably just feed the HBH pellets, if your frogs will actually eat them. - frogbreeder

 

ok thanks. I should be home tomorrow so I can observe them better.